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AMT, 2C-B, 4-AcO-DMT - Very Experienced - Everything.

I think Xorkoth had a very similar message as you, I dont understand where your coming from.
I dont think he actually thought he was going to change the world, rather his attitude towards life and towards his family and everyone he interacts with. Which is very possible

And I think he wants his attitude to affect the people around him in a positive way.
 
HottButtaz said:
If you really look at love, it isn't all pillow talk and big wet anime eyes like we want to pretend it is. Love is actually pure intensity, energy, in all forms of emotions; love is a lot like tripping. Think of someone you really love. If you really love them, you've had worse fights with them than with your worst enemy. Love is making decisions and sacrifices that tear your heart open. Spreading love in the world, imo, would be like lighting the wold on fire.

I think we're talking about different kinds of love. At least I was saying that spreading love would be nothing but positive, and I think Xor would say the same. This entails actions to promote happiness and relieve suffering.

I dont' get your point here. Are you saying don't spread love? I think encouraging self love, and expressing love through kind acts is the best you can do.
 
You guys had some great responses over last night. I was hoping for that. Now where do I start?

HottButtaz said:
And I was worried, because tripping seemed to be helping me make progress towards the impossible we all strive to achieve. I was worried because that process seems like a perfect analog of a butterfly's struggle to free itself from the cocoon; If anyone helps the butterfly, its wings don't develop the necessary strength to fly and it dies- and our wings aren't even physical, they're a part of the soul.

I can relate to your analogy, but I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of tripping or not. The butterfly analogy is just one of an infinite number of analogies one could use to describe it. I do definitely think that there are ways that one can use psychedelic drugs or other "shortcuts" that will have detrimental effects on one's development towards the impossible, as you put it. I'm just not sure that it's an inevitability. I think it's possible to use these tools in such a way that it can aid in our understanding without taking anything away.


HottButtaz said:
Now, engaged, do you feel its prudent to base your character and build your soul on these chemicals? Especially considering that you're a prolific figure in this world, and the people with power can come knocking on your door and take it all away.

Or would it be better to take the time to really look within and begin the process of dismantling an ego that can persist throughout the strongest trips with simple meditation and sober reflection? Thats what I'm in the process of right now, and while it hurts, it is a good pain.

I'm a bit confused by the first part because I stated in the report that I want to learn how to achieve this state of mind without using psychedelics weekly or so to keep me there. So no, I don't think it's prudent to continue to base myself around these chemicals. And of course I have a nagging fear of the man, although I don't really think it'll happen because other than posting about it here, I'm careful about things.

HottButtaz said:
What you've written in this trip report is unprocessed kid-on-drug type stuff, and its getting a lot of friends-on-drugs type feedback.

When you say you want to spend the rest of your life committed to love and doing what is good and right, what does that really mean? Have you actually given any thought to what compassion, good, and evil really are? The way it is written it is senseless cliche; when you get down to it the world's thinkers have spent their lives trying to figure out what right and good are, and they haven't been able to yet- although it seems like we've made progress.

I totally get what you're saying. You've got to understand though that this report is, for lack of a better term, kid-on-drugs communication. I was on (a lot of) drugs, and communicated in that state. The thoughts I recorded were flashing through my mind at a tremendous pace. I got out approximately 0% of what I wanted to and I was typing so fast I could hardly believe it. All I had time to do was get the gist of just the most important point out. And this particular trip has had little time to process so far.

However, the subject matter is what I've been pondering for years. I spend a good 80% of my total thinking time trying to process this stuff, and I've been doing so very actively for the past year and a half. So my point is that sober reflection is a huge part of my psychedelic experience. At this point I feel like I rely too much on psychedelic chemicals for enlightenment, but I definitely do not feel that anywhere near all of my mental state is due to psychedelics. It may have resulted from psychedelic experiences, but there is a lot more to it.

As for sounding cliche, yeah, I know. It's certainly not my own idea. I pulled it from the collective consciousness that we all share!

HottButtaz said:
If you really love them, you've had worse fights with them than with your worst enemy. Love is making decisions and sacrifices that tear your heart open. Spreading love in the world, imo, would be like lighting the wold on fire.

Yes, that's true. That's why I said that love and hate are two sides of the same coin. But isn't love, despite all the pain it can cause, ultimately what makes you happy and brings good to your life?

HottButtaz said:
Again I urge you to take some time off from psychedelics.

I am ;)

Anyway, thanks for your honest thoughts, man. I appreciate it. Of course I'm not mad!

Dondante said:
Wow! Great to hear that you feel like you've passed a milestone in your use of psychedelics. It sounds like quite a catharsis ... only when I thought you couldn't "break through" any further, you go and experience this! It seems to me that you've had all these elements present in your other trips, but it just never quite came together all at once, and with such intensity and conviction.

It certainly was a catharsis, the likes of which I haven't ever had before from a psychedelic. The entire trip I was practically bursting with euphoric energy. Like you said, these elements have been present in my trips for a while, and also in my sober thoughts and Bluelight posts (which are an expression of my sober reflection periods). I was starting to think I was at a dead end with psychedelics as well, because most of my trips on strong substances within the past few months have been extremely undirected. I haven't felt the kind of motivation to communicate and make something of the experience since... well, actually, since my 2C-E trip over a year ago. This trip had a tremendous push to it, and I could tell it was different about 3 minutes after I took the first dose of 4-AcO-DMT. I was trying to find something further, but I was actually surprised that it happened.

