Anybody agree that there seriously isnt a drug good enough

[RodJonse]

I found that drug for me. It was called Zolpidem.

And I became tolerant and dependent on it and now I'm off of it and probably will never experience it the way I did before again.

That's how these things are though.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

I found that drug for me. It was called Zolpidem.

And I became tolerant and dependent on it and now I'm off of it and probably will never experience it the way I did before again.

That's how these things are though.

Had like a 6 month love affair with zolpidem, mostly daytime use. No bad WDs aside from some insomnia for me... gotta try the other Z-Drugs.

When I started, I said "fuck benzos and benzo addiction".

 

[RodJonse]

Had like a 6 month love affair with zolpidem, mostly daytime use. No bad WDs aside from some insomnia for me... gotta try the other Z-Drugs.

When I started, I said "fuck benzos and benzo addiction".

No benzo matches up. I mean, valium is okay but that zolpidem rush...INCREDIBLE. Some people even IV it, that's got to be unfathomably amazing. It's just too bad the tolerance comes so fast. And yeah, it's barely a sleeping drug. The hypnotic effects wear off in less than a week. For me it was just a rush of pure euphoria in its highest form, and it used to last several hours.

That time when I was in my zolpidem prime - when it hit me the hardest - I'd take it over anything else. Even hydromorphone, even heroin, anything.

Never tried Zopiclone or whatever it's called, they don't have it here. I know Zaleplon isn't very great, more like a traditional benzo. Zolpidem is truly one of a kind. From what I understand, its closest relative in terms of effects is Muscimol. No wonder it made me such a caring, empathetic person and made me see all my wrong doings and change my ways.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

No benzo matches up. I mean, valium is okay but that zolpidem rush...INCREDIBLE. Some people even IV it, that's got to be unfathomably amazing. It's just too bad the tolerance comes so fast. And yeah, it's barely a sleeping drug. The hypnotic effects wear off in less than a week. For me it was just a rush of pure euphoria in its highest form, and it used to last several hours.

That time when I was in my zolpidem prime - when it hit me the hardest - I'd take it over anything else. Even hydromorphone, even heroin, anything.

Never tried Zopiclone or whatever it's called, they don't have it here. I know Zaleplon isn't very great, more like a traditional benzo. Zolpidem is truly one of a kind. From what I understand, its closest relative in terms of effects is Muscimol. No wonder it made me such a caring, empathetic person and made me see all my wrong doings and change my ways.

Yeah I personally got energy on them. If i took 10-40mgs, pretty much guaranteed no sleep for a few hours. I loved the almost-psychedelic visuals. The totally elimination of any anxiety, which prob gave me energy in itself. Weed and/or opies unleashed pleasant euphoria for me.

I did have tolerance problems too. I haven't taken any, cept here and there, to try and get my tolerance back down..

But I can jump from benzos (with a little tapering) to ambien with almost no problems. It's awesome.

 

[caseface99]

If I could use heroin with no consequences, dependence, withdrawal, tolerance, etc. - Then THAT would be good enough. Since I can't, no drugs for me. Hopefully ever again.

 

[exists]

Weed + gabapentin + pure DXM comes close; those things together produce just about the most sublime high I've experienced. Unfortunately if I take DXM too often certain bad effects begin to emerge... and if I don't take it often enough life becomes boring and the brain zaps start in.

Not about to get into a heroin habit (like I have the hookups anyway ). I'm probably pushing my luck taking oxycodone every 3 days, but thankfully I have a very limited supply of it.

 

[RodJonse]

Yeah I personally got energy on them. If i took 10-40mgs, pretty much guaranteed no sleep for a few hours. I loved the almost-psychedelic visuals. The totally elimination of any anxiety, which prob gave me energy in itself. Weed and/or opies unleashed pleasant euphoria for me.

I did have tolerance problems too. I haven't taken any, cept here and there, to try and get my tolerance back down..

But I can jump from benzos (with a little tapering) to ambien with almost no problems. It's awesome.

I KNOW, RIGHT? TOTALLY not for sleep! It started as a hypnotic for me, turned into just anxiety relief, turned into what could be used as a rave drug (in fact, I'm sure people have).

It was the best time of my life. I made my first album almost all on Zolpidem. It was the perfect drug, the perfect drug, the perfect drug. It gave me this "almost, but not quite" feeling about reality. A feeling I can only describe as "hiding behind the bushes, peering through". You get the anxiety relief from a benzo, you get visuals (that are awesome because you can choose whether to have them or not, if you're moving around, going about your day, you won't see them, it's only when you stop and look at a ceiling fan that the blades begin to stretch out to twice their length), you get a dissociative like effect but one that's not too far you can't communicate with people, you can actually communicate SO well, you get a rush that is amazing and the body high...I can only compare it to opiates. It's like an opiate body high, different, but that's the only comparable thing. It's better though, it's better because YOU are euphoric as fuck, way more so than opiates provided you have only a small tolerance.

And btw, I'm using (pretty much used, at this point) benzos to get off zolpidem. You can jump back and forth because while they're not technically benzos, for all intents and purposes z-drugs are benzos in disguise and cross tolerance is there (just like how cross tolerance with soma is there, even though it's a muscle relaxant). Used valium (which I tolerate and enjoy) for a while, tapered down. Now I'm using soma to get off valium (which feels very much so like valium) and will be tapering down. Hopefully this is the end of dependency. It might be an ouroboros (next step after Soma taper is probably just valerian root for a slight ease and opiates to dull any pain, hold on to the rails and just try and make it through), but if it ends up being one then I don't care. I don't care because I know that by the time I'm done with the soma if I can't get off of it without crazy WD, it'll be back to the zolpidem, and my tolerance will be at mid-level at that point and I'll get to enjoy it a bit again, not as much as before, but at least some. I know it'll just be that 30 minutes of ecstasy and then a headache I have to waste a hydro to get rid of, but it'll still be the Z I know and love.

Now the valium, on the other hand...my tolerance went from about 7.5mg=feeling intoxicated and slightly euphoric to 75mg=same state in less than two months, and from what I hear, benzo tolerance takes AGES to go down, like literally years. Doesn't matter so much to me because while I enjoyed valium (only benzo I really liked by the way), it's not something I seek to try anew. It's nice, but zolpidem is SOOOOOO much better (and with opiates, there's no issue because my tolerance remains low and shall remain low, had to learn the hard way with zolpidem, will not repeat the same mistake with hydro/oxy/whatever.


TL, DR: If I were rich and had enough money to go to a rapid detox center every two years, I'd continue to get my Zolpidem tolerance reset and do it all over again, because it's worth it. It is so worth it.

 

[llbadgerll]

As long as there's at least a few papaver somniferum's growing somewhere on this world, I'll have to disagree with the OPer.

That's fine, i understand completely if you disagree. That was the whole point of my question is because I feel abnormal thinking like this and was just wondering if I was alone, you know?

 

[llbadgerll]

If I could use heroin with no consequences, dependence, withdrawal, tolerance, etc. - Then THAT would be good enough. Since I can't, no drugs for me. Hopefully ever again.

Lol, then yeah. Me too. For instance i would pick meth......smoke clouds 24/7 forever. No consequences or anything........YES