Any experience with amphetamine psychosis?

[kcfaerydust]

Hard to say how much of amphetamine psychosis is due to sleep deprivation... probably depends on the particular case. I know for a fact (cuz it happened to me) that extreme sleep deprivation alone can cause a certain type of psychosis -- in my case I was absolutely sure I'd die if I fell asleep, which of course made the problem about a thousand times worse.

that happens to me. usually i go on a bender and i push myself till im so tweaked and sleep deprived that i get scared to come down. i have pushed myself into crazy states. i would black out my window, lock my door and tiptoe around with the tv on low, afraid to make noise. i was afraid to leave my room to pee, let alone go to the kitchen for water. i would get super upset, angry, depressed and paranoid. i truly believed i was dying trying to sleep. im already bipolar and sometimes feel like im gonna die because of the way my meds feel sometimes. i have a suicide history too. but the craziness doesnt stop me from getting so ampped that i freak. i did end up in the hospital twice and they never gave me anything to calm down. i would take my seroquel to try to knock me out but it would make me dizzy and immobile but still freaking out. i know people have warned about introducing benzos and i get thier points. however, xanax has helped with the comedown, anxiety and panic.

 

[drug_wench]

i wud say if u cant handle amphetamines without using benzos frequently for comedowns, address the amphetamine problem
until uve bn addicted to benzos u cant know the full horror of wat its like
id rather go back to full-on meth addiction than b where i am now.....weaning 1mg/fortnight off valium and still getting withdrawals

on the subject of being scared to sleep due to amphetamines, i was scared to sleep often but it was mainly cos i knew as soon as i let myself come down id get anxious and paranoid then eventually psychotic
hence why, in the end, i just never let myself come down - i slept on meth
and if i woke during the night i had another point or 2 to put me back to sleep
amphetamine addiction is pure insanity

 

[Rectify]

Please don't tell me you typed that entire monograph.

But to answer the question, the trick in preventing amphetamine psychosis is to get the user to stop using speed. If you can do that, the rest is a cinch.

 

[3dmusic]

Please don't tell me you typed that entire monograph.

But to answer the question, the trick in preventing amphetamine psychosis is to get the user to stop using speed. If you can do that, the rest is a cinch.

I would say, get the user to sleep and eat, to stop the current psychosis in it's tracks. (Not always easy)
Stopping the habit of speed, obviusly prevents future psycosis from speed use.

 

[Mitchy=)]

Just read all the replies,
The only way to really get him out of it is to let him sleep it off, trying to play the guilt card usually works, ive had girlfriends of mine convince me of many things while high (usualy during some heavy nights of abuse where they would look really concerned and then they would pull me aside and tell me to slow down a bit)

There isnt any easy way to approach someone whos tweaking. If you feel your in any danger, get out of there for a few days and contact him via msg's, i find thats the best way to contact people who are in an unsafe state of mind...
Let me know how it goes please. and good luck to him

 

[timothy32987]

ahhhh yea, one time i did 300mg of adderall in two nights, with purple drink....I saw mexicans in my back yard with knifes and bats..I called the cops but they said there wasnt a soul around....it happened again and the police came and again said no one was there. I remember them saying if we come back, ur coming with us......I thought there was a sniper onthe lawn, so i ran across the street to a neighbors house, and called my parents....lol i was fucked up inthe head

 

[blahman8000]

I've gone crazy on amphetamine before. It's really not something you can put into words. Of course, it got worse and more frequent as I started using more. Thought I was dying, ended up in the hospital one time. Lucky they didn't put me in the psych ward. One time I was so messed up and deprived of sleep/food that I was just screaming and crying. For like a half hour I was just screaming out the phrase "I'M SORRY" over and over again, crying my eyes out. It was actually fairly therapeutic ... but overall, very unpleasant.

