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An Important Message From The Bunk Police

even if you ask them IS THIS MDMA?
they will tell you it is, simply because they know you'll buy it.

it's quite fucked up IMO




The bunk police should just straight up knock their faux-molly onto the ground.


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Just found out people are selling the other 2c's as 2c-B around here also.
just something to note.
 
Delsyd too bad you didn't think about creating the "bath salts" yourself since you said you have been using methylone and mephedrone for so long...

Personally I have never tried any RCs..back when I was in my "drug phase" and by that I mean I was Willi g to try just about anything that could get you high...I never got into the whole E scene cause the time I started experimenting in highschool (2002-2003) the big rave scene of the late 90s just passed and that's when the media and everyone really was talkin about how bad it is and how you could die from just one bad pill and that was the same time MTV did the truelife on it and showed this girl with all these holes in her brain from eatin too many pills and all the other BS..and ill tell you what it worked I was one of the last people I know who at the time tried it X..and when I did try it, I didn't really like it.. I'm not a uppy, dancy type and the pills did that too me and I didn't like it then and still don't like it and then the next you sit there grindin your teeth thinking about everything and blah..so i fouind It wasn't my type of drugs but i did it everynow and then when a couple girls gettin down and the last time I did rolls I tripped balls and freaked myself out over it cause I didn't expect it and bring so unprepared it wasn't good and with it I stopped using hallucinogenic drugs cause it was the first time I had a bad trip (and I tripped a lot with boomers) and didn't want it to happen again..

So with that I kinda freaked myself out and swore to myself I would never eat rolls again and then I tried booms 2more time cause peer pressure is a bitch..and the last time I had some really good ones and it was a bad trip again..so I promised myself I'd never eat anything that could possibly make me hallucinate and trip.. And I blame it on the rolls cause up until that point I never had a bad trip out of maybe 15 or 20times trippin and then after the good?/bad? pills every trip was bad..so I stay far from anyhting that might cause me to ha;llucinate..so thats why i never tried RCs
 
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it certainly isnt for everyone.
I can completely uunderstand where youre coming from.
I still use these types of drugs (MDxx, Methylne, mephedrone), though much less than i used to. Maybe 3 or 4 times a year. But my gf, like you, just doesnt do drugs like hat anymore. She like her downers, hehe :)

As far as me beating everyone to the punch on the bath salt thing. I really wasnt the only one enjoying this stuff for years. And the general rule amongst the group using RC's was to try to keep these things off the radar so they can be available. Also to not sell misrepresented things. LIke DO'x as acid or 2c's as mescaline and shit like that. Though it did happen from time to time it wasnt as big a problem as whats happening with the ecstasy type drugs now. But it was inevitable that their popularity would grow and people in it for a buck wil do shady shit and ruin it for the rest of us.

The place it really started going down hill at first is due to branded pills and powders becoming very popular in Europe due to a lack of real MDMA that they were having. Some of these drugs feel great and are easily abusable, and in this case easily available. They started getting lots of media attention there because kids and irresponsible people were doing stupid shit it on it and with it. The majority of users were not your informed BL'r type. So a couple years later it became illegal there. Just as it became illegal there a lot of head shops in the US started carrying these branded pills and powder as well. Sometimes with the same brand as stuff as sold in Europe.
Due to the internet and kids seeing these party powder in their head shops and gas stations it became very popular here. Making the news many times, sometimes the stories sounded like bullshit but others were true. People really do lose their shit MDPV. So soon, id say within a year or two they will be schedule 1 drugs here also.
 
yeah man fuck the uppers ive never even tried adderal or ritilin thats how much i hate being up..coke is the only thing i do

them bathsalts i thought was weird and never tried cause i thought, who the fucks snorts something they get from the pipeshop? smoking sure im on probation and need to smoke that shit for 2weeks every month..its not the real thing but the shit is good enough..but snorting is something you equate to using illegal drugs and you want me tp snprt this shit from the gas station?

so i checked it on youtube and saw kids freaking out on it and i was like yeah fuck that especially by myself with no one to watch me..
 
Delsyd said:
perhaps Molly will become a term synonymous with ecstasy type drugs whether theyre MDMA or not.
Maybe we need to be specific and demand MDMA.
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This.

We need to stop using slang terms when asking for drugs. Want MDMA ask for MDMA; want 4-MMC, ask for 4-MMC.

