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any advice on what could be making me feel tired all the time?

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Anon54

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heres all the drugs I usually take. this doesnt include the ones I occasionally take. im looking for opinions of anyone who takes any of the same drugs that i do & weather it made them tired.

5mg zyprexa (olanzepine) every night.
cwe 400mg most days, sometimes twice a day.
asthma medication symbicort 1 puff every few days.
Nicotine gum 4mg about 8 pieces. some days i dont take any
3-4 cups of coffee.
about 100mg of valium or 200mg temazepam every week or 2. Probably not relevent cuz i dont use it enough.
i dont use oxy enough to be really included.

im thinking its most probably the zyprexa but its a very low dose.
it may also be the codeine especially when i take 2 doses in a day.
it may also be the crash after drinking the coffee.
I dont think its the benzos cuz i barely even feel them when i take them. they certainly dont make me tired. if anything they give me more energy. but im so sure about the effect like when valium runs out after 100 hrs.
 
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Anon54 said:
im thinking its most probably the zyprexa but its a very low dose.
it may also be the codeine especially when i take 2 doses in a day.
it may also be the crash after drinking the coffee.
I dont think its the benzos cuz i barely even feel them when i take them. they certainly dont make me tired. if anything they give me more energy. but im so sure about the effect like when valium runs out after 100 hrs.
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You answered your own question. I would guess that the Zyprexa and caffeine crash are the main culprits, given your tolerance for benzos.

Caffeine has a brutal burnout effect, you're better off using Ephedrine, imo. It has the same kind of PNS stimulation, without messing with adenosine receptors. Adenosine is naturally released when it's time for bed, and caffeine is an adenosine antagonist. Every drug comes with a rebound effect, so when you crash from the caffeine, there's an adenosine surge, making your brain think that it's late at night and time for bed.
 
^ I would agree with this. It is likely multi-factorial. It could be unrelated to drugs too - tiredness is a very non-specific symptom..

Have you tried things like increasing your exercise and looking at your diet?
 
As effie suggested - diet and exercise is #1 for this. Even doing 5 push-ups a day is enough to keep the system working nicely. My body HATES me if I'm inactive...
 
Anon54 said:
heres all the drugs I usually take. this doesnt include the ones I occasionally take. im looking for opinions of anyone who takes any of the same drugs that i do & weather it made them tired.

5mg zyprexa (olanzepine) every night.
cwe 400mg most days, sometimes twice a day.
asthma medication symbicort 1 puff every few days.
Nicotine gum 4mg about 8 pieces. some days i dont take any
3-4 cups of coffee.
about 100mg of valium or 200mg temazepam every week or 2. Probably not relevent cuz i dont use it enough.
i dont use oxy enough to be really included.

im thinking its most probably the zyprexa but its a very low dose.
it may also be the codeine especially when i take 2 doses in a day.
it may also be the crash after drinking the coffee.
I dont think its the benzos cuz i barely even feel them when i take them. they certainly dont make me tired. if anything they give me more energy. but im so sure about the effect like when valium runs out after 100 hrs.
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I was taking benzo's, coffee and opiates too and then I got diagnosed with ADD and when that was treated I no longer need benzo's or opiates to calm me down. My ADD untreated without benzo's and opiates made me tired, all the time, it was horrible.

Are you sure you don't have any underlying problem?
 
^^im trying to work out if theres an underlying problem or if other ppl get tired from the drugs ive mentioned that i take regularly
i dont take benzos every day i shouldnt have mentioned that one. i only take once a week but i thought of valiums long HL.

im wondering if anyone else who does cwe once or twice a day gets tired.
now 5mg of zyprexa is a small dose. some poor ppl get put on 20mg but it has a HL of over 30 hrs so it could be making me tired
i dont think nicotine gum would make me tired. but smoking did.
asthma puffers have fatigue listed as a side effect on the internet but probably not as im on a low dose & dont use every day as some ppl take 4 puffs each day.
*just drank 400mg of codeine* well i instantly feel better. now time to drink a few cups of coffee. at least i have an apple for breakfest & not JUST coffee. but im guessing most of the planet earth are addicted to caffeine some-what but 4 cups if enough that's about 400mg. the recommended dose is 250mg-300mg.
its most likely the zyprexa i think folowed but the codeine followed by the caffeine. I am concerned though as i have to sometimes have several naps a day :(
I cantr get a job either. being tired all the time makes me depressed too. ive been diagnosed with depression. But ive always leaned towards the beleif that something is causing it & its not simply an imbalance i cant do anything about without meds
please if theres anyone out there who has tried zyprexa did it make them tired during the day, (obviously it made u tired when u took it) but the all the next day
 
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An apple for breakfast? Really?