I'd suggest to ANYONE that is abusing meth/amphetamine to PLEASE STOP. Over time, it will seriously fuck you up worse than you can possibly imagine. Of all the substances that I've gotten hung up on, speed was the worst. I did and said things that I'll never be able to undo or take back. I won't even touch any uppers ever again. Even just caffeine makes me feel too fucked up now.

 

[StrungOutQc]

Here is how I explain how a psychosis work..

Now I think that everyone who stupiddly or somehow gets trapped having taken some any dosage of stimulant that makes them unable to get some sleep.. Then, to avoid feeling too sleepy or whatever you told yourself redosing again will help you, can faLL into the vicious circle of taking stimulants couple days in a row with no or barely none food and sleep can be victim of this.
I explain it, from my experience, getting so tired and no proper energy and sleep for your brain and getting I guess toxic dosages of stimulants in the brain, you get a weird thought, something strange ,even something you can still still figure out it's almost impossible and lacks sense.. You get thoughts like that.. Id really like to know why you start getting weird,stupid and lacking senses ideas.. then your brain is tired and weak, it's like the thought you had earlier,you still think is pretty stupid has slept long enough in your memory, you start to wonder that's weird... but it's still here.. Then you begin thinking it could be a memory. Then decide to label that thought has probably true, why would I think about such a thing so stupid or almost impossible again. then.. Then is the word: CONFUSION. that was confusion of thoughts and memories. You can now play your new mind-trick with every of the senses.. touching,memory,vision, smell. A part of your mind is playing a spy game to sabotage reality.. You think there s something weird going on.. you try hard to figure it out..But that spy is a good spy.. You just know there might be something really weird of having such an idea.. But sooner or later you tell yourself it might be real.. Would not think about such strange things again.. Real.. Unreal. And then when begin thinking more and morwe about the same fucking dumb illusion you re now considering them as being absolute truths. They can become memories.. wondering if you re dreaming awake.. Did what I'm thinking now really happened.. For example, it's almost impossible that a real doctor, wemt in your apartment,... that isn't true I think, There's no doctor here.. Well I was't in other rooms then here.. That may be a real memory.. Then once you began accepting an illusion is getting more amd more possible.. they could mostly be more odds sorting that to be real than unreal. You re then accepting or believing almost for sure that fucked up ideA be rea; for sure. You aways question your thoughts but these ideas are so weird why wwould yoy think about it. Everything has more odds to be real then.. From now on, illusions are gettting so much more odds to be possible.. mm you saythat must be true so little chances it be an illusiin.. thats true then.. therefore it exists.. who or what would loose his time making me me think about sucg weird things.. ohh everything has more odds of being real. then that illusion you said now odds are it's true. It exists in all your senses.. The spy fucking score big time. This disguised-truth is having his odds being true, you accept it. Your senses can now emulate perfectly that disguised thruth. From now on very low chances my senses would tell me lies. So now the spy can make a fucking history of lies, plentty of false weird ideas concerning what you caN NOW see, feel as a part of your world,,. The only true ally is the only one asking and giving a small odd chance thaT every thouht will no longer be 100% true. He asks and he knows.. Something is wrong or ar least strange..

For my part, was ritalin for many days.. I had an infection that hurted real bad. So I started to think there 2 boxes in my appartement shooting viruses every minute. It ache real bad every minute..(I believed it so much, I felt pain every minute) Then I thought or day dreamed that doctors came in my place to say i was sick. That I couldn't go outside because I had a tube in my back. I thought 4 other sick were in my place in my room. I was always questionniong it it was real or not.. Saw my brother, I cried to him I was really sick that it was the fault of these fucking boxes.. I raged about how stupid it was..

I have written a novel on how psychosis work.. fucked up story.

 

[all_or_nothing]

Dexamphetamine addict

I still wonder in the theory of prescribing dexies to someone with ADHD with a known history for long term substance abuse, with a preference for speed.

Every 24 days i am given 300 tablets of pure low dose speed to combat my adhd.
Are the docs that naive that they won't be abused...

Don't get me wrong, I used almost everything for over a decade, with a preference for speed, weed and booze.