Most dealers don't know the acronyms, but you can do your own field testing without lugging a testing kit with you. Just get to know the look and smell of your common clandestine produced MDMA; it's off-white to brown with a characteristic smell of black licorice. Obviously completely pure MDMA is snow white and odorless but any real MDMA you're likely to encounter in the average drug market is going to be like I described.

Same goes for other drugs, just get to know physical characteristics of your desired drug and it will help discern it from all the other crap.
 
I guess the Bunk Police are doing a good thing. I've seen them at a couple festivals this year.

But I wish they would state more accurately what substances are being sold as "molly" (instead of saying "bath salts"... which means nothing).

Also the description of DOC as a "dark psychedelic" with dire consequences is rediculous. Of course it shouldn't be sold as LSD, but there's no need for the Bunk Police to demonize what IMO is easily one of the Top 5 best psychedelic drugs.

Also, I haven't been "bunked" at a show or festival since... oh... 2004? People should take it upon themselves to be able to detect what are usually pretty obviously fake or adultered substances. Don't buy acid from random wooks or shady flat brimmed lot kids. Smell and taste any molly before you eat it.

I personally encourage a wide range of psychedelics to be available at festivals-- as long as they are accurately described-- and unfortunately the Bunk Police are helping demonize some great drugs. Perhaps these drugs should only be shared in close circles anyway.

/end rant
 
bluedolphin said:
Also the description of DOC as a "dark psychedelic" with dire consequences is rediculous. Of course it shouldn't be sold as LSD, but there's no need for the Bunk Police to demonize what IMO is easily one of the Top 5 best psychedelic drugs.
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Perhaps these drugs should only be shared in close circles anyway.

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I think bath salts is just a general term for these new ecstasy drugs. I know that i have a few frinds who have no idea what methylone is but if i tell em its bath salts they have no qualms about taking it.

IMO DOC is a dirty drug like the rest of the DOx's. It all comes down to opinion though.

I fully agree with your last sentence about these drugs staying in close circles. Its just better off that way and less likely to become illegal.
I liked it 10 years ago when buying RC's felt like you were in some secret club (*cough* RCDG *cough*)
 
^ buying RCs felt like a secret club just two years ago imo, lol.

I prefer to keep it off in closed circles as well. I know plenty of people that sell RCs off as their street drug counter-parts.

Regardless it's fantastic that someone has taken the time to set up testing booths. This is some great HR.
 
It was definitely not as main stream 2 years ago. Shit, I remember buying jwh 018 for 5 times what it is worth now in 2007, and I was happy to pay it because it was so rare and new. But after the disaster with mephedrone in Europe a couple years back it was to be expected that it would hit our shores.
 
just the other weekend I was at a small festival in michigan and people were walking around selling methedrone and 2C-E, a friend came to my campsite with beer bottle cap with some off white powder that he insisted was "methazone" at least some people are being more upfront about what they're selling. dancesafe was at the festival, doing tests for $2 donations i believe, i didn't really see many people getting tests done but the most time i spent at the dancesafe tent was to use their grill on some bratwursts for lunch :)
 
last year at bonnaroo I tested 5 different grams of "molly"........and they all tested good. But this year unfortunately I didnt bring my tester and got bunked once.......And scored some good once.....
 
...remembering back to the late 90's when DanceSafe started setting up tables at parties and seeing all the great work that they were doing... ahhh, the memories!

Now seeing the Bunk Police in action is awesome and is something the party/festival scene needs more than ever, thanks to the RC scene splitting wide open and spilling cheap and incomplete synths all over the place...

I must be one lucky person, I would always be able to source before the event. If I met someone at the event and made friends, great, but the trust in the new friend would always come after the event and before using them as a new source. Now, I'd be lying if i said i always turned down a stick of the weed if it was being passed to me and they answered "no" to "is it more than herb?"...

Anyhoo, Awesome work the Bunk Police are doing, keep it up, you are saving lives, without a doubt!
 
i just wanted to give this a bump. The guys are getting more attention as of recently.
And they have started their own site:

http://bunkpolice.org/
and a recent interview:
Interview: “The Bunk Police” Testing Drugs at Music Festivals
September 1st, 2011 | Jonathan Perri | Comments

A group of festival goers calling themselves the Bunk Police are on a mission to test the purity of illegal drugs being sold on the shakedown streets of music festivals around the country. They're finding that more often than not, things are not what they seem. From the Bunk Police website:

Since the inception of our group in June, we have tested over 2,500 substance samples presented to us by patrons of music festivals and concerts.

The results have been truly sobering.

Nearly 100% of samples are cut with one or more substances, and they aren’t using baking soda anymore.

