Antipsychotics (Undoing the Spirit)

[Deleted member 594895]

DISCLAIMER: Always talk with your doctor before starting or ending your prescription regiment(s)
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I have been on antipsychs for about 30 years. What have I learned?

They kill dopamine levels.

Dopamine is the chemical in an individual's brain that tells him "Life is Good; All will be Well; Be Good to yourself & others" (eg. Happiness).

When I was first prescribed this "spiritual poison" I went from having the mental compacity of a confident, full of will power 18 yo to a severely depressed, lythargic, suicidal 95 yo alzheimers patient in just 3-4 days.

I felt I was being controlled and mentally raped. I died inside. That "death" I felt is what I call the "soft lobotomy"

[NOTE: Certainly, I needed these meds at that time. Though, my doctors should have given me the answers I needed to live a normal life and weened off in just 6 months. See my bio on how I finally overcame at the age of 48].

As I got older, my dopamine was in freefall.

I got to the point i was sleeping 15hrs.

I would wake up and be so drained of having no dopamine/excitment in my brain -it would take me 45 min lying in bed trying to form a thought!

I said "f*ck it! I will start taking this "spiritual poison" just 5 days per week!"

Sure enough, my thinking became clear again and dopamine levels had returned to a satisfactory level.

Why say all this?

It is spiritual warfare!

If doctors can not cure schizophrenia in just 6 months, then those doctors are just as insane as their patients.

Nobody should have to be on the "spiritual poison" for more than 6 months in an entire life!

Another reason why I say this?

1: Schizophrenia is basically code for "Dissident"

2: 1000s of years of psychology and STILL no "cure"? C'mon.

Psychology is Fake.

PS- I would stop taking it though I am blackmailed to keep taking it in exchange for a place to stay. In the end it really was "mental rape" for those doctors stole 30+ years of life!

 

[M!$TER-ED]

DISCLAIMER: Always talk with your doctor before starting or ending your prescription regiment(s)
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I have been on antipsychs for about 30 years. What have I learned?

They kill dopamine levels.

Dopamine is the chemical in an individual's brain that tells him "Life is Good; All will be Well; Be Good to yourself & others" (eg. Happiness).

When I was first prescribed this "spiritual poison" I went from having the mental compacity of a confident, full of will power 18 yo to a severely depressed, lythargic, suicidal 95 yo alzheimers patient in just 3-4 days.

I felt I was being controlled and mentally raped. I died inside. That "death" I felt is what I call the "soft lobotomy"

[NOTE: Certainly, I needed these meds at that time. Though, my doctors should have given me the answers I needed to live a normal life and weened off in just 6 months. See my bio on how I finally overcame at the age of 48].

As I got older, my dopamine was in freefall.

I got to the point i was sleeping 15hrs.

I would wake up and be so drained of having no dopamine/excitment in my brain -it would take me 45 min lying in bed trying to form a thought!

I said "f*ck it! I will start taking this "spiritual poison" just 5 days per week!"

Sure enough, my thinking became clear again and dopamine levels had returned to a satisfactory level.

Why say all this?

It is spiritual warfare!

If doctors can not cure schizophrenia in just 6 months, then those doctors are just as insane as their patients.

Nobody should have to be on the "spiritual poison" for more than 6 months in an entire life!

Another reason why I say this?

1: Schizophrenia is basically code for "Dissident"

2: 1000s of years of psychology and STILL no "cure"? C'mon.

Psychology is Fake.

PS- I would stop taking it though I am blackmailed to keep taking it in exchange for a place to stay. In the end it really was "mental rape" for those doctors stole 30+ years of life!

I hear your frustration and anger but how is that benefiting your life now? Perhaps you could use experience helping other people in similar circumstances? You could work or volunteer as a peer support by educating yourself through peer support services online to become certified.
As it stands now, you’re blowing off steam and ranting about being cheated by life.
This may come as a surprise but life is difficult for everyone in some way or another. Be grateful for what you have now compared to where you were in life.
Even if working as a peer doesn’t suit you, find other ways to be helpful either volunteering or through gainful employment. You could take online classes or a dozen more ways to be productive.
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[Deleted member 594895]

@M!$TER-ED

1000%!