I no longer consume those illicit substances and have been sober for 22 months but i always end up having more than prescribed.

My routine is from thurs till sun (4 nights) I stay awake and research on computer/clean whatever....and then crash and sleep for almost two days straight.

Having a bender over four nights is something i do maybe once every 3 weeks, otherwise it I am consistently awake two days straight every week.

Just before I crash out, recently i have been hearing things, particularly when having a shower. Kind of funny or not but the song that I last heard clearly was 'give me head'. What is that shit about????

I am not proud of this behaviour but no matter how hard i try I believe I am going to be a forever addict...

 

[C_Tripper]

For my incidences of "psychosis" after a long methamphetamine binge, I've found it's simple enough to fix: knock myself out for a good 12-24 hours or so.

If you don't have any benzodiazpenes on hand, then in my experience sedative antihistamines will definitely do the job (albeit a little more... bluntly). Benadryl, Polarimine, anything like that.

 

[Gummybearkatie]

These threads let me know that I am not alone. I was homeless and staying in a park with some others and we had been smoking and shooting speed for at least 3 days, no sleep, no food. I've gone longer, but the stress of my situation helped make me crack. I remember bits and pieces:

I thought everyone on the street was part of a hidden camera gameshow filming me. I begged people to make it stop and to leave me alone, and I tried to lose the game on purpose by smoking in a tunnel entrance. I almost keyed someone's car, so sure that it would stop the cameras. I looked for the prize in bike locks and I thought I ran out of time and finally lost. My delusion changed to thinking the FBI was following me and had agents everywhere trying to put drugs in my bag because they knew I had used all of mine. I thought I was going to prison!

When that one ended, I walked miles until I was in a different part of town. Everything I saw had specific meaning to me. License plates, the number of trees, buses that passed by. I jumped in front of a certain number bus thinking it was my destiny. I just remember running away after that.

It turned dark by this time, and I started to think if I stood in specific places, I would begin my next life. I thought everyone around me was a prior version of myself. I kept repeating "looks like me, but isn't me" as my mantra, over and over. I had it backwards though, they didn't look like me, but were me!

I thought a man was pointing a gun at me, I thought killers were going to jump out from each bush at me. I kept walking. I took apart my phone and threw the pieces in a drain because I didn't want my friends to get in trouble if I got caught.

I begged a group of people that I thought were a comedy group to turn back time to the previous morning. I called 911 twice because I thought children were being kidnapped. I must have scared that poor man with his two children

Eventually I am up against the hood of a police car shouting "oh god he's going to kill me" and asking the cops if they had 6 fingers. I went to the hospital and after they cut off my favorite sweater, I don't remember anything until a detox facility. I took the elevator and ran out after asking if they would chase me and they said no. But they did call the cops and I had to go back.

Now those 2 or 3 or 4 days are all a big blur to me... I'd have to look at my medical records to see when it happened and how long it lasted.

This psychosis was not fun! It was full of delusions where I could have hurt myself or gotten in legal trouble. I remember just being so scared and truly believed everyone was trying to hurt me.

 

[Gummybearkatie]

Here's a very very recent one. My friend stayed here the last two nights (maybe it was more, I've lost track of time). He packed his bag and left in another friend's car. Not five minutes later he was back, slamming my door, yelling at me, tearing up my house. Screaming at the top of his lungs about $120 he insists he had.

We all spent that together these last few days. I tried my best to explain that too him and showed him the empty bags, rigs etc but he was flailing hardcore. He slammed my front door saying he'll be back. He's going to check at another woman's house because she was here last night. This is making me freak out too, peeking out my window and all. I'm seeing and hearing things, I just want to go to bed if he stays gone.

We even planned to all eat and sleep and rest today. A little bit too late...

