^^ will do. To be honest, in some weird twisted way it kinda makes sense to me not to take it. I mean, yes, it makes me depressed and perhaps even suicidal at times but when I think about it, it kind of makes sense. I mean, I doubt there are many people in a similar situation to mine who are happy, or think very highly of themselves, so to me the relief of feeling like that is kind of 'lying' to myself in a way. That might not make much sense but heh.
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Antidepressants vs exercise?
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Neoprimitive
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It makes a bit of sense mate but if you are goign to go off do so under a drs supervision in case shit goes sideways. look I still battle with my depression on a daily basis mate. I have been on meds for years, slowly got off of them but with the aid of a Dr, and only after a few years of meds and talking several times a week, to work through my issues. Doing the CBT, talking to my therapist,and building back my self respect and worth. it takes time brother. Thing is you can try to rationalize things but that's all it is a rationalization that you are giving your self. one thing I can say is there is a belief that most normal people for lack of a better term are happy every day, and that because we are depressed we are abnormal for not being happy. truth is most people are not happy every day, normal is not really normal it is subjective. The other thing is your not lying to your self, because the meds help even you out and allow you to be happy. look at it like this: is a guy that uses a prosthetic leg lying to him self when he uses it to walk? or is he walking, with a little help? No he is still walking.
Thank you, and I am glad you are feeling better, you seem like a lovely guy!
To be honest I have SUCH mixed feelings about taking them, but I am getting feelings throughout the day almost of 'you don't really have much of a choice'. CBT IS kind of difficult I think, sometimes it gets so repetitive having the same negative thoughts over and over again and writing them down and working on them etc.
To be honest I have SUCH mixed feelings about taking them, but I am getting feelings throughout the day almost of 'you don't really have much of a choice'. CBT IS kind of difficult I think, sometimes it gets so repetitive having the same negative thoughts over and over again and writing them down and working on them etc.
Neoprimitive
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Thanks brother. I under stand the CBT thing being repetitive. It sometimes is a little laughable at how repetitive it can be, and just sort of how your brain shuts off while you are doing some of the exercises. Yeah that feeling of you don't have much of a choice can be a hard one. I never really went through that one my self so I cant speak to that, all I can do is offer some encouragement to you and hope that some of my story can help you or maybe you can see your story in a different light. You sound like a nice guy your self and frankly you have taken the biggest step opening up about your problem, and trying to figure it out. That is a huge thing mate, just going to your self hey I want to work this out is healthy. Having mixed feelings about the meds is understandable, especially with the side effects they can have. One of the reasons I fought meds my self, you gotta give them a chance. That begin said you can try different medications, not every one has success with the same single med or combination of meds, I went through a whole series of meds before we landed on a set up I could deal with. That is sort of what you seem to be in the process of trying to find the one.ones you can live with. Like we have said before mate keep at it talk to your doc, maybe add a new med, or a different set of meds. One thing though is keep with the exercise the more you do this the better your self image will be as you slowly make progress with the exercise you will start to feel like you are accomplishing things; you can try yoga and meditation as well, great fro helping shed stress, and center your mind. There are great videos on you tube for this as well as free movies and such you can down load to instruct your self on meditation and yoga. Well man keep it up, and remember you have people here that if you ever need to talk you can message and people will respond, I know I will mate. Cheers and hold fast mate
Foreigner
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Anti-depressants, in general, are meant to be a shorter term supplement (6 months to 1 year) for acute cases, and to be used in combination with some kind of cognitive therapy. Withdrawal feelings when stopping the meds is normal, but if extreme suicidal thoughts occur immediately then either you haven't received the kind of primary therapy you need (i.e. talk therapy, art therapy, whatever...), or I question your depression diagnosis.
In the future if you consider stopping your anti-depressants, make sure you have easy access to a therapist so you can discuss what you're going through. Also, make sure you have your lifestyle mechanisms well established: good diet, exercise, people around who you can call on, access to nature (or some kind of external beauty), etc... so that when you stop the meds you have some fallback points.