I am in a f*cked-up scenario. I can never tell my mom 'no' nor criticize her. If I do she would say the dr needs to increase my meds.

She won't let me go back to work nor volunteer nor even community centers again. I guess I am her f*cking servant for life!

I would sue the country (for malpractice) & my mom (for "entrapment?") but I have missed over 30 years of my life.

30+ years of understanding how the world works, how people work, how my mind works, etc.

I have both feet in the grave.

If I could I would drive 2,000mi just to find legal opiods so I could ***. Though I will stay with myself for now.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I tend to not like anti-psychs and think they are sometimes used just to dumb people down.

that said schizophrenia exists and psychology is real. There are many things with no cure and we dont go "Ahh science is bullshit"

Suing the county only works if you are super clean and can withstand the county coming back at you -- but if you can than and the situation merits it....statute of limitations?

Most likely your mother is trying to look out for you but I have a severe lack of context - why would you think otherwise?

 

[Deleted member 594895]

@notsmokeymcpot42088

The "lacking context" part is my problem, too.

I am waking out of a 30+ year "walking" coma! My mind has been intentionally paralyzed in a state of stupor.

Will Power: 13%
Confidence: 21%
Faith: 1%

All those are up 1200% from last year. It is a very f*cking slow revovery since Feb 2025!

After decades of overwhelming evidence that antipsychs are used not to "treat" schizophrenia -but used as a weapon to "soft lobotomize" vulnerable humans and keep patients unable to cope.

Where is Dr Phil & Alex Jones on this f*cking issue?!

It is genocide what these doctors are doing.

F*ck!!

PS- My friends ghosted be 15 years ago. So there is also that! Damn!

 

[Deleted member 594895]

@notsmokeymcpot42088

Of all the people I have met at psych clinics & community centers, I would say 80% of schizo/depression parients are normal folks who were not taught the basics of human coping.

In feb 2025 one morning at my office it just dawned on me my problem was my breathing this whole time.

Something so f*cking simple as breathing!

Sure, I remember my therapists handing out slow-breathing method literature at group.

I never tried it because they DID NOT tell us WHY it works!

Knowing why and putting into words makes it all the reason to keep it nailed to my refrigerator as a means to cope

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I do not disagree that schizophrenia is overdiagnosed. I would go further to say that I have definitely see it used to 'soft lobotomize' patients for as little as "Being a pain in the ass" (There words not mine). Thorazine is the weapon of choice for that but seroquel is falling into favorr.

@notsmokeymcpot42088

Of all the people I have met at psych clinics & community centers, I would say 80% of schizo/depression parients are normal folks who were not taught the basics of human coping.

I can believe that. When your only tool is a hammer (anti-psychs) everything starts to look like a nail. Obviously they have plenty of tools at they disposal and anti-psychotics should be an absolute last resort.....in my (peggy hill) opinion.

Were they a last resort? Did they try SSRI's, etc?

In feb 2025 one morning at my office it just dawned on me my problem was my breathing this whole time.

Something so f*cking simple as breathing!

Sure, I remember my therapists handing out slow-breathing method literature at group.

I never tried it because they DID NOT tell us WHY it works!

Knowing why and putting into words makes it all the reason to keep it nailed to my refrigerator as a means to cope

This part is a bit confusing -- so your therapists tried to teach you breathing methods and you blew them off because you didnt know "Why" it would succeed --- than you years later discovered that some breathing methods do work?

If I got that right -- that is on you homie!

Breathing methods work for reasons that are frankly not fully understood by science, the brain is complicated --- even if they did fully understand them....you expect them to be able to relay that to normal people in a way they comprehend?