 

[swmo]

I'm a former iv gacker that normally went on 10 day to 2 week runs. I have to disagree that insomnia itself is to blame for amphetamine psychosis. Sure, going sleepless will cause a psychosis of sorts but it's different in experience.
I think several factors combined are what make amp psychosis different.
1. the actual chemical makeup of the speed...shortcuts make a difference in quality.
2. the setting: It helps to be around people you really trust. Also dim lights make for more shadows
3. nutrition/water intake during the run...the wetter the better
4. emotional state when ingestion occurred. If I felt guilty about what I'd done to get the dope when I slammed it, chances were I'd get terrified of Karma catching up to me. a clear conscience means a lot.
5. if you play videos for a week or have sex or masturbate for most of the run, chances are you won't get quite as wound up as if you're engaging in illegal activities while on the run to get more dope.
6. the longer the run, the longer and more terrifying the psychosis can be.

Insomnia alone will play tricks on your head, no doubt. The list above is by no means complete or scientific finding (as far as I know). It's these things among others, combined with insomnia, that make amphetamine psychosis so damned terrifying. Imagine going through it in an inner city jail....omg. Never again for this white boy!

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

oh man. speed can do some crazzzzy things to you. i was having full blown conversations with people and doing shit with them and stuff, only to find out the next day that it was all in my head. my parents were "plotting" things against me, and i was waaaay derealized, so everything looked like a cartoon all the time, and everyone was separated from me via this weird curtain cloth thing, so it was like i was all alone all the time.

this one time i was walking to the store while my bf was coping so i was all by myself. it was this horrible snow storm and as im walking it was like i was just walking up hill the whole time going no where. like for hours it felt like. and it just kept snowing and snowing. i though i got lost somehow and couldnt find my way back, and half the time i forgot where i was going..when really the store is only a 10 minute walk from our house. it took me 45 minutes there and back. >.<

this other time my bfs best friend and other best friend did a three day binge after doing a benzo binge, and the one stole 20 bucks from my bfs dad. couldnt remember doing it, said he got it from the coin star in stop and shop - when the 20 was all written on and signed - and then convinced our other friend that thats where he got it. they were also convinced this guys girlfriend was outside stalking them and spying on them. then they proceed to discard the 20 at cvs. we got it back but it pretty much destroyed the friendship. im suure there was more but i was pretty fucked up and i cant really remember all the details..haha

basically psychosis can do some shitty things to you. and the only way to stop it is to stop the amp.

 

[Bojangles69]

I had it for the last 6 months of my use, quit, had it for 3 years afterwards, then continued to have residual paranoia/anxiety/and mild delusions for another 5 years.

Methamphetamine psychosis I imagine being pretty close to schizophrenia, and it was purely and simply a nightmare. To any outsider who has never experienced it, its just damn near impossible to ever really imagine what it feels like. But that psychosis is the whole reason I have been able to stay clean from speed for now 10 years. I will NEVER go back and maybe in a weird way I have the psychosis to thank.
Sometimes I almost wish opiates did that but instead they leave you somewhat sane and just wanting to kill yourself everyday... which doesn't ever seem like enough to create an aversion disorder like I have with speed. But for anyone suffering from that psychosis I want to hug you, I can't possibly explain how difficult a time that was for me in my life. I think I'd rather go fight the war in iraq or be imprisoned again... or even have my dick cut off. Its just something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and thats the honest truth. Far worse than being dead imo, just impossible to describe how low a point that was in my life.

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

yeah. and it also all depends on which upper your using. meth vs amphetamines. and at what dose and for how long as to when the psychosis or IF the psychosis will go away. im not saying it will always be as bad as it was while using, but there could be permanent aspects to it.

and i agree, psychosis is just ridiculous and extremely cruel. at least with dope there is the terrible w/d once you stop using to hopefully direct you away from going back. the thing i wish had terrible consciences from abusing like psychosis or w/d would be coke.

