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AMT (75mg) and Methylone (25g) - Semi-Experienced - "Off the Rails"

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Yep, that's 25 grams of methylone there, not 25mg.

To start:

Day 1:

9PM. 75mg of AMT is ingested (initially thought to be 50mg), and the wait begins.

11PM. 250mg of methylone is ingested in solution to add a bit of speediness to the the AMT. After five minutes, vomiting occurs. Never mind, says the subject - a few minutes are waited, and another 250mg methylone solution consumed.

11:30PM. Feeling quite good, but rather intense. Companion requests 0.5mg of phenazepam to calm things down, subject declines.

12:30PM. Things are far more "monged" than they should be. It is guessed that more AMT has been consumed than estimated. Subject consumes 1mg of phenazepam along with an additional 1mg for companion.

2:00AM Subject and companion redose with 250mg methylone in solution. Things begin to get weird.

3:00AM-8:00AM Subject begins secretly redosing with methylone without informing companion, atypical behavior.

(Day 2)

10:00AM: Companion goes to bed, subject continues methylone redosing and possible phenazepam dosing.

6:00PM: Companion awakes, finds motor control poor (phenazepam?) Is concerned with subject. Both redose with methylone.

(this period unclear)

Day 3

7:00PM: Things have gotten odd. Companion wakes to find herself with little motor control (suspect excessive phenzazepam consumption) and subject has poor coordination as well. Subject has barricaded himself in a makeshift fort of blankets and cushions, and continues redosing methylone every 45 minutes to hour. Refuses to leave, companion has regained some sobriety so is concerned.

2:00AM: Subject eventually leaves fort after 25gm bag of methylone is gone.

2:30AM: Subject has prepared 30 to 40 flowers made from glow sticks and connectors. Informs companion he is going to throw them into the crowd next door dancing in the parking lot, and asks her to check his work to make sure the dancers are pleased.

Companion informs subject parking lot appears to be empty, with no outdoor dance occuring. Subject become livid, demands a camera to prove his case. Multiple pictures taken show an empty parking lot.

Subject realizes he is delusional and that this knowledge may not last. As much liquid nutrition and vitamins are consumed as possible, and subject heads to bed.

Subject wakes up 17 hours later feeling quite poor. No obvious damage is noted. It is easy to slip into depressive states, motivation is poor, but after a day of rest and nutrition no obvious damage seems to have occured.

Minor physical issues (ie yoga practice seems much more difficult but still doable) and mental abilities do not seem overly degraded.

Total estimated doses:
Subject: 75mg AMT, 24gm methylone, 10mg phenazepam
Companion: 75mg AMT, 1gm methylone, 15mg phenazepam

The subject appears to have dodged a fucking bullet with insanely excessive methylone consumption - could the benzodiazepine consumption contribute?
 
Twenty four grams? Well somebody will give you an earbashing for that, I'm sure, but it won't be me. I know how difficult it is to be objective when you're sitting on a large supply of something.

This is a good report to illustrate just how badly your mind can crash if you're not at least fairly reasonable with your consumption.
 
Gave a good earbashing myself, especially after having "party" stashes and "long term" stashes stored in different places with (supposedly) access methods which would dissuade the high subject.

My primary concern is any literature about high-dose methylone damage.
 
Well if you've escaped the dreaded serotonin syndrome, then I can't say you've got that much to worry about. Maybe some neurotoxicity, but the potential for damage there is low for a one-time binge.
 
And this would be of a magnitude comparable to binge-drinking for a few days vs Barry Kidson style Parkinson's neurotoxicity?
 
Subject has prepared 30 to 40 flowers made from glow sticks and connectors. Informs companion he is going to throw them into the crowd next door dancing in the parking lot, and asks her to check his work to make sure the dancers are pleased.

This made me lawl.
 
Don't use the word subject, please. It's no different as SWIM. If you are going to do something as asinine as use 25 grams of Methylone, own up to it. Are you trying to become another statistic? Why would you even use that much Methylone? Every death equated with drugs is a win with the government.
 
I'd disagree - it's quite different than SWIM, and much more readable as many of us may use it on a daily basis. If your concern is death, how would this death occur with this MOA, and how did the subject avoid it or any apparent damage absent a crappy comedown?
 
Well aware the use of SWIM provides legal protection to the site OWNER, not the poster. Simply familiar with writing in this manner for reports - and you "drag it out" theory seems as good as any. Appreciated.
 
OP- you are as well writing first person (or thereabouts!) on BL.
It is possible to binge in extremis with M1. A couple of months back, I did so with 10grams over two weeks. The high was diminished each day, although there was something still pleasant about it when it hit. The stimulant effect reduced and by the end of the first week I could sleep reasonably.
Psychologically, it was a mixed bag. Emotionally up and down, with some periods of melancholy that were strangely enjoyable in some twisted sense. I began to despise my weakness, and the obsessive patterns of behaviour which accompanied (Such as rushing to finish work and get back home to dose).
There was some creative drive which helped me produce some good music on the computer and with my bass/guitar. When the peak phase passed I would find the inspiration evaporating. Sometimes what had been created was crap, but several gems translated well from the euphoric crucible.
I noticed my patience shortening at work, and I spent less quality time with my better half. I also neglected my diet. My appetite was often suppressed and I had to will myself to eat much at all. By the middle of weak two, my immune system gave me the bird and I went down with heavy flu like symptoms.
I've still not fully recovered physically and emotionally yet, but I am taking care and treating the flu. It's left me disappointed in myself a bit and persuaded me that I can't trust myself with quantities of empathogen/stimulant type drugs. I don't sense any massive damage to myself, but I have no grounds really to say that. It was not a 'Good' thing though, for sure, and I regret it.
Peace - Pipp
 
That's quite a ridiculous amount of M1... I couldn't even imagine. I binged 3gr in one night... and I won't repeat... and 75mg of AMT!?!?!?!?! Jeez somebody really wants to be a statistic.
 
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