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Anthony Mundine - Victim of the Media, or First Class Dickhead?

Bill, I couldn't have said it better myself (that's why I didn't try
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So the way I see it, the media set up a known first class dickhead...
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First Class Dickhead. For sure.
I've come to expect a level of arrogant stupidity to spoken from professional boxers. But that was just plain not on for any vocab-deficient neanderthal.
 
I reckon you get Mundine one of the writer's from like the Simpsons, who can tell him what to say so he just doesn't sound so moronic. He puts on a great performance, but yeah he definately needs work on his public speaking skills.
Plus he just regurgitates Ali sayings...
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You can kick the monkey all you want...but what do you do when he wakes up?
 
Richard Wilkins is the dickhead...
They asked him his opinion, and he gave it. He wasn't speaking on behalf of anyone, he's not a politician. Since when have australians not been allowed to give their own personal opinion when asked for it?
Let's face it, if someones opinion is withheld, doesn't that mean that those who oppose it are afraid of what is said because there is some truth to it?
We, as a whole, would benefit from hearing as many different viewpoints as possible. The more informed we are, the better our decisions will be. This shows that a lot of people don't want the "best" decisions, just those that benefit the usa ('coz they're always right
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Seriously, it is an insult to democracy to say he shouldn't say what he thinks! Quite sickening really... since when was freewill wrong?
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I disliked him before he made those comments. I'm sure a boxer is supposed to be all hype n shit to make people more interested in their fights like "yeh i'll be putting him on the floor no worries" n all that, but just listening to the way he goes about saying things is just annoying. He's way too cocky and he wont be a winner forever. When he gets beaten down like a bitch what will he be saying then? He's got talent but but others have more talent, he just hasn't realised that yet.
*does a backflip*
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he's not a dickhead just cos he's not afraid to speak his mind on political issues. that's one of his more commendable traits. and yes, i'm sure he was, to some extent, set up to make controversial statements on the Terrorist attacks on the US.
but he IS a dickhead because he belittles others in order to big-note himself. So what, he may be a talented boxer, and he may have been a talented league player. but in my book that doesn't give him the right to be an arrogant, self-absorbed fuck. other sporting stars who have done much more to prove themselves don't/didn't need to do it. he's a bad bloke and a bad role-model cos he's just a bad sport. Don Bradman, Herb Elliott, Kieran Perkins, Steve Waugh, Cathy Freeman, Dawn Fraser etc etc ad infinitum never needed to resort to the kind of public nonsense that Mundine regularly sinks to.
IMHO if he gets over himself and stops tripping over his inflated ego, then he can accomplish a lot more for himself and his people, because people might take him seriously. Bradman never needed to carry on like a spoilt child to get publicity, and if Mundine is all he cracks himself up to be then he shouldn't need it either.
yes, i still think he's a dickhead.
 
yeah well said..... same with bill and stylin....
but seriously.... anyone who's anyone is allowed to come out and say that it's okay to bomb the shit out of the afghanis (including innocent civilians) but as soon as someone said the americans brought it on themselves then whoa... everyone jumps on them....
i personally believe that the americans did bring it on themselves... and yes... mundine is a cockhead and i've never liked him but freedom of speech here peoples.... stylin it's so true how you said it's becoming like america in the 50s...
i nearly got hung the other day by trying to explain to some people that america are ultimately doing the wrong thing and have been for years.....
it just makes me so mad farken
 
Well said Bill and Stylin.
Mundine was asked his opinion or view. That's just what he answered. Whether what he said was good (what the yanks wanna hear) or bad (what the yanks don't wanna hear) doesn't matter, as it is his opinion.
I don't think he is a dickhead as I don't really know the guy, or pay much attention to his career. But I do respect the fact that he did not sugarcoat his answer.
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I felt a cleaving in my mind, as if my mind had split.
I tried to match it seam by seam, but could not make the fit.
The thought behind I strove to join, unto the thought before.
But sequence ravelled out of sound, like balls upon a floor.
 