Research chemicals, sold as “bath salts” or “plant food,” have become an alarming issue. Over half of “Molly” (MDMA powder) samples tested at Wakarusa, Bonnaroo, Electric Forest, Camp Bisco, Gathering of the Vibes and The Big Up contained large quantities of or were completely comprised of these substances. Many of these “research chemicals” present very real overdose fatality risks and have been in news all over the world.

An overwhelming majority of tested LSD samples were negative for the chemical.

Despite the fact that being in possession of illegal drugs can result in lengthy prison sentences, the Bunk Police claim they are not doing anything illegal and "have a very methodical process that does not involve possession by our staff." They have a lawyer and are branding their message and organization. The group has a logo, website with a schedule, and a Facebook Page where you can find results from festival testing or vote on where you'd like to see them next. You can even call/text them at (512) 200-BUNK.

I had a chance to chat with the Bunk Police (anonymously and through email) about what they're doing.

HeadCount: Why did you decide to start the Bunk Police and what are you trying to accomplish?

Bunk Police: The Bunk Police started... at the Wakarusa music festival. While packing for the weekend, I decided to purchase a Marquis substance screening kit (a very useful test that screens over a dozen substances). In using this kit, we not only discovered the appalling state of the current underground substance market, but also realized that there is an incredible demand for substance testing services at shows and festivals.

Our intention is to distribute testing kits to as many people as possible, and to educate them about the use of these kits. We have recently launched an interactive website at www.bunkpolice.org that will feature online ordering and instructional videos in the near future.

Once you test a drug and find it's impure, how do you get that information out?

The first step we take is to inform the person who brought the sample to us about its contents. Although we can’t control what people do with their negative results, a good amount of patrons will return to the person that provided the substance and give them feedback. In many cases, we’ll see the same sample multiple times, eventually leading to the provider being forced to stop distributing that substance. At smaller festivals, the impact of our services can be substantial. The Big Up is a good example. We watched the ratio of adulterated to pure substances improve dramatically over the course of the event. In the future, our group hopes to send out updates and warnings (with links to pictures) through either a Twitter or a text-based system.

Do you think music festivals should embrace this type of harm reduction practice?

Absolutely. In the last few years, the underground substance market has been turned upside down by a series of substances known as “research chemicals.” These chemicals, such as Methylone and 25I-NBOMe, are being substituted for common recreational substances, MDMA and LSD being the most common. The dosages and effects of these new (relatively un-researched) substances are substantially different from the ones they are posing as and have led to both short and long term damage in users. Another issue to consider is that the market is so flooded with these RCs in disguise that many frequent users are under the impression that they have a tolerance to something like MDMA, when in fact they have a tolerance to Methylone. This leads to massive overdoses when this user comes in contact with a legitimate MDMA sample.

Have you heard of Boom Festival in Portugal? It's an event with more than 30,000 people, completely free of corporate sponsors, and because drug use is decriminalized throughout the country, testing of drugs being used/sold onsite is allowed and results, along with images, are displayed with a projector for all to see. Could such a thing be possible here in the U.S.?

I am not familiar with this particular festival, but it sounds like quite a groundbreaking event. I am, however, very familiar with the legal system that exists in Portugal. In my opinion, they are leading the world in a positive direction as far as dealing with substance use and abuse is concerned. In regards to the possibility of an event like this happening in the U.S., all I can say is that we’re taking the first baby steps in that direction.

What has been your most startling find? Where was it?

Well, we had a very inebriated gentleman walk into our tent at Electric Forest with a sample of what he called “Charlie Sheen.” In testing this mystery substance, we realized that “Charlie Sheen” was not a single chemical, but somewhere in the neighborhood of five. We were able to isolate Ketamine, MDMA, Methylone, a 2C-(x) compound and some sort of opiate. Let’s just say the guy who came in with it was definitely not “winning” at anything.

It seems like the harms associated with most of these drugs, like MDMA or LSD for example, can be greatly reduced when available in pure form and also when information on dosages and combinations is provided. Would you agree?

I think you’re absolutely right. The key to reducing injuries and deaths related to substance use is to simply inform the users of the content, effects, dosages and dangers, be it anything from cigarettes to heroin.

Don't you think what you're doing will actually encourage more drug use?