 

[Bojangles69]

Yeh I was making methamphetamines so I used a lot everyday. I mean somedays I'd go through 6gms, other days I'd only do 1-2. But what I did notice is smoking meth seems to really accellerate the shit out of it. For a while I was just snorting it, but when I got heavy into smoking meth was when I started noticing the hallucinations, and I just kept going and going and going till the damage was already done.
Its rough, I mean there was nothing drs were really able to do but drug me into a zombie state, and its sad that I actually felt relief in the form of being a near vegetable. With that psychosis my brain was able to convince me of whatever it wanted to, and I sure as hell wasn't behind the wheel anymore. I was there to a small degree, but it took nearly 8 years to realize how little I was actually there. I think at the time I thought I was so out of my mind I naturally couldn't understand how severe the changes were, I mean talking to things that aren't there and seeing hallucinations everyday I suppose that would be normal to not understand you're out of your fucking mind.
Like I said anyone going through that shit (even a minor case) I consider you like family thats how much empathy I have for you. Just to know other people are going through that shit humbles me like nothing else in this world.

 

[bagochina]

That is one drug I am glad hasn't been prevalent in my area. My old doctor though told me I had ADHD, and that was the cause of my drug abuse, ha. Ok. On top of the opiates, benzos, sleepers, and vitamins that she was scripting me for yyyears. Than all of a sudden I have ADHD, speed ok sure but only IR. I got up into 4 x 30mg IR daily. I was just so fuct up, I was taking 100mg daily for a good 2 years. I dont know what I was thinking, I really wasn't just speeding and telling myself I was good because I wasnt shooting dope. Lost one of the best girlfriends ever in that disaster speed induced psychosis that had me completely convinced I was crazy. Used to love to crush 3 of those 30's up in a pill crusher and load it into a oral syringe and plunge it up my nose, shuddder, ugh. Still miss being motivated sometimes though.

peace.
seedless

 

[godlovesugly]

in my experience [with meth] sometimes mixing in other drugs - such as benzos - can actually make things WORSE.

 

[KamMoye]

These threads let me know that I am not alone. I was homeless and staying in a park with some others and we had been smoking and shooting speed for at least 3 days, no sleep, no food. I've gone longer, but the stress of my situation helped make me crack. I remember bits and pieces:

I thought everyone on the street was part of a hidden camera gameshow filming me. I begged people to make it stop and to leave me alone, and I tried to lose the game on purpose by smoking in a tunnel entrance. I almost keyed someone's car, so sure that it would stop the cameras. I looked for the prize in bike locks and I thought I ran out of time and finally lost. My delusion changed to thinking the FBI was following me and had agents everywhere trying to put drugs in my bag because they knew I had used all of mine. I thought I was going to prison!

When that one ended, I walked miles until I was in a different part of town. Everything I saw had specific meaning to me. License plates, the number of trees, buses that passed by. I jumped in front of a certain number bus thinking it was my destiny. I just remember running away after that.

It turned dark by this time, and I started to think if I stood in specific places, I would begin my next life. I thought everyone around me was a prior version of myself. I kept repeating "looks like me, but isn't me" as my mantra, over and over. I had it backwards though, they didn't look like me, but were me!

I thought a man was pointing a gun at me, I thought killers were going to jump out from each bush at me. I kept walking. I took apart my phone and threw the pieces in a drain because I didn't want my friends to get in trouble if I got caught.

I begged a group of people that I thought were a comedy group to turn back time to the previous morning. I called 911 twice because I thought children were being kidnapped. I must have scared that poor man with his two children

Eventually I am up against the hood of a police car shouting "oh god he's going to kill me" and asking the cops if they had 6 fingers. I went to the hospital and after they cut off my favorite sweater, I don't remember anything until a detox facility. I took the elevator and ran out after asking if they would chase me and they said no. But they did call the cops and I had to go back.

Now those 2 or 3 or 4 days are all a big blur to me... I'd have to look at my medical records to see when it happened and how long it lasted.

This psychosis was not fun! It was full of delusions where I could have hurt myself or gotten in legal trouble. I remember just being so scared and truly believed everyone was trying to hurt me.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

I once had psychosis from taking too much DXM and it was ridiculous. It's funny because I can relate.