Any experiences with Lowryder / other C. ruderalis strains?

[Jamshyd]

Bet you guys didn't expect to see me here .

The other day I was musing with a friend about Permaculture. He has a couple of plants (Blue Berry I believe) growing wild on his (gigantic) property that he dedicated to permaculture, but is fully aware that they are dependent on his care, given the harsh weather of Central Alberta..

He was unaware of the existence of C. ruderalis, and I suggested he tries it as a cultivar to incorporate into his permaculture experiment.

So although the intent itself is to produce a self-sustaining population of cannabis plants that he may later cross-breed with something else, my curiosity has been raised: I am wondering just what are the effects of this strain? I see many people saying that it is low yield/low potency, but not much description of the effects of what little yield there is.

 

[Help?!?!]

As far as i've heard(have yet to smoke lowryder as far as I know) Lowryder just gives off low yields and beaster esque buds. Its just its genetics. While it can't produce a pound of heads itself it can however taking a fucking beating and fair amount of abuse comparable to other strains. I think thats the strains best quality.

 

[w01fg4ng]

I've actually never tried a pure C. ruderalis (I hear they barely get you stoned though), but I have tried a one of the dominant C ruderalis crosses, Lowryder. I found Lowryder to be a very pleasant high with some creeper qualities to it. The high/effects are much closer to that of an indica strain rather than a sativa. So, it was more sedating, than energetic.

 

[Sega420]

Lowryder # 2 from Joint Doctor seeds.
the perfect kind of high. not too strong to the point where the mind is racing, not too weak though.
one bong and thats you where you need to be. very smooth to smoke,
lovely citrusy soft taste with mild hashy undertones.
its a creeper high, in that you can feel the high creeping on you, starting in the centre of your skull
and creeping to the front and over your face like a velvet curtain coming down.

very very nice.
my mate who grew it had 2 of them in a hydro bucket setup under 600w. kept them going for far longer than 60 days, and got about 5 ounces alltogether.
DRY ounces that is. the plants were about 2 metres tall.

so, when grown PROPERLY, a strain really does show its true potential.

 

[hazed420]

Lowryder # 2 from Joint Doctor seeds.
the perfect kind of high. not too strong to the point where the mind is racing, not too weak though.
one bong and thats you where you need to be. very smooth to smoke,
lovely citrusy soft taste with mild hashy undertones.
its a creeper high, in that you can feel the high creeping on you, starting in the centre of your skull
and creeping to the front and over your face like a velvet curtain coming down.

very very nice.
my mate who grew it had 2 of them in a hydro bucket setup under 600w. kept them going for far longer than 60 days, and got about 5 ounces alltogether.
DRY ounces that is. the plants were about 2 metres tall.

so, when grown PROPERLY, a strain really does show its true potential.

Pics or i sell patrick swayze your microwave

 

[Jamshyd]

Wow, you guys are awesome! Please keep the reports comin'

Sega: you seem to definitely know your stuff when it comes to grass

I'm a n00b... can you guys translate for me:

- Beaster
- Creaper High

?

 

[Sega420]

Pics or i sell patrick swayze your microwave

shush you, newbie :D
im not building a time machine just to go back then to snap photos of my friends grow.
im sure he wouldn't appreciate me asking to take pics of it either.

Sega: you seem to definitely know your stuff when it comes to grass

I'm a n00b... can you guys translate for me:

- Beaster
- Creeper High?

thank you my good man.
im not being up myself, but yes, i do know my stuff.
i take my ganja seriously. ive been smoking for about 6 years,
and in that time ive studied endlessly and crammed my head full of all sorts of ganja knowledge.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

i can never understand people who will put something into their body and not even bother to learn the basics of the drug they are consuming.
it happens more than you'd like to think...


Beasters or Beesters is the Canadian equivalent of Brickweed.
ie the BC bud that gets exported to the USA. they keep the REAL good stuff in the homeland
BC = bee see. beesters. :D
its basically "the lows of the highs" ie low end "headies" or high end "mids".

NSFW:

and a "Creeper" high is when the high creeps up on you very slowly at first,
as in my velvet-curtain description

 

[Jamshyd]

^ Haha, very interesting. I assume that a lot of stuff we get here (Ontario) is beasters. Too bad most people here have no clue what strain they're selling/smoking . It is always a total surprise (not always a good thing - I never use bongs because of those incidences where it happens to be a strong indica... ugh).

I don't smoke often but I do know what you mean with the velvet curtain. I used to refer to it as "oily face" but velvet curtain is a better idea!

I look forward to trying Lowryder now. Hopefully it'll work out well with my friend.

 

[subopm420]

Dreamcast is right, as usual, and I have always wondered the same thing? If you don't want to be classified as a stupid stoner you gotta do your homework.

Just like to clarify though, beasters may be the Canadian equivalent of mexibrick but it is miles better. It's low end dank grown mostly in privately run grow ops, historically in canada's British Columbia. Usually one of the high yield strains such as PPP.

 

[thujone]

to my knowledge the only ruderalis trait passed on in the kind of plants you'd smoke is the autoflowering. it serves a commercial function, allowing the plants to mature earlier. genuine ruderalis does grow wild in eastern europe and if you've ever wondered why herb is called weed then ruderalis is the answer to that lol. i guess if your friend doesn't want to smoke it then he could give it a shot but it's not going to add anything positive to the permaculture.

permaculture is not about planting stuff that needs no care. permaculture is consciously planting in a fashion that allows the native environment to take care of the plant's needs. a plant needs light, a plant needs water, a plant needs nutrients. ideally, the light comes from the sun, the water comes from the sky, and the nutrients come from animal shit and compost.

even so, no system is perfect. as we know from nature, most land in the wild is covered by trees, grass, moss, and the ocassional fruit-bearing plant. even if your friend lived off 100 acres he still wouldn't be able to live off only what he forages. good cannabis that doesn't require maintenance is a pipe dream in our part of the world. all you end up with is ineffectual weed that's no satisfaction to smoke. best thing your friend could do is plan out where he plants what to take full advantage of the resources available. here is a very good source on figuring out where to place which plants on the property by the soil's pH. such things are really important to permaculture.

 

[Jamshyd]

^ Oh I understand (re: permaculture). Obviously, he knows a lot more about the subject than I do (he does consulting work with it). The point really is not plants that don't require maintenance, but rather plants that can survive and reproduce outdoors in Central Alberta. Obviously, he does smoke it, but we were wondering if lowered potency is worthy of a compromise for a plant that can survive in that climate.

Thanks for the link, btw.

One thing I found interesting is that in the summer, there is a very noticeable difference in day/night duration, with extremely short nights. IIRC, reading about Lowryder on the net, 20/4 light cycles are the most recommended for it. The days there in June were around 19/5.

One more question: is my information correct that Lowryder is a cross of Northern Lights and wild ruderalis?