Aniracetam Eliminates Eye-Floaters

[cryptix420]

Just something interesting I noticed while taking a regimen of 1500mg aniracetam/300mg alpha gpc a day for a couple weeks. Could be useful for a lot of people here with HPPD.

Has a lot of interesting effects visually actually. GREATLY enhances color saturation, and makes it feel like you just process visual stimuli much more quickly.

The cool thing is it's theorized that there's long-term potentiation, as in even after you stop taking it the positive benefits persist; I can personally attest this is true. It's only been a couple days since I've taken it, but I still feel the clarity and general ease of existence that it affords me.

 

[rollingstoned!]

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[Altered Carbon]

Eye-floaters: you mean the impurities in the vitreous humor?

 

[cegli]

Eye-floaters: you mean the impurities in the vitreous humor?

Yes, that's what he's talking about. I find this interesting as someone who has waaaay more floaters than I used to have before I started my psychedelic adventure. I'm sure I don't physically have more floaters than I used to have, it just seems my brain can't filter them out as well as it used to. It has gotten better with time and doesn't bother me anymore, but it'd be interesting if other people agree, or if any studies back this up.

 

[cryptix420]

I don't know when you're going to start seeing any good studies on this stuff, much less about it's relation to eye floaters, or as our friend Altered Carbon so eloquently put it, "the impurities in the vitreous humor". The only good research that's going to be done anytime soon is by YOU.

Aniracetam seems to make my life much more simple. For example, before I began taking it, if I was in a public place and had to pee I would get very anxious. Now, I have the thought once and then it goes away, along with the physical urge. It keeps a lot of body functions in check, like body temp. It acts on the 5-ht2 receptor which does control body temp regulation. It's some seriously crazy stuff with a ton of subtle quality of life enhancing benefits.

 

[i are spectre]

how would something eliminate eye floaters? where would they go?

eye floaters are by-products of our helper leukocytes destroying harmful and non-harmful bacteria/waste material in the vitreous body.

that's like saying compound x eliminates urine or poop.

 

[Hammilton]

I've seen people scared shitless from too much LSD...

 

[cryptix420]

how would something eliminate eye floaters? where would they go?

eye floaters are by-products of our helper leukocytes destroying harmful and non-harmful bacteria/waste material in the vitreous body.

that's like saying compound x eliminates urine or poop.

I'm not gonna pretend like I'm an expert scientist with all the knowledge here, but I have done a fair bit of reading as well as an extensive amount of testing the substance on myself. I am very aware of my mind and senses at all times. I have fun when I'm out on my walks just looking at lights or the sun or whatever and then playing with the bright spot left in my vision. Like closing my eyes and seeing how the spot slowly fades. Well I've done all that stuff for a while, really since I've started tripping and become interested in the inner workings of the brain, especially the visual processing center.

I don't know exactly how it gets rid of them...but it does. It's part of what makes the sky and nature so beautiful just to look at while on aniracetam. Everything is so clear and crisp and broad that it looks like a painting. No visual crap in the way (floaties, static, etc)




Plus, I've taken this stuff with LSD before and I swear it shortened the duration of the trip. It was more like almost back to baseline in 7 hours instead of the usual 8-10 I experience. Just makes it seem like aniracetam really does lube your brain up, letting every signal and transmission to happen with much more ease.


Aniracetam just makes life SIMPLE.


check it out from wiki..here's all the biological processes of the 5ht2a receptor (the one on which aniracetam works, among a couple others)

• temperature homeostasis
• phosphatidylinositol biosynthetic process
• response to stress
• activation of phospholipase C activity by serotonin receptor signaling pathway
• serotonin receptor signaling pathway
• synaptic transmission
• aging
• memory
• cell death
• positive regulation of cell proliferation
• regulation of dopamine secretion
• phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase cascade
• sensory perception of pain
• sleep
• response to drug
• negative regulation of potassium ion transport
• positive regulation of MAP kinase activity
• positive regulation of vasoconstriction
• release of sequestered calcium ion into cytosol
• release of sequestered calcium ion into cytosol
• negative regulation of synaptic transmission, glutamatergic
• ERK1 and ERK2 cascade


So you could see why aniracetam could give life a more simple feeling if it's regulating all those functions.

 

[nAON]

No-ones doubting what 5-HT does, but rather, the racetams as a whole aren't exactly a well understood or particularly well researched class of drugs.

 

[cegli]

how would something eliminate eye floaters? where would they go?

eye floaters are by-products of our helper leukocytes destroying harmful and non-harmful bacteria/waste material in the vitreous body.

that's like saying compound x eliminates urine or poop.

As I said above, the method of action wouldn't be physically eliminating the floaters themselves, it would be enhancing the brains ability to filter them out. In normal operation our brains do a lot of filtering on our eye's image. It filters out floaters, the blue field entoptic phenomenon, flips the image upside down, etc.

I have witnessed personally my brain's ability to do such filtering lessen (probably due to the combined effect of stress and psychedelics, or just bad luck), and have also had personal success in increasing it again with levetiracetam and time. It's possible that aniracetam could do this also. There is a lot pharmacologicaly happening with the racetams and visual filtering that we don't understand yet.

 

[i are spectre]

there's a difference between "eliminating eye floaters" and "eliminating perception of eye floaters".

glad everything is cleared up now, except for the title of this thread.

