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Stimulants An amp question

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Phenethylamine420

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Ok so i have 30 mg Adderall XR, I took the beads out crushed them into a fine powder and put back inside the capsule. Is it okay to mix this with Concerta 36mg and will that make it more euphoric? Also if anyone knows how to get the most euphoria out of what i have please tell. Thanks.
 
uhh
you crushed ti already, snort it, dont take it orally
DONT mix the two, the effects will be less cause Concerta works by inhibiting the breakdown of dopamine, and amp works by releasing dopamine en masse
if i were you, and ive doen me lots of amps, id just snort the adderall, concerta SRSLY is a SHIT stim
 
Ive heard if you can get the methylphenidate out of the concerta and crush that and snort it is similiar to cocaine. Is this true?
 
Harm reduction forum, we are not here to tell you how to get fucked up. Call me minimod I don't care ^.^
 
Phenethylamine420 said:
Im basically asking what the ROA would have the greatest bio-availability.
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Bioavailability has nothing to do with getting high. That's a term they use when they apply a therapy treatment on a patient. You want to talk about absorption rate when you talk about getting high.

In other words, 5 mg absorbed in 30 seconds is better than 30mg absorbed over 6 hours.
 
What about 30mg absorbed in 30 seconds, or is that harmful? cause that would probably need to be insulffated but then you risk damage from the wax coating and binders which sounds bad. I wish there was a way to remove the binders and such.
 
Phenethylamine420 said:
What about 30mg absorbed in 30 seconds, or is that harmful? cause that would probably need to be insulffated but then you risk damage from the wax coating and binders which sounds bad. I wish there was a way to remove the binders and such.
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K got home so I'll explain this to you:

Amphetamine has a pKa of 9.8. This means that it's a soft base. If the substance is placed in a solution with a pH = 9.8, half of it will be neutral. If however, the pH of the solution is acidic, most of the amphetamine will be protonated, meaning it has a positive charge. For a substance to be absorbed through stomach and intestines it needs to be neutral.

Using Henderson Hasselbalch equation:



Let's say your [A-] is 10^-9M and your [HA] is 0.1M, you have:

pH = 9.8 + log(10^-9/0.1) = 1.8

It means that 10^-9M are neutral and 0.1M protonated. As soon as some of the 10^-9M starts being absorbed, the equilibrium shifts towards the creation of A- because you need to keep the ratio constant. Because 10^-9M is a small amount, the rate of absorption is low.

Now if you take antacids and somehow make your stomach pH = 6, then:

6 = 9.8 + log([A-]/[HA])
log([A-]/[HA]) = -3.8
[A-]/[HA] = 10^-3.8

[A-]/[HA] = 0.000158
[A-]+[HA] = 0.1mol

[HA] = 0.1 - [A-]

substitute:

[A-]/(0.1 - [A-]) = 0.000158
[A-] = 0.000158(0.1 - [A-])
[A-] = 0.0000158 - 0.000158[A-]
[A-] - 0.000158[A-] = 0.0000158
[A-](1-0.000158) = 0.0000158
[A-] = 0.0000158/(1-0.000158)
[A-] = 1.58 x 10^-5M

The concentration of neutral amphetamine is 15,800x greater so imagine what the absorbtion is like.


That is before amphetamine goes in the blood. Once it's in the blood it's a different story. The molecule has to stay neutral to pass the blood brain barrier. That's something else. If your blood is too acidic, some amphetamine never reaches the brain and is excreted, it's probably what you call ''destroyed''.
 
so would 30mg of adderall plus the baking soda (how much exactly?) be life threatening? cause i really dont want to overdose.
 
Thank you for the info Ksa, i will try and keep things posted, but i am doing this tommoro morning after a nice long sleep and a good breakfast otherwise i will feel like shit all day lol.
 
It will be a very pleasant rush that will tingle your brain with euphoria. The first time I took adderall, I took 45mg IR, it was easily one the best highs and most euphoric I have ever been, better than cocaine, heroin, and comparable to MDMA on the come up.
 
I smoked some weed during the come-up and it is making everything feel so great, my forehead area is tingling with hot/cold sensation. overall feels great.
 
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