Try eating some real food for breakfast, like some whole grains (40g), some protein (30-40g), and some good fats (10-20g).

Eating a good meal like this every 4 hours will give you more energy than all your coffee and codeine combined, seriously.
 
I know it's probably annoying to hear because I heard it for soooooooo long too, but they're right, you should try eating a big proper breakfast. If you have a problem with lethargy, maybe eat even a bigger breakfast than what's average.

Take vitamins, stay hydrated, eat healthy and even being fit give you sooooo much energy. I didn't do any of these for years and when a doctor would tell me I would just roll my eyes, but after actually doing it for a week I had sooo much energy and was out of this cycle. I wouldn't have the energy to do anything or work out so i wouldn't work out, so it wouldn't give me energy. It's a hard cycle to get out of and I know if you try it, it doesn't feel like it's working, but after a week you can really notice it working.

Make the changes you can which are nutrition, exercise and drink plenty of water and see if that helps.

Taking benzos once a week shouldnt be making you lethargic or taking your energy.

It sounds like you may have a slight depression or ADD problem possibly, which I know can totally drain your energy. I take vyvane now for my ADD and i feel better than ever and basically normal on it. Maybe talk to a doctor and explain your symptoms, but like i said try the nutrition, exercise and drinking lots of water for a week and see if it helps, and then if it doesn't help enough see a doctor and atleast you can tell him you eat right and exercise, because that's going to be the first thing they tell you.

Also another thing is sleeping right... do you get 8 hours of sleep at an appropriate time everyday?
 
I didn't notice you take opiates also everyday...

I was a codeine addict, oxy addict, dilaudid addict, heroin addict and morphine addict - all at different times. Believe me when I was in the slightest withdrawal I had absolutely no energy, and the minute I did opiates all my energy was back.

It sounds like you may be stuck in a constant slight withdrawal from this codeine and it's draining you and giving you back some energy when you use codeine and drink coffee. And just that schedule for your body is taking a toll and taking your energy it sounds like.
 
This is not a stumper. It is the Zyprexa, and 5 mg is quite significant a dose.
 
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This is not a stumper. It is the Zyprexa, and 5 mg is quite significant a dose.
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I don't know a ton about zyprexa or olanzapine, but from what i've read about it, a daily dose of 5 mg of an atypical antipsychotic doesn't sound like it would make you lethargic 24/7 as a side effect.

Talk to the doctor prescribing you your zyprexa and let him know that you're feeling this way and see what he recommends, again I know he is going to say to make sure your nutrition, exercise and sleep are perfect first, and if those are perfect and you're still lethargic then maybe he will investigate further and see if there's another underlying cause.
 
cjb017 said:
I don't know a ton about zyprexa or olanzapine, but from what i've read about it, a daily dose of 5 mg of an atypical antipsychotic doesn't sound like it would make you lethargic 24/7 as a side effect.
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It very well could. Never underestimate the power of the neuroleptic.
 
knock down the amount of caffeine unless you drink that much when you rise. They always say "don't drink sugary drinks or caffeine after 3pm" or some BS. Maybe instead of the nicotine patch you could find a smoking cessation drug, i think bupoprion is one and also for anti-anxiety? may have to check that yourself
 
I've got a fair idea as to what is making you tired,
You say you do CWEs, is it an opiate like codeine for example?
If so that's the first part of the puzzle,
You said you take valium & nicotine chewing gum as well.
I'm pretty sure Nicotine, valium & opiate meds like codeine all have a negative effect on the central nervous system if taken together, it's a bad interaction,
And from personal experience i've found that taking codeine, valium & nicotine have an unwanted side effect of making me very very sleepy,
If I take 2 out of the 3 of them I'm fine but if I take all 3 in a high enough dose I get so sleepy until the nicotine wears off
Since thats the quickest drug to leave the body.
I dont know much about any other meds you have mentioned, just the bad side effects between the 3 I mentioned above,
Hope this helps
 
Ohh and even though I've confirmed only those 3 meds mixed do cause sleepyness,
There's a high chance your other meds may play a roll in this too, only way you can truly find out for sure is to try different combinations if possible until you find out which ones interact badly together, maybe take 1 med out of the equation at a time until you find out what's causing a bad sleepy tired interaction.
 
Just to clarify things incase moderators think I'm being self incriminating, the medicines I mentioned that I take are prescribed, I dont want anyone thinking I'm breaking forum rules.
 
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