 

[Coolwhip]

how would something eliminate eye floaters? where would they go?

eye floaters are by-products of our helper leukocytes destroying harmful and non-harmful bacteria/waste material in the vitreous body.

that's like saying compound x eliminates urine or poop.

Yeah, they are called laxatives and diuretics....lol j/k

But seriously. I am sure he just means he can't see them.

edit: sorry, replied before reading the whole thread.

 

[slayerbizkit]

Sounds promising. I started seeing floaters in my vision and "static" at night ever since I experimented once with 6-APB. Been taking piracetam to help with studying but I might throw some aniracetam into the mix. Floaters are ****ing annoying!

 

[psood0nym]

Floaters and the blue light entopic phenomon are distinct from HPPD symptoms, are they not? Both of them involve seeing actual matter in the eye (whether its shadows cast by blood cells or other bio detritus or blue light reflections from white blood cells), whereas something like visual static or persistent geometric patterning involves some sort of errant perceptual processing theorized to have gone awry as a result of drug effects. In other words, it is totally common to see floaters or the blue light entopic phenomenon whether you've used drugs or not. If aniracetam eliminates both visual static and the perception of floaters it likely does so through acting on two very different mechanisms, which would be ... odd.

 

[cegli]

I feel they are much more related than many people think. There was definitely a linear correlation between the amount of static in my vision, and how intense the floaters and blue light entopic phenomenon was. For instance, at its peak, I couldn't even look at a computer monitor without seeing about 5-6 floaters on the screen at all times. I also couldn't look at the sky without seeing the blue light entopic phenomenon instantly. I definitely could see floaters before, but my brain filtered them waaaay better.

Increased static/trails/etc also correlated directly with the amount of floaters. Anyway, with time (and it's possible levetiracetam helped) they all subsided again, and here I am staring at a computer monitor without seeing any floaters, and can look at the sky without seeing the blue light entopic phenom. Any disorder (like HPPD) has a wide variety of symptoms and causes so your mileage may vary.

 

[psood0nym]

^How are you conceptualizing visual static so as to relate it linearly with floaters? I'm thinking you're thinking something like this: "For every one unit decrease in visual static distortion (whatever that consists of) there are X number less floaters in my vision?".... It seems like maybe what you're referring to is the degree of sensitivity you have to perceiving visual events, be they floaters or perceptual processing artifacts, that are non-functional to your desired perception? You feel levetiracetam (or whatever 'etam) helps you filter out those visual occurrences you don't want to see, whatever their origin, correct?

How do you think taking levetiracetam accomplishes this filtering task?

 

[i are spectre]

i really don't see how this is possible. if you don't see the eye floaters then you're not in the right light.

there's nothing big enough in the eyeball to totally breakdown an eye floater into soluble amino acids/ions/etc.

 

[Coolwhip]

Your brain is actively filtering floaters and entoptic phenomenon all the time, if your brain wasn't actively filtering them you would see LOTS of them, in any light, but especially under conditions where they become more visible. As is, certain scenarios cause the artifacts to overcome/bypass the brains active filtering.

I am not saying this IS happening, or that racetams even act on the right areas of the brain/CNS, but I could definitely see how an exogenous substance could affect optic filtering(although I would think it more likely that a substance would prevent filtering rather than enhance it) Perhaps by exerting some affect on the action potentials of ganglion cells in the retina?

I mean how do you expain the visual distortion caused by tryptamines? Surely no explanation involves matter in the eyeball. It's no secret that exogenous substances can exert a great effect on our visual perception and processing.

 

[ProducedRaw]

Recently started taking Aniracetam and it has eliminated my perception of eye floaters. My vision is generally more clear.

...Aaaand I finally get bluelighter status. Only 5 years after joining! This must be a record. I want a medal for it.

 

[cegli]

^How are you conceptualizing visual static so as to relate it linearly with floaters? I'm thinking you're thinking something like this: "For every one unit decrease in visual static distortion (whatever that consists of) there are X number less floaters in my vision?".... It seems like maybe what you're referring to is the degree of sensitivity you have to perceiving visual events, be they floaters or perceptual processing artifacts, that are non-functional to your desired perception? You feel levetiracetam (or whatever 'etam) helps you filter out those visual occurrences you don't want to see, whatever their origin, correct?

How do you think taking levetiracetam accomplishes this filtering task?

Yes, that's basically what I'm talking about. I'm not sure how levetiracetam accomplishes this. The reason I tried was seeing that many people had success on a visual snow forum and a HPPD forum. It seemed to help me as well. I tried to look up how levetiracetam works back in the day, but we knew very little about what it actually does in the brain.

i really don't see how this is possible. if you don't see the eye floaters then you're not in the right light.

there's nothing big enough in the eyeball to totally breakdown an eye floater into soluble amino acids/ions/etc.

We are all in agreement on this. No one thinks this actually breaks down a floater in your eye, we think it effects the way your brain filters your vision.

Recently started taking Aniracetam and it has eliminated my perception of eye floaters. My vision is generally more clear.

...Aaaand I finally get bluelighter status. Only 5 years after joining! This must be a record. I want a medal for it.

That's very interesting, I wish we understood fully how how the racetams worked.