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anti-rape devices

You defend yourself like you do from any other type of criminal, by attacking the weakest points. Eyes, throat, testicles. When fighting 'dirty' which you are entitled to do if someone is trying to rape you, its pretty easy to win. Infact its pretty hard to LOSE. Very few men will continue their attack if they have been kicked in the balls, if any.
 
tricomb said:
Yep, in a perfect world there wouldn't be rape to begin with, this isn't a perfect world.
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I don't mean eradicate rape (though that would be great). I just mean that the onus shouldn't simply be on women to avoid getting raped. These devices are so incredibly extreme, but if they exist, then they are obviously needed. That just shows how high the risk is, and that really shouldn't be the case..
 
nooneanymore said:
How do you know that its under reported if it hasn't been reported?
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It may not sound logical, but it's a fact that most women (and men) don't report rape for fear of embarassment/humiliation/etc. The truth is, those stats can be a little skewed - we can't really know for sure.
 
moonyham said:
You defend yourself like you do from any other type of criminal, by attacking the weakest points. Eyes, throat, testicles. When fighting 'dirty' which you are entitled to do if someone is trying to rape you, its pretty easy to win. Infact its pretty hard to LOSE. Very few men will continue their attack if they have been kicked in the balls, if any.
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What if they're armed....what if you're drugged first...
what if you're in bed sleeping and all of a sudden you're pinned down...

it's not always an option..........
 
of course its not, but thats not what im saying. What im saying is this is a bandaid on a gash, its not a solution to the problem. Getting rid of rapists is, and these poor africans are unlikely to afford an anti rape tool that costs probably what they spend on food for a whole month.
 
moonyham said:
of course its not, but thats not what im saying. What im saying is this is a bandaid on a gash, its not a solution to the problem. Getting rid of rapists is, and these poor africans are unlikely to afford an anti rape tool that costs probably what they spend on food for a whole month.
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ok...you won me over with that one. :)

token
 
moonyham said:
You defend yourself like you do from any other type of criminal, by attacking the weakest points. Eyes, throat, testicles. When fighting 'dirty' which you are entitled to do if someone is trying to rape you, its pretty easy to win. Infact its pretty hard to LOSE. Very few men will continue their attack if they have been kicked in the balls, if any.
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Yeah silly women, just fight back harder. simples. 8)
 
It's not just women, men are raped too, and it's not always a matter of physically undermining the attacker. Yes it would be convenient if you could fight them off, but this is not always possible considering most rapists have an M.O. to subdue their victims.
 
Yeah rape is not a thing you can avoid and you can't always win the fight. I don't see why so many people get defensive over this subject.... Well the one's who like to act like rape really doesn't happen and what not. It's sad to see how many people think rape can be prevented all the time and that the victim's actions effect whether or not they get raped. Yeah some people are more at risk for being raped because of some mistakes they make but that doesn't mean they deserved it. No one deserves to be raped. Anyone can be raped and its sickening to see how many people believe men can't be raped. Why do we have to act that way? No wonder why many men feel ashamed to come forward.

At my sister's graduation I saw her friend walk across the stage holding her daughter while walking to get her diploma. It was so sickening and upsetting to hear all the people around me talking shit on her and what not. The worst thing about it is that she was raped and yes nobody knows but why should they? They would just continue to be as judgmental as they were before.
 
There's not a lot of reason to come forward anyways, man or woman. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's something to be swept under the rug, far from it. But what does coming forward usually accomplish? The police downplay what happened to you, try their best to find flaws in your story, aggravate PTSD and overall just downsize what happened, while putting your face out there for everyone to judge, forever to be remembered as the guy/girl who was raped. Not to mention the pathetic sentences that the offenders usually receive, back on the streets raping more people in just a few months to years, many get off with no charges. You won't want to go through the "justice system" if it's justice you seek.

To say that rape can be prevented all the time is absolutely ludicrous, I totally agree with you on that. No one deserves rape. To those who say that it's a matter of "teaching them not to get raped" or "kicking them in the balls", what do you do if, for example, you wake up being raped? Or you are subdued, drugged, cut with a knife, beaten over the head, whatever. How do you defend yourself against that? I guarantee you it is very easy to say "oh yeah just fight back" or "they were asking for it" and obviously the words of someone who's never been raped.
 
