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Antioxidants and roll diminish?

F1n1shed

F1n1shed

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Just wanted to ask a quick question, has anyone ever experienced their roll become weaker or diminished because of pre loading with heavy anti oxidants? My guess is it won't have any effect but i just want to make sure. For anti oxidants i will preloading with vitamin C , alpha lipoic acid , and green tea. I will be taking alpha acid and vitamin C as i come home from the rave and green tea the following day. And also any insight on whether taking a lot of vitamin C before the rave kind of diminish how much mdma is absorbed in the stomach because of acidity? Thx
 
My last roll I pre-loaded with vitamin c pills that had some probiotic in them, piracetam, and choline bitartrate and my roll was diminished.
I don't think it was the piracetam or choline that did it.
I don't think it was the vitamin c itself either. Had to of been that probiotic... hmm.
 
Vitamin C is acidic and is also a potent anti-oxidant. Vitamin C can cause two things - your stomach to become more acidic which MDMA absorbs best in an alkaline environment - and it also will cause your body to eliminate it faster.

Keep the C for the come down. ALA should be okay. Green tea is fine but if you drink too much, the l-theanine content may affect the stimulation of the roll.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Vitamin C is acidic and is also a potent anti-oxidant. Vitamin C can cause two things - your stomach to become more acidic which MDMA absorbs best in an alkaline environment - and it also will cause your body to eliminate it faster.

Keep the C for the come down. ALA should be okay. Green tea is fine but if you drink too much, the l-theanine content may affect the stimulation of the roll.
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Cool i was looking for an answer like that. I guess i will have only 1 glass of green tea pre roll and as for vitamin C i will take some Tums after to neutralize the acids in my stomach, it should counter act it quite well.
 
^^ yea i read some of that article rollinballs, I guess its really hard to gauge how hard you would roll if you had or hadn't preloaded with things so I'm just going to go ahead and do it. I took a 9+ month break from rolling anyways so i am pretty sure i will be floored. I'll just make sure to take much more anti oxidants after the roll and only a little before.
 
Always preload with vitamin C. Never felt my roll diminished. Days after my roll are much smoother. Also I have the feeling that I'm protecting my brain a bit. How much, can't tell...
 
Outwest said:
Always preload with vitamin C. Never felt my roll diminished. Days after my roll are much smoother. Also I have the feeling that I'm protecting my brain a bit. How much, can't tell...
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How would you know if your rolls are diminished if you always take vitamin C before?:D
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Vitamin C is acidic and is also a potent anti-oxidant. Vitamin C can cause two things - your stomach to become more acidic which MDMA absorbs best in an alkaline environment - and it also will cause your body to eliminate it faster.
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Acidity has been associated with faster metabolism and exrection of amphetamine from the body but afaik it's not yet been established as to wether or not this effects MDMA..

Got any info on it?
 
I have used both vitamin C and ala as part of a pre-roll regimen and have never experienced any sort of impact, positive or negative on the actual experience itself. My reasoning for using antioxidants is more as a neuroprotectant rather than as an mdma enhancer.
 
i always pre load with vitamin c, about 6 caps throughout the day and an orange or 2, then a gatorade 2 hours before, the extra vitamin c must help extend my roll because i've rolled 7-8 hours everytime
 
Lately i take vitamin C before aswell, and i have to say the roll feels a lot cleaner and i have a more gentle comedown. If you want to improve the intensity of the roll i guess piracetam is the best option.
 
No my reasoning for anti oxidants is purely to fight against oxidized radicals. I am no way trying to have a roll enhancer or anything, I will have tums after the vitamin C to neutralize the acids. But yes i will definitely be both pre and post loading with these.
 
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