I’ve been very sceptical about
@Ismene2 ’s claims about DS 3.0 acid. While I haven’t doubted his own descriptions of his recent subjective experiences on acid, I did doubt that the experience of DS 3.0 is inevitably different from any other type of acid blotter.
However, I’ve recently had a couple of experiences on blotters I am very confident are DS3.0. These experiences were, without a doubt, the very best LSD experiences I have had -and I’ve dropped acid hundreds of times.
I have probably had DS 3.0 in the past, but I never really paid attention to brand names in acid in the believe it’s all the same shit and it either works or it doesn’t. Although I’m not conceding anything yet, I thought I’d re-post something I sent to a few friends here via DM in reference to this discussion:
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I received 50 tabs of alleged DS3.0 not long ago from an always reliable Australian vendor. They are white-on-white.
With only 5 day’s break for myself in-between I took it separately with two different lady friends and I have to admit it seemed a bit special. But as I mostly trip by myself there is a distinct possibility that the setting of being naked in bed guiding a very desirable lady through her first acid trip would feel special on any acid.
I gave each lady a half tab and took one tab myself the first one and two tabs the second time. We also smoked a fair bit of meth beforehand and both times I had already been awake 48 hours when I dropped the acid.
Long story short - incredible experiences both times. Zero body load, somewhat limited visual changes for me - but that’s common with acid when you are already amped up, wonderful auditory changes, and a euphoric condition that resonated across my whole body for hours.
The really unique part was the emotional content produced with the first lady (whom I had only known less than 24 hours). We were in a pretty dingy room that just lit up with a sense of the cleanest and purest love you could imagine. Not really sexual, although there was much touching of each other’s bodies, more kind of making sex/gender irrelevant and feeling like a higher-order spiritual or soulfful connection between 2 equal human beings. Almost like we were 2 broken parts of the same whole finally brought back together again.
Both ladies reported a very similar experience as well as feeling saying a few days later that they had been changed permanently (in a good way). They also had a more visual experience than I did.
I was surprised that both of them said they felt not a single negative thing during their experiences- not even a bit of anxiety on the comeup The second time when I took 2 tabs vs her half tab I did think I might have overdone it for an hour or so during the comeup. But when I peaked it settled into something really great. I’ve found this to often happen when still a bit tolerant - harder comeups but them a less intense and less visual trip than you would expect from that size dose.
Still; despite all of that I’m still hesitant to agree that DS3.0 (if that is what it was) is a totally different category of acid to what is generally available. Ever since it was invented we’ve known that LSD experiences are highly variable.
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Since I wrote this, I have taken acid again with the first lady described above. This time she wished for a whole tab while I took 3 because it was only a few days since I’d tripped alone at home. I was not hoping for much out of my dose, but the experience for the lady was quite remarkable. It kicked in within 30 minutes and it initially seemed like we were going to have a little dance part for 2. She was energetic and very bubbly right up until maybe the hour mark. Then in a split second everything shifted so radically I still barely believe it. With no discernible change in setting she collapsed onto the bed, curled into a ball, closed her eyes, and began gently sobbing. I didn’t realise at first and thought she was just overwhelmed by the comeup and being still while she peaked. But when I saw she was crying I lay down and put my arms around her and spoke to her very quietly and soothingly to reassure her she was ok and everything was safe - I got no response.
After what seemed like several hours but was really only an hour of this I began to feel panic rising in me as I feared I’d broken her mind by giving her the larger dose. She was still unresponsive. The only thing I could think to do was keep talking to her and reassuring her about a whole bunch of things in her life that I knew made her very anxious or depressed. I had no idea if they were things consuming her mind during the trip but it seemed like the right thing to do. For a while it seemed I was just talking to myself but gradually as I repeated the same reassurances she started nodding her head in what seemed like absolute agreement with what I was telling her. Again this seemed to go on for hours but in real time was not much more than an hour.
Then, in a lightning fast split second shift everything changed again. With tears still pouring she suddenly opened her eyes wide, looked up at me, and started giggling. Her mirth grew and was contagious and we were soon both lying on our backs looking at the ceiling and uncontrollably howling with laughter. This went on for more than two hours in real time. Every time one of us shushed the other we’d stop for no more than a minute with hands on mouth before collapsing in joyful hilarity again.
Rest of the night was just grooving to music.
She fell asleep after about 12 hours total runtime and me after about 15. The next day she said she had no memory of crying or me speaking to her. Rather, she said she had had a fantastic time and looked forward to the next time we could do it together. A few days after that she told me how lighthearted she had been feeling since that night so I told her in more detail about what she seemed to have gone through and also about the potential for LSD to provide very cathartic experiences for people people struggling with the effects of trauma and/ or strongly repressed negative emotions.
I wonder whether it is possible to have such a cathartic experience on LSD yet not remember it. I was pretty sure that she was in a state like ego-death for at least an hour during that early part of the trip that she cannot remember.