Anyway, I still feel that, although I would undoubtedly still be able to get something from my current rate of psychedelic consumption, I will be able to get more if I work on myself in sobriety and revisit psychedelics when the time is right. The only part of this that feels unclear is the use of AMT, as I find that one special every single time I use it. It seems to cause me to want nothing more than to perform the message I received from this trip. And its aftereffects linger for a week or so, like a spiritual antidepressant. Still, though, I know it will benefit me more to pursue this same state of mind without it.

Dondante said:
Hottbuttaz brings up some valid points though. You speak of these things here as though they are black and white. Maybe part of it is that I just don't share the same degree of optimism about human nature. Is love really the natural state? I mean what is love? The love that you speak of requires a degree of selflessness that I don’t think is inherent in the natural world, at least on the surface. Were we 100% loving animals before we evolved into humans?

This is a tough and interesting question. First of all, I don't actually see things in black and white like I wrote. I know it's a complex issue with many shades of gray, just like everything else in existence. There are no black and white issues. But the words written are what I was compulsed to write. I think it's because it was important to impart the ideal, rather than the reality of the situation. I mean, of course I realize that not everyone will want to or be able to live by these standards. But I think it's possible for everyone under the right circumstances, and anyway, why accept defeat before you even try? I feel like I have to be optimistic, for myself if for no one else.

Also, I don't mean love in the way that we humans have grown to think of it. I fully realize that the kind of love you may all be thinking of does not exist in the physical world. I mean, animals kill and eat each other. Baby kittens and other animals smother each other to death to compete for their mother's milk. But these acts are born of necessity, in order to best survive and advance the species. But who's to say that animals don't feel a kind of universal love for each other, a collective respect for life? What I see in humans that differs from this is that a lot of people are totally needlessly cruel and destructive, seemingly for no purpose other than pleasure or something.

Anyway, I don't really know how to answer this question, because I don't really know that love is the natural state of things. I think that we may all be thinking of different definitions of love, and we should think of it in a non-human sense.

Beenhead said:
I dont think he actually thought he was going to change the world, rather his attitude towards life and towards his family and everyone he interacts with. Which is very possible

Well, pretty much correct. I realize all I can really hope for and control is my relationships with other people, and my influence on random people and creatures that I encounter. I did and do hope that I could begin the process that changes the world, but I assume that I won't because, well, I'm just one person. The point of my report, though, was not to do it by myself but to inspire as many others as possible to follow, the idea being that each of those people would inspire others, starting a chain reaction that would spread and spread. But like I said, I realize that probably won't happen. Nevertheless, I feel that I need to stay positive about it and not give up. After all, even if I only affect those close to me, it's better than if I affected no one.

Finally, I just wanted to ask anyone if they've ever experienced the kind of ego duality that I did on this trip, where you were simultaneously fully yourself and joined with the (logos, god, collective consciousness, or insert other word). have you? I've never experienced that before until now and it was very interesting. It seems that 4-AcO-DMT is special in that regard, at least for me. And perhaps it's why it doesn't seem to cause any fear. Rather, it seems to cause a spiritual euphoria the likes of which I hadn't previously seen.
 
Xorkoth said:
I do definitely think that there are ways that one can use psychedelic drugs or other "shortcuts" that will have detrimental effects on one's development towards the impossible, as you put it. I'm just not sure that it's an inevitability. I think it's possible to use these tools in such a way that it can aid in our understanding without taking anything away.

Psychedelics are without a doubt amazing tools … I would never be where I am today without them. As Houston Smith said, psychedelics can produce spiritual experiences, but it is less clear that they produce spiritual lives. It is completely up to the person to carry the benefits of the experience into their daily life.

Xorkoth said:
… the words written are what I was compulsed to write. I think it's because it was important to impart the ideal, rather than the reality of the situation. I mean, of course I realize that not everyone will want to or be able to live by these standards. But I think it's possible for everyone under the right circumstances, and anyway, why accept defeat before you even try? I feel like I have to be optimistic, for myself if for no one else.

I understand you 100%. I feel like a real ass for scrutinizing the details … really didn’t mean to bring any negativity to the thread. Be gone negativity! You’re message is a beautiful one and there’s nothing wrong with living life by those ideals. Actually, everything about it is right. Being happy and bringing happiness to the world is the best one can do. And it seems like you’re doing a damn good job of it.

Xorkoth said:
The point of my report, though, was not to do it by myself but to inspire as many others as possible to follow, the idea being that each of those people would inspire others, starting a chain reaction that would spread and spread. But like I said, I realize that probably won't happen. Nevertheless, I feel that I need to stay positive about it and not give up. After all, even if I only affect those close to me, it's better than if I affected no one.