If you have access to an alternative health practitioner, like a naturopath or acupuncturist, I'd consider that route too. Something tells me you have a greater imbalance happening than simply what is in your brain.
Regardless if you're on anti-depressants or not, exercise is not optional.
In the future if you consider stopping your anti-depressants, make sure you have easy access to a therapist so you can discuss what you're going through. Also, make sure you have your lifestyle mechanisms well established: good diet, exercise, people around who you can call on, access to nature (or some kind of external beauty), etc... so that when you stop the meds you have some fallback points.
If you have access to an alternative health practitioner, like a naturopath or acupuncturist, I'd consider that route too. Something tells me you have a greater imbalance happening than simply what is in your brain.
Regardless if you're on anti-depressants or not, exercise is not optional.
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are you a general practitioner foreigner or just pretend to be?
Foreigner
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I'm just giving advice like everyone else... did I say something GP like?
Sorry, I found that part very confusing, what do you mean by 'a greater imbalance happening than simply what is in your brain'?
As to the 'lifestyle mechanisms' I think I have those, more or less anyway, my diet is getting better and I exercise quite regularly, except when I have my freaking alcoholic relapses then everything goes to shit. Also, I don't have ANYONE I can talk to, not IRL anyway, it sucks.
As to the 'lifestyle mechanisms' I think I have those, more or less anyway, my diet is getting better and I exercise quite regularly, except when I have my freaking alcoholic relapses then everything goes to shit. Also, I don't have ANYONE I can talk to, not IRL anyway, it sucks.
DOB
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lets face it,whitdraw from benzo and alcohol is like worst combination of hell like experiences possible in this world.I wish u best luck but rly,ask your self,when u were drinking and getting benzo down your throat,u must knew thats really fuking stupid decision and that sooner or later,it turns your life into nightmare
curing addiction with another severly addictive drug is bad,grab some balls together and face it,u gonna suffer horribly for months,becose u deserve it,but sooner or later u will be fine just dont use anything
i believe excersise will help greatly.but nutrition is essential too.... be sure to get omega 3 and alot veggies everyday
research Lithium orotate on net,with smart dose proly healthiest choice to fight ur fukd up brain chemistry
curing addiction with another severly addictive drug is bad,grab some balls together and face it,u gonna suffer horribly for months,becose u deserve it,but sooner or later u will be fine just dont use anything
i believe excersise will help greatly.but nutrition is essential too.... be sure to get omega 3 and alot veggies everyday
research Lithium orotate on net,with smart dose proly healthiest choice to fight ur fukd up brain chemistry
DOB
Bluelighter
why,what is recomended dose? 6 g day?? what happens if u take more?? wasnt aware u can OD on fish oil
Well I currently take 7 grams of fish oil a day, for a total of 700mg DHA and 1050mg of EPA. Is this a reasonable dose?
Oh and DOB or whatever your username is, I reevaluated your comment and came to the same conclusion as I did initially. I really hope you suffer the full consequences of abusing steroids along with any other drugs you use. I hope it has a disastrous effect on your health and well-being. You deserve to suffer for a very long time.
Oh and DOB or whatever your username is, I reevaluated your comment and came to the same conclusion as I did initially. I really hope you suffer the full consequences of abusing steroids along with any other drugs you use. I hope it has a disastrous effect on your health and well-being. You deserve to suffer for a very long time.
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Maya
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3 grams is actually the "recommended dose" a day.
I took so much fish oil daily for about 6 months and went over 3 grams and I noticed that when I cut the fish oil intake for only one capsule a day I started to feel better and less dizziness. I'm not too sure as to how others bodies will react but this is what I experienced.
Foreigner
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^ You might be able to gradually increase your intake to higher levels but if you start out high it can sometimes create an imbalance between LDL and HDL which results in various symptoms, including the ones that Maya described.
In all cases YMMV and it's important to listen to what your individual body is asking for, and not what someone else's standard model tells you to do.
In all cases YMMV and it's important to listen to what your individual body is asking for, and not what someone else's standard model tells you to do.