Antidepressants and stimulants help please?

MissNervosa

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Ok so,at the moment I'm on 100mg of the tricyclic Amitriptyline for depression,up to 4mg a day of Xanax for anxiety,and 50mg Solian (amisupride) as a mood brightener/dopamine agonist.
I was a total speed freak for 2-3 years but have been clean for about 5 years now.

Perhaps this sounds ridiculous,but I have a rental inspection in 10 days,and the Amitriptyline makes me so tired and lethargic I can barely get out of bed most days,let alone do the kind of hardcore cleaning I need to do.

I've recently stumbled across a pre workout supplement that currently has several lawsuits against it alleging it contains amphetamines.For me,it feels and works exactly like amphetamines (kind of like adderall and provigil combined).Combining the supplement and the dopamine agonist will have me full of energy and intensely motivated for around 6 hours,and allows me to clean hard in that time.The problem being,I'm exhausted the next day,my body is sore and I have a bit of anxiety and need a day off to rest.

From some basic research,I've found amphetamines can increase the effects of tricyclics,so I'm wondering if that may be one of the reasons I'm so exhausted the next day?

Obviously I should ask my doctor this,but he is away for 2 weeks,so I'll ask here.Does anyone have experience with tricyclics and stimulants? And since it's only for 10 days,should I decrease my Amitriptyline dose down to about 25mg to combat the fatigue?

I usually take Xanax to come down a bit from the supplement and get a decent nights sleep,but are there other things I should be doing if I want to take stimulants for 10 straight days to keep my body and mind healthy? Like increasing protein,vitamins,hot baths and stretching?

I know this all sounds slightly retarded and very noob of me,but if anyone could point me in the right direction,I'd appreciate it.I can't afford to have a day off between stim use right now. Thanks in advance
 
MissNervosa, I really think that you should talk to a doctor about using a supplement that interacts with your medication. If your doctor isn't available he probably has someone on call to cover his practice while he is gone. Even though someone might have experience, you are really taking a risky chance getting any kind of medical advice from the internet. Also, does the supplement worry you since you used to have a problem with stims?

I'm wondering if you have any good friends or family members that would be willing to help you out with the cleaning if you made it fun? You know, put on good music, reward them with a nice dinner at the end? My friend and I have helped each other like that sometimes with stuff that is just hard too tackle on our own like major housecleaning, painting, gardening etc. We end up talking while we work and so it's a visit and gets the task done at the same time. You could promise to help with a task for them in exchange for help for you this time.
 
Thanks herbavore <3 I know if I talk to anyone but my psych about this,they'll flat out tell me to get off the supplement,and may even flag me as having some sort of substance abuse problem.Since I take Xanax and need it,I can't risk that.

I didn't take my tricyclic last night,just as an experiment for today to see how I feel.I feel ok so far.I think the main problem is that my tricyclic is giving me a hangover effect the next day from such a high dose,which is where my lack of energy is coming from.As for the supplement interacting with it,I think the main worry is if it does contain amphetamine (and there's currently no proof),there's a small risk of serotonin syndrome,but I used to take strong speed daily with antidepresants,so the risk is very minimal.

I'll admit the first time I took the supplement,I felt so good,and so high,I ended up taking too much.You're supposed to take a maximum of two scoops,and I ended up taking four to keep chasing the high.From reading body building forums,two scoops knocks some of these huge guys on their asses and they can't handle it,and taking four scoops extended the high,but I had a terrible comedown.Crying,paranoia,scared I'd never sleep again...that sort of thing.I was then really glad that I hadn't actually bought speed/meth instead,and learnt my lesson.Since then I limit myself to two scoops,and the high gently fades away,and I haven't had a crash since.I also remembered just how exhausting speed could be,and after this inspection is done,I don't think I'd take the supplement more than once a week,so I think I'm safe from addiction potential.

As for friends,I only have one friend I could bear to see my mess,and she moved to QLD in January. To quote myself from the intro thread....

"I've known for the last 3 weeks I have a rental inspection coming up and haven't managed to do anything about it....now I have 3 more weeks to clean the house,and most days it's too much of an effort to even shower and feed myself,let alone clean.
See I have a lot of pets-1 dog,1 cat and 4 rabbits (I'm actually a rabbit rescuer).My pets and my boyfriend are the only things that keep me going most days.The real estate only know about my dog,and having four rabbits living in the house is like living in a barn.The whole house is a disaster area.It not only stinks and needs serious cleaning (I only manage to keep the pet areas clean enough so my pets don't suffer) but we have too much junk and clutter,and I don't know where to put anything,or where to start tidying,and I'm so FUCKING TIRED all the time.

My boyfriend works long hours just to keep a roof over our heads at the moment,we can't afford a cleaner,and even if we could,I'd be too ashamed to let them in.The few friends I have never come to my house-I always meet them somewhere,because I'm so ashamed of the place."

So I guess what I'd really like to know is the part about keeping my body and mind as healthy as I can.Let's just pretend I'm doing speed every day,and that it's lasting 6-8 hours each day.Are there vitamins I should be taking? Should I increase protein or carbs in my diet? Any advice on combating body aches and pain? I know the stim supplement is the only way I'm gonna get through this,so any harm reduction tips would be appreciated <3
 
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