You reminded me of what’s important. :) I actually was inspired by it … in conjunction with some other recent events. Last night I decided to spread my love by calling my girlfriend’s parents and telling them how much I loved their daughter and how I wanted to ask her to marry me. Anyway, I have some work to do before she gets here … late Valentine’s Day celebration. There’s going to be some love in Dondante’s house tonight! =D ... Hopefully!
 
Thanks for your reply. If my reply sounds harsh it's because what I wrote responds to my own insecurities about the same issues, and the seriousness of your TR really brought them all to my attention.

Personally I wouldn't say love is what makes life worth living, I'd say it is life. ;)

Having said that I'm glad as hell that I've got an internet friend letting his love shine so brightly on the world :)


Dondante said:
Are you saying don't spread love? I think encouraging self love, and expressing love through kind acts is the best you can do.

I'm saying spreading love, real love, is no walk in the park- I think if its true there is gonna be as much crying as smiling. Kindness can be a substitute for real love. Its not easy like getting high, its more like playing go. :raincloud:

Its not only the best thing to do; if you're being honest with yourself it's the only thing you can do. :)
 
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Dondante said:
You reminded me of what’s important. I actually was inspired by it … in conjunction with some other recent events. Last night I decided to spread my love by calling my girlfriend’s parents and telling them how much I loved their daughter and how I wanted to ask her to marry me. Anyway, I have some work to do before she gets here … late Valentine’s Day celebration. There’s going to be some love in Dondante’s house tonight! ... Hopefully!

Awesome, Don! Congratulations!! :) :)

HottButtaz said:
I'm saying spreading love, real love, is no walk in the park- I think if its true there is gonna be as much crying as smiling. Kindness can be a substitute for real love. Its not easy like getting high, its more like playing go. :raincloud:

Its not only the best thing to do; if you're being honest with yourself it's the only thing you can do.

True, it can be difficult to do in certain situations. But it gets easier the more practice you have. :)

Anyway, no worries about scrutinizing the details... it's part of why this is posted here.
 
assuming everyone in the world contributed to the concept of the collective output-love rippling effect, and everyone was more or less on the same level...no i take that back, on the exact same level (only way it could happen right?), one could call this perfection, completeness, nirvana...i see it in my mind in the most simple of terms as "=" or "true". one complete existance.

obviously we are far from that state now, however im curious as to your thoughts on the balance of life. forgive me as im bad with putting feelings into words but our worlds current state kind of contradicts how i view the end result or goal in life (to be complete). for instance you had this revolution, and i read your report and understand it to the best of my ability and agree that its a blatent truth. however as you said alot of poeple dont want to see the truth and just skimmed right through the report...black/white...up/down, a general imbalance in consciousness/life, even in TIME. i see life events as kind of like an inter-twined ball of yarn, the whole ball being life as "complete" or just "existing". what i dont get is how time works into it, if we were to ever become as a whole truely "perfect", wouldnt we technicly be in that state right now...or have we always been? is it useless to think we could ever achieve this? would we even be here right now if it were possible? i think time is a result of this imbalance of consciousness...no?

is that why we are still living right now? i dont know how to explain it but in my head im getting the idea of incompleteness/imbalance/imperfection being physical completeness. i dont get it,is being imperfect but striveing everyday to some higher goal of being one with the universe what we want? or dont want?

do i even make sense?

beautifle report nonetheless, cleared up a few things my minds been lingering on.
 
Garbage said:
obviously we are far from that state now, however im curious as to your thoughts on the balance of life. forgive me as im bad with putting feelings into words but our worlds current state kind of contradicts how i view the end result or goal in life (to be complete). for instance you had this revolution, and i read your report and understand it to the best of my ability and agree that its a blatent truth. however as you said alot of poeple dont want to see the truth and just skimmed right through the report...black/white...up/down, a general imbalance in consciousness/life, even in TIME. i see life events as kind of like an inter-twined ball of yarn, the whole ball being life as "complete" or just "existing". what i dont get is how time works into it, if we were to ever become as a whole truely "perfect", wouldnt we technicly be in that state right now...or have we always been? is it useless to think we could ever achieve this? would we even be here right now if it were possible? i think time is a result of this imbalance of consciousness...no?

Alright, I think I've got this. You're saying that the end goal of life is to reach perfection, perfection being the state of life that I described in this report. But you're also saying that the world is not perfect. This is totally agree with, yes. At least at this point in time.

I also see life, the universe, and everything as something like an intertwined ball of yarn, all wrapped up together into perfection. You see, time is another of the dimensions that makes up all of existence, so despite the fact that we as physical beings are forced to exist in one slice of it at a time, giving the illusion that it's distinct from other points in time, in reality time is a solid continuum just like the physical dimensions of existence are, and just because we cannot see the future doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact, all of our thoughts and actions are tied up perfectly within this ball of yarn. Our past makes us who we are today, which drives us to act in certain ways at certain points in time. Regardless of what any of us do, the future is determined. However, we must all still do what we feel is right, because those actions are what are tied up in the ball of yarn that lead to this future. It's just another of those two-sided coin issues. Do we make the future because of our actions, or are our actions happening because of the past and future?

Which brings me to my next point. If perfection is going to be reached, then the universe is already perfect, and it just requires a whole history of temