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Any Joe Schmo Psych users?

ChugMajicGrnDragon

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I'm a fairly infrequent psych user and I wonder how many of you trip on a regular basis that lead a 'normal' life, aside from doing psychs. I don't know many hard psych users, but the ones that I do know certainly aren't the 9-5 types or ones that have stable long term relationships. These people are all pretty awesome, but they certainly don't fit into any mold that society readily accepts. I just haven't met a lot of 'ordinary' people who trip balls on the regular. I certainly don't consider myself 'ordinary' or 'normal', but this is for tons of other reasons than my psych usage.

Personally, psychs are my favorite of all drugs, but I've done wayyyy more MDMA and pot because they are so widely available and accepted. Psychs still seem so underground and taboo, at least in every social circle I've encountered so far.

Sooooo

For you 'normal', frequent trippers: what do you do for a living? is your usage something you tell others about? do your significant other and close friends know?

sorry for the poor wording of these questions, I'm kinda trippin out right now haha.
 
i am a full time time student, volunteer, intern, a boyfriend, and I make time to see family. friends of the drug and non-drug using variety are plentiful. I dnt hide much either

i IV psychs (2-4 times/month), ket, cocaine, and opiates too often. amps plugged at least 2 times a week. weed intake is variable. no track marks, always micron, new gear, good product.

poly drug abuser--always a good rotation.
 
I tend to use psychedelics not including cannabis about once every 1.5 weeks. People tell me that they were surprised that I took drugs and that I look very straight edge. I work about 20 hours a week and go to school for 20 hours a week. I make a little more than minimum wadge doing physical labor. I don't tell people about it, unless they are in my small circle of head friends that I don't get to see very often. For my first two years of psychedelic use I went way overboard. I had HPPD for a few months and stopped tripping for six months. Now I've been pretty responsible about frequency of use and doses, it doesn't interfere with my work or school in the slightest.
 
I am currently a student, and actually havent used and psychs in about 6 months due to availability (This will be changing within the next month and a half, i am certain of this beyond any shred of doubt, so i will go back to my normal routine of regular trippage, probably every/every other weekend or so. Not more frequent then that for sure). I am currently unemployed and at a middle ground so to speak, living at my girlfriends aunt and only taking one class at a community college and not even the academic sort of class, but this hiatus for a semester or two was needed. I will be moving to a more permanent residence in early January. However 6 months or so ago i would trip as often as access permitted and it never interfered with my daily life. Rather it improved it, and helped me make impotant decisions to better myself.

I know this isn't exactly what you were looking for, but i figured i would share. I am interested in reading responses from anyone done with college and working full time however as well. I definitely know i don't foresee any issues for myself in the future as long as i maintain the correct set, setting, and reason for tripping.


above posts remind me, i have a girlfriend, who used drugs in the same frequency as myself. Both been sober for the past couple months as we were going overboard with less useful substances, but we both love tripping, and are relatively stable in almost a 2 year relationship. I have no fear in telling most people about my use of psychedelics and how much they have improved my life, depending on the person and the situation of course. I am actually planning on talking to my dad about it while i am back in Jersey for thanksgiving.

Post above me, bluelightdotcom, i also developed HPPD, however mostly from going WAY WAY WAYYYYYYYY overboard with cannabis, it may have been helped along by one or 2 small irresponsible binges on LSD that i am not proud of, but at the same time learned a lot during. I got to the point where i would have acid like visuals all day every day from smoking cannabis, since i was totally ripped out of my skull 24/7, eventually i stopped but it was too late HPPD had set in. My question is how much better did you get? Did it fully go away? I have been sober for just over 60 days, and i don't think it has improved at all. Depending on my surroundings and the amount of light in the room i notice it pretty much daily. I never focus on it because that makes it worse, but especially if i am inside its almost always there.
 
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When acid is in season, I'll trip once every 2-3 weeks. Left to my own devices, I'll smoke about a quarter of pot in roughly the same time; more when there's company.

I'm a computer programmer by day, so I keep fairly regular hours. Fortunately it's an industry where eccentric people are more accepted, so I can "let the crazy hang out" more than I could elsewhere. I suspect that if I tried, I could appear almost normal - but I've never found the motivation to.

Of my close friends, about half are Trippers.
 
I recently responded to a similar topic -- the "I'm weird, are you too?" thread -- and so I make that same response here because a lot of it addresses your question:

"I like to believe I'm "unusually sane" in a moderately-sane to insane social mileau, and that's why I'm called "weird," and often alienate others. I've no doubt many others here feel similarly about themselves. You'd probably like the "Psychedelics and Social Alienation" thread, Depressica.

I agree with Rodger's explication of "weird" but I'll also add that I think in practice "weird" often has further negative connotations. Not even just meaning wayward or lacking discipline, but contrary to the norm or what's expected in a way that's unjustified or merely attention seeking. It's used more than words thought to be its synonyms to dismiss things as unworthy of attention.