I always say "Question everything" -- but not at your own peril!! Someone yells "Duck!!" you go "And why would I do that?". (Bad metaphor but close enough).

@notsmokeymcpot42088

The "lacking context" part is my problem, too.

I am waking out of a 30+ year "walking" coma! My mind has been intentionally paralyzed in a state of stupor.

Okay -- was there an event that spurred this schizophrenia diagnosis? You just being a good kid listening to your will smith CD and doing your homework when you are told you have to see a psychiatrist -- who than decides to soft lobotomize you..... because? Gotta help us make it make sense!!

Paying a shitton of money to doctors
gaslighting your child into believing they are ill
having them soft lobotomized = Profit?? --- Not ruling it out but sounds unlikely.

That equation doesnt pan. I urge you to get context, have your medical records pulled and read them. You are an adult you have that right.

After decades of overwhelming evidence that antipsychs are used not to "treat" schizophrenia -but used as a weapon to "soft lobotomize" vulnerable humans and keep patients unable to cope.

Where is Dr Phil & Alex Jones on this f*cking issue?!

It is genocide what these doctors are doing.

F*ck!!

PS- My friends ghosted be 15 years ago. So there is also that! Damn!

Dr Phil and Alex Jones are complete fucking jokes both unqualified in their fields. Look into Dr. Phil's medical degree a bit (Unless you were joking and picked 2 idiots on purpose)

Genocide? Against who? -- if schizophrenia doesnt exist....which IT DOES let's be clear about that. 75% of the cases are misdiagnosed (Idk, maybe, I see it happen alot) that still leaves 25% of cases that are truly schizophrenia. Genocide is a wild hyperbole -- and I am okay with calling ICE full up nazi gestapo motherfuckers so I am not beyond (Well is it?) hyperbole.

Sorry your friends ghosted you.

Sincerely -- I got hit with a stigma and most of my friends ghosted me and the ones that didnt I (mostly) gave the Irish push -- some of them I told to kick rocks on certain terms.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

IDK if you are seeing a therapist do they know about your relationship with your mother? There is something terribly wrong with the control she has over you. Why don't you move out and become independent? You seem intelligent and capable of learning to live independently. I get she has control, but remember, that's a choice you have given to her.
Obviously with any relationship even if it is toxic you are getting something out of it or else you would come up with a way to change it. You don't have to be a victim, that is something you choose to do.

 

[Deleted member 594895]

@notsmokeymcpot42088
You said...

"If I got that right -- that is on you homie!

Breathing methods work for reasons that are frankly not fully understood by science, the brain is complicated"
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Fact: Anger & Anxiety need oxygen.

Fact: Carbon Dioxide calms the nervous system.

Not "fully understood"? Uh, yeah it is when you put it into words.

Those facts were not on the pamphlets. Fault is not on me; it is on them! I don't read minds nor believe in that supernatural "talent"

 

[Deleted member 594895]

@M!$TER-ED

if i leave she will call the cops and fill a missing-person report and she will tell them "he's mentally ill this and mentally ill that".

Once "mental illness" is on your repatoir -it's over.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

@M!$TER-ED

if i leave she will call the cops and fill a missing-person report and she will tell them "he's mentally ill this and mentally ill that".

Once "mental illness" is on your repatoir -it's over.

What kind of area do you live in? Rural, town, city, country? Do you have any support other than mom? Any relatives, siblings, anyone?

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

@notsmokeymcpot42088
You said...

"If I got that right -- that is on you homie!

Breathing methods work for reasons that are frankly not fully understood by science, the brain is complicated"
________

Fact: Anger & Anxiety need oxygen.

Fact: Carbon Dioxide calms the nervous system.

Not "fully understood"? Uh, yeah it is when you put it into words.

Those facts were not on the pamphlets. Fault is not on me; it is on them! I don't read minds nor believe in that supernatural "talent"

The brain is not fully understood. Sorry if I confused you

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I agree with most of this. Antipsychotics are evil. I also call them chemical lobotomies. However, psychology is not “fake.” That is an absurd statement. I’m think all the people struggling with bipolar disorder etc. would disagree.