I think it's good to come forward. I was sexually assaulted/molested more than once when I was in Foster Care back when I was only three years old. Yeah, three years old? You may say but I do remember things from back then. They're just broken memories though and have been repressed in the back of my mind. The worst things is I have so many people telling me this happened or no this happened and I can't even remember fully what happen. I really don't care that I'm admitting this online but it happened. The worst thing about it is knowing that nothing was done about it. The people who did these things to me are still out there. I know I can still go to court since it happened to me when I was a minor and I want to do that but I just don't know how. Not to really avenge what happened but I need to sue the child services in my area. We had many lawyers and what not tell us my sister and I could get at least a 6 digit figure. That's really nice but I'm not going to do this for the money but do this for all those kids... All the kids who fall between the cracks and who end up in the system where many don't give a fuck about you. I'm happy my mother got me back but what happened has fucked me up. PTSD will always be there even if one does not come forward and wounds will always be there if left alone.... Some are just waiting to be opened once again and you can try to pretend it never happened but it only causes you more pain. I ended up in a group home again because I was homeless and that triggered my PTSD extremely and I'm still facing problems with it.... Oh how I wish things like this wouldn't happen but we can try harder to prevent them and try harder to not judge people for what they had no decision over.
 
I totally agree, just don't think coming forward is the best option for everyone with the way our justice system handles it, no thankyou. I am not pretending or trying to deny things that happened, I assure you, I got my justice in my own way, and attempt to cope with what happened in my own way too, still have the PTSD though.

Going to sleep now, this thread has generated some excellent discussion, keep it up guys..
 
marie.claire said:
It may not sound logical, but it's a fact that most women (and men) don't report rape for fear of embarassment/humiliation/etc. The truth is, those stats can be a little skewed - we can't really know for sure.
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I suppose that nooneanymore is mixing the fact that rape is underreported (all crimes are underreported, but this is even more true for sex assaults*) with the fact that sex crimes get a lot of attention and that a false accusation of being a sex offender will make life tough for any men. In general, court are gender-biased when dealing with sex crimes.

Back on topic: the lipgloss is a very very clever idea. Kudos to the inventor. The other thing is just a bad (and rude) idea: even if can inflict damage it probably won't protect the girl from getting beaten up. AND the psychological wound of rape would be still there, I imagine: even if you got a trap in your vagina, that guy is still raping you. And then beating the crap out of you. I hope it is just a provocation (oh, and +1 to everyone that pointed out how this is again putting the responsibility of the rape on the shoulders of the woman)

*edit: how do you know? You ask people. People like the ones that seek aid from organizations but do not go to the police. And then: what about the children harassed by priest? What about domestic rape/violence? Heck, there was a girl here telling us that her drink was laced and she was raped (and she did not go to the police - don't know if she changed this by the time I'm writing).
 
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I like the idea of women being proactive.. the lip gloss is cool.. the female shredder condom thing is pretty brutal, hah. I mean, on one hand it's totally great because the scum bag deserves to get his dick ripped apart.. but, I invision that turning what might have just been a sexual assualt crime, into a murder. That dude is not going to be happy.
 
tricomb said:
You won't want to go through the "justice system" if it's justice you seek.

To say that rape can be prevented all the time is absolutely ludicrous, I totally agree with you on that. No one deserves rape. To those who say that it's a matter of "teaching them not to get raped" or "kicking them in the balls", what do you do if, for example, you wake up being raped? Or you are subdued, drugged, cut with a knife, beaten over the head, whatever. How do you defend yourself against that? I guarantee you it is very easy to say "oh yeah just fight back" or "they were asking for it" are obviously the words of someone who's never been raped.
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Yes^^^^echoed for truth...

motherofearth said:
The implication someone can just fight off a rape also implies those who've fallen victim did something wrong in not succeeding in warding off their attackers.
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also qft.

~token
 
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there's something hot about the way that woman is holding that scrotum, and the blurred look on her face as she stares at it.
 
No one says that having locks for our doors is putting the onus of responsibility to not be burglarized on the homeowner. Providing potential victims a tool with which to defend themselves does not necessarily include the implication that they are to blame for being victimized. It simply empowers them with an avenue of defense.

With that being said, I agree that if a society (i.e. South Africa, or any other country with statistics similar to those posted earlier in the thread) has such a serious problem with rape, there are a lot more systemic actions that need to be taken to protect people from it. These devices are a lot more extreme than having locks on your door to protect you from thieves, but in a society with a problem that extreme, I think that an extreme measure might be what some potential victims would choose.

@kaywholed: I agree that the antibiotics are the more important aspect of the treatment. Unfortunately, we don't have a "cure" for the occurrence of rape, especially in underdeveloped countries. If you were the person from your analogy and you ONLY had access to the painkillers, I don't think treating the symptoms of the problem would seem so stupid. I get that your point was that the ideal solution would be to stop rape altogether, but that's like saying we should stop worrying about medical treatment and just worry about not getting sick or injured. A problem should be attacked from all reasonable angles, not just the one that leads to an idealized solution.
 
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