Is the following reminiscent of the life of a "weird" person?: I'm doing well in grad school, I've had healthy long term romantic relationships with "normals," including one I'm still in, I have no serious problems with my family or friends, I've never been arrested, have not been in a fight that wasn't self-defense since freshman year of high school, I've never suffered an unexpected depression, I have a car and apartment, have never not been able to make a payment on anything, I've never been in an accident, have worked out regularly since age 15, and I've been using drugs (everything short of heroin) whenever I please addiction free without my use negatively impacting anyone's life but my own (and those personal consequences have been very short-lived) for 14 years. My point?: I don't know what all this means, but despite me being labeled with the term, I'm not "weird". General behavior that's arbitrarily bizarre or lacking in discipline doesn't usually work out so ... competently. "Unusual," though vague, is the far preferable term for its relative neutrality (most people will feel more comfortable going along with, or be more open to investigating, something termed "unusual" than something termed "weird").

More than being called it thoughtlessly, though, I resent how generally applicable "weird" is -- how often it crops up in conversation without anyone asking for further qualification. It makes it so easy to uncritically dismiss valid challenges to "normal" ways of thinking, feeling, and behaving with a single conformity encouraging word. It makes it easy not to think. Next time you hear someone use it to dismiss something worth consideration spit right into their mouths, way into the back of their throats and down their lungs where the insidious term came from. Then while they gag and vomit inform them, "Now THAT was weird!"
 
Thanks for the replies everybody

I'm a graduate student and I wait tables/bartend to pay the rent and maintain a somewhat comfortable lifestyle. I've been in mostly stable relationship for the last 8 months, but my significant other doesn't know that I trip every few months or so when I have a night to myself. My family knows that I partied really hard when I was younger, but they would be surprised to find out that I trip for spiritual/introspective purposes.

I guess I like tripping by myself better than with anyone else. It can be fun to be around people, but I either want to be outside in nature, at home with some chill music.

When i finish my MA, I plan on teaching and writing. For those of you that are students, do you plan on continuing your trip habits when you finish and enter the 'real world'?
 
well...
i keep up with a demanding work with hectic shedule (think 40h+/week, sometimes at night) that requires attention and responsability, have only had stable relationships in the past years (all over 1y long) and currently involved, have a normal amount of friends, sane faimly life, noone knows i sometimes use rc's.
i love tripping, love md** type rcs for the odd party. i can still remember every mushroom trip i took...
 
I have a very demanding job, am in a long term relationship, and am a polydrug [ab]user.
Yes, I tell others of my use, but only where it is unlikely to badly effect the running of my life. My family know in some detail.
 
I was dosing at least once a week and every now and again for a week straight. Constantly smoking marijuana and eating hash.

I had worked my as off for 3 months at a seasonal job which gave me enough money to do what i pleased without having to work. All i wanted to do for 4 months+ was expand my mind and meet as many people as i could. I had no intention on working until my money had dried up. I had enough close friends to last a life time. I was hitting shows at least once a week and doing 2-3 day runs on the regular basis. I guess you could say i feel victim to the scene.

After getting arrested comming out of a festival with a half oz of molly, gram of DMT, quarter of hash, and a qp of herbals reality set in that i have to live a somewhat normal lifestyle in order to get my in life. Theres a balance in between the fantasy land and the real world.

Now i hold 2 jobs with ease making decent money, and plan on going to school for cullinary arts. I havent dosed in almost 3 months now due to long lasting shatterd ego. I lost my ability to express what i wanted to express. I had severe scatter brain syndrome ( not being able to put my feelings/thoughts into words) and everytime someone would talk i would think they were talking about me, sometimes negative, sometimes positive. I guess you could say i came down with a slight bit of drug psychosis.

Mind you it was basically 2 years of non stop eating as much psychedelics as i could get my hands on, smoking weed all day non stop, rolling at almost every show. All my drug use had positive effects on my personality, the way i viewed life. Hence the reason why i couldnt see that too much of a good thing can turn negative.
 
My wife and I are definitely "Schmos".

"It (Joe Schmo) is used to identify the typical, everyday person who does not have any special status, frequently in contrast to some group."

Yep.
 
At this point in my life I do trip and roll regularly. My family and the majority of my friends do not know; my life looks "normal" on the outside. It's actually quite good. At times I can be a bit on the odd side, but that's not something I can blame on drug use :)
 
Hmm, I have no idea what would be considered normal. But I've never had a "normal" life, was expelled from 5 different schools, lots of legal issues, drug-using family, interest in occult/drugs, extreme music, tattoo's, blah blah. Its only now that I've started working 9-5 (in a small personal finance group) and I actually quite like it.

I've always been drawn to the extreme sides of any spectrum, which has caused some isolation, but my own life has been very rewarding if not very painful at times.

I wouldn't say that my own lack of normality (so to speak) has been a result of psychedelics; psychedelics were a natural progression from other things I practised.

Lol: I asked Miss Willow (who is sitting next to me watching TV) if I'm weird and she said YES. :D
 
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