No doubt I'll cop it for this....
* He's a boxer
* He was a rugby player
* He's aboriginal
...he can't help it!!!
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I didn't call him a dickhead because of his comments I've always thought he's a knob. I just don't like his attitude sure it might be beneficial for his career by creating more media hype and it might also just be the way he acts in front of cameras or crowds.
Either way it's a bad image he's creating for himself (imo) and I hope he gets smacked down by the next dude.
I probably didn't explain that as well as I could of but I'm sure you get my point. I think he's a wanker I've always though it and now you're all dumber for reading this.
*shrugs*
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Why is it so unthinkable to suggest that America has had some form of retalitory strike 'coming to them'?
they fuck around with the world and its polictics in so many ways and for so long, it was surely just a matter of time until someone launched an attack back.
-shrug- if it is wasn't gonna be the bin Ladens (of which i am still skeptical that it was - why do it and then not claim responsibility?) then it could have quite easily have been any number of other groups/countries who the USA has been fucking with for god knows how long.
Yes he's a dickhead, but surely not just for giving another view. Yes the people may have been innocent, but i think the US as a whole is not...
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The views I write are the views of Me, Myself and I.
 
richard wilkins realised he had a no brainer on his hands..and just reeled that sucker fish in..as mundine was digging his hole deeper and deeper..wilkins could have let him out.......and anyway...we DO live in a democracy..like his comments or not...everyone has the right to their own opinion..isnt that what america IS fighting for?
 
It's not unthinkable that the US could have forseen themselves as a target of terrorist aggression... but it's unthinkable to suggest that the victims deserved what happend.
Suggesting the former is often mistaken for the latter.
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Don't believe me? Then I guess we'll have to roshambo for it...
 
from ninemsn.com.au
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WBC strips Mundine of ranking for remarks
The World Boxing Council has stripped Anthony Mundine of his ranking over his comments about the September 11 terrorist attacks on the US.
Mundine, a Muslim, said on Monday the US brought the September 11 attacks upon itself by its past actions.
The former rugby league player later apologised for the comment.
Mundine was ranked 26th in the super middleweight division and the World Boxing Council says it's dropped him indefinitely.
WBC president Jose Sulaiman, speaking from Mexico, says they won't tolerate Mundine using his position in boxing to make such absurd and denigrating public statements.
Mundine is scheduled to fight International Boxing Federation super middleweight champion Sven Ottke in Dortmund, Germany on December 1.
IBF officials say the title fight will go ahead, but they've reserved the right to strip Mundine of the title at a later date, should he win it, and if he repeats his controversial statements.
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My god, how wrong is that? The guy has a right to free speech, and I don't care if he did think the victims deserved it, they have no right to strip him of his ranking and possibly the belt if he wins it!
Whatever you think of his comments, I don't beleive the WBC has any right to ban you for your beleifs. This has really outraged me, just because the guy can't express his beleifs eloquently, and his opinion isn't that of America, he can be stripped of his ranking and possibly his belt if he wins it, what a crock of bullshit.
If your gonna strip anyone, try Mike bloody tyson. He's raped women, said he's gonna eat a guy's children and ripped half an ear off holyfield, but he's still fighting for the belt!!!
Oh and cammac, thats a very racist comment and I think you should edit/ withdraw it. Consider yourself copped.
 
I think he's trying to be Mohommed Ali.
Unfortunately he's lived a life without any struggle. He's lived a life where he's had nothing but success in whot he's done.
He's got fuck all education, and he's 26 (ie not enough life experience, considering he's been thru nothing but silver spoons)
Unfortunately he's too stupid to realise he's a dumbass.
I believe he has every right to think what he said, I happen to agree with a lot of it. But when you're in his position, common sense would tell you not to publicly express it.
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Mr. Mundine is not a very articulate man. He may not be that smart. He definitely does not know how to use the media properly. And after seeing a few of his matches i'm still not convinced he's a good boxer.
But i have read/seen a couple of articles/ interviews with him and he's also not that dumb. It's quite appalling how much was made of him saying he could be better than Bradman. Maybe he could. Sure it's arrogant, but Bradman was being mentioned in the media that week and when trying to come up with a sportsman to compare himself tothat was pro'lly first name he comes up with.
Now it seems if a reporter wants controversy, they ask Mr. Mundine a question, rip out the few words that sound worst, and they watch the shit fly.
Entrapment comes to mind.
As for stripping him of his titles; the boxing authorities are running scared after several deaths/ serious injuries in the last year or so. They have, hopefully, over-reacted and it is not an indicator of coming censorship.
I really am hoping so.
 
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