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I do not disagree that schizophrenia is overdiagnosed. I would go further to say that I have definitely see it used to 'soft lobotomize' patients for as little as "Being a pain in the ass" (There words not mine). Thorazine is the weapon of choice for that but seroquel is falling into favorr.


I can believe that. When your only tool is a hammer (anti-psychs) everything starts to look like a nail. Obviously they have plenty of tools at they disposal and anti-psychotics should be an absolute last resort.....in my (peggy hill) opinion.

Were they a last resort? Did they try SSRI's, etc?



This part is a bit confusing -- so your therapists tried to teach you breathing methods and you blew them off because you didnt know "Why" it would succeed --- than you years later discovered that some breathing methods do work?

If I got that right -- that is on you homie!

Breathing methods work for reasons that are frankly not fully understood by science, the brain is complicated --- even if they did fully understand them....you expect them to be able to relay that to normal people in a way they comprehend?

I always say "Question everything" -- but not at your own peril!! Someone yells "Duck!!" you go "And why would I do that?". (Bad metaphor but close enough).




Okay -- was there an event that spurred this schizophrenia diagnosis? You just being a good kid listening to your will smith CD and doing your homework when you are told you have to see a psychiatrist -- who than decides to soft lobotomize you..... because? Gotta help us make it make sense!!

Paying a shitton of money to doctors
gaslighting your child into believing they are ill
having them soft lobotomized = Profit?? --- Not ruling it out but sounds unlikely.

That equation doesnt pan. I urge you to get context, have your medical records pulled and read them. You are an adult you have that right.




Dr Phil and Alex Jones are complete fucking jokes both unqualified in their fields. Look into Dr. Phil's medical degree a bit (Unless you were joking and picked 2 idiots on purpose)

Genocide? Against who? -- if schizophrenia doesnt exist....which IT DOES let's be clear about that. 75% of the cases are misdiagnosed (Idk, maybe, I see it happen alot) that still leaves 25% of cases that are truly schizophrenia. Genocide is a wild hyperbole -- and I am okay with calling ICE full up nazi gestapo motherfuckers so I am not beyond (Well is it?) hyperbole.

Sorry your friends ghosted you.

Sincerely -- I got hit with a stigma and most of my friends ghosted me and the ones that didnt I (mostly) gave the Irish push -- some of them I told to kick rocks on certain terms.

If you don’t mind me asking, what is the “stigma” you speak of?

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

@M!$TER-ED

1000%!

I am in a f*cked-up scenario. I can never tell my mom 'no' nor criticize her. If I do she would say the dr needs to increase my meds.

She won't let me go back to work nor volunteer nor even community centers again. I guess I am her f*cking servant for life!

I would sue the country (for malpractice) & my mom (for "entrapment?") but I have missed over 30 years of my life.

30+ years of understanding how the world works, how people work, how my mind works, etc.

I have both feet in the grave.

If I could I would drive 2,000mi just to find legal opiods so I could ***. Though I will stay with myself for now.

You are an adult. What do you mean you can’t tell her “no”? You need to tell her to fuck off. It doesn’t matter what she “says to the doctor” if you don’t want to increase your meds then you don’t have to. You need to take control of your life and stop letting your mother push you around. You need to put your big boy pants on. Christ almighty.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

in my case addiction

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

in my case addiction

Ah gotcha.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

You are an adult. What do you mean you can’t tell her “no”? You need to tell her to fuck off. It doesn’t matter what she “says to the doctor” if you don’t want to increase your meds then you don’t have to. You need to take control of your life and stop letting your mother push you around. You need to put your big boy pants on. Christ almighty.

^Right

OP -- The most she should be able to do is call your doctors and tell them she is worried -- at which point you should receive a doctors assessment which occurs independently.

I think this equation may be missing needed info, you seem pretty sure she can slam dunk you. Why?