Bupe Another Taper Question, Subs Not Lasting Whole Day

[chinacat311]

Hey everybody, I have been a long time member of the site, but due to the fact I have been on Methadone and Subutex for the last three or so years I haven't been posting much recently. Short background: I used IV heroin for about 6 years, using tar and powder, varying quantities. About three years ago, I got off the heroin, and went on 135mg of Methadone daily for a couple years (too high, I know). Tapered down to 30mg, but couldn't go lower, so I switched to Subutex about 8 months ago to continue the taper more comfortably.

I started on about 10mg of Sub a day (again, probably too much), but was able to get down to 2mg very easily. For the past couple months I have been slowly approaching about 1mg a day. Right now, I take about .5mg at 10am and .5mg at 10pm, for a total of 1mg a day. I want to continue the taper, but my problem is now that this .5mg I take at 10am doesn't get me through the 12 hours to my nighttime dose- I usually start feeling the withdrawal come on by 6pm or so, only eight hours after my dose. Same thing in the mornings, I wake up early feeling the sickness coming on a couple hours before my next scheduled dose. The obvious answer (to me anyway) was to split up my 1mg into 1/4s, and dose every 6 hours, but that didn't work at all. And I don't have what it takes to jump off completely from 1mg a day, so I need some suggestions. Has anyone had similar experiences, where at a certain point the Subs just don't hold you for the whole day? If so, how did you continue the taper? I keep hearing stories of people tapering down to .25 or .125mg a day, and I want to get there, but as its going now that's going to be very difficult for me... help me out bluelight.

 

[Opidopecake]

What I used to do was take that amount for a super long time, until my body became more accustomed to it. The key is tapering super slow, too quickly and your gonna feel the effects of wd. That is what worked for me. I hope that this helps you out a bit. Don't be afraid to keep your dose higher for a bit longer, slowly taper and your more likely to not fuck up and use. GOOD LUCK

 

[chinacat311]

Yeah the problem is that I have been at this dose for a while (many weeks), and I'm just not getting used to it.. I thought I would eventually, but it's not happening. So I've been stalled at 1mg a day for almost a month without being able to go down any further without a lot of discomfort.

 

[The Doc.]

Yea your gonna have some discomfort usually under 2mg. The best thing to do is to split the dose to 2 times or 3 times that worked for me just give it a couple days to get accustomed to those smaller doses nore frequently you have to feel a bit of pain when tapering its part of the process its not fun there will be some discomfort.