This is a very valid question, one that I’ve struggled with since the inception of our group. In the end, I’ve come to the conclusion that our services actually work as a deterrent, and here’s why: the information that we’re gathering and distributing about the substance market is beyond shocking. Well over half of the samples we’ve received are Research Chemicals instead of popular recreational substances. For many users, this can be a bitter pill to swallow. ;-)

I'm always surprised at how little so many people on the festival scene seem to know about the drugs they're consuming. Do you think they're actually disinterested in learning about this stuff, or that the information just isn't there?

Many members of the festival culture are extremely skeptical of anything presented to them, so we have to earn their trust. The vast majority of people are very interested in our findings once they realize that we have a methodical process that produces accurate results. People will often stand around our tent watching us test for hours completely aghast at the results we’re finding.

Do you think policy changes need to happen? If so, what?

I can only hope that our society finds a better option than the current “war on drugs.” As far as what needs to happen, it’s hard to say. Portugal is an excellent success story to take note of.
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While I completely agree with the need that the bunk police are trying to fill, I have to raise some concerns about them as an organization. I "liked" them on facebook as soon as I heard about them, back when they were suggesting they had found Alex Grey prints that were 25I-NBOMe. I figured it would be a good way to keep tabs on developments regarding that claim, because a lot of us (myself included) have seen that print all over the place for over a year now.

Anyway, they've done some really questionable stuff on their facebook page that leads me to question the integrity and the intelligence of whoever is behind the wheel of this thing. For one, they recently posted a link to a methylone vendor (on fucking facebook for chrissakes) as a way of "outing" somebody who they thought was perpetuating the practice of passing methylone off as mdma, simply because they vended it. Several people challenged them on this. Their response was that they saw methylone as a dangerous drug capable of inducing amphetamine psychosis, while implying mdma is a better option. Clearly, they know nothing about methylone, and they probably should considering what they're trying to do for the scene. A lot of people seemed to chime in and blindly support them, all of whom came off like serious e-tards and just the type of people who probably need a service like the bunk police in the first place because they go to fests and buy drugs with reckless abandon. People who claim to know what they're talking about simply because they've gobbled a ton of pills, and not because they have any actual understanding of the drugs involved. To this day they haven't taken down the link to the vendor.

Today they posted about how they called the houston poison control center and faked various scenarios where the caller's "son" had taken various drugs. It's sort of funny, if you're 15 years old and you have no qualms congesting an emergency service for your entertainment. I'm just starting to wonder if these are people who we should trust to be knowledgeable about drugs. I'm happy if they're showing up to fests and running tests and pills and powders, more power to them. But frankly, they kind of sound like idiots on a human level. And their whole organization becomes unnecessary if people simply followed one simple mantra: know your source.
 
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^But the fact is people do go to festivals and buy drugs from strangers so a service like they provide is pretty necessary especially with how popular and widespread methylone and mephedrone are becoming.
I mean i love methylone but if im looking for MDMA and paying 10x as much for MDMA than i expect to get MDMA.

As for the source thing, maybe 4 or 5 years ago when sources were more exclusive, having it posted on facebook would have pissed me off, but now its a simple as typing an RC name into google or even youtube and you'll get a bunch of links for people selling RC's. On youtube sources have videos saying how bath salts make girls so horny.

The main goal of this group is harm reduction by helping people identify misrepresented substances, not talking down on RC's.
As for the Alex Grey's being 25i-nbome, i dont know how they came to that conclusion, maybe they were just assuming since there is 25c and 25i NBOMe, aswell as DOI and DOC being sold on blotter by RC vendors, but they are being sold as such.
Ofcourse anyone can than go ahead and sell it as acid. But yeh, not sure why they assumed 25i for the Alex Greys.
 
Yeah I read through some of their exploits.

Their intentions are pure, but the things they do are completely immature. Certainly would like to see a higher degree of professionalism.

They seem to run on this misguided notation that methylone kills people. When it's hyperthermia & serotonin syndrome from speed bombs or PMA/PMMA combinations with MDMA.
 
^I agree.
for some killer ecstasy we can look across the pond to Eurpoe where the E=mc2/ Einstein pills, which ive read are a MDMA and PMA combo, really are killing people.
Im actually not sure if there has been any deaths attributed to methylone. None that i can recall other than some sensationalist bullshit about kids ripping off their nutsacks and what not.
 
The guy I knew who died at EDC dallas 2011 was killed on 3 pills of E.

My friend said he took 2 weak pills and 1 "STRONG" pill and it killed him.

Well, my best guess is that the strong pill was PMA. Chemists who are selling PMA as MDMA should be charged with manslaughter and brought to justice. If they have the ability to make it, they likely know by now what damage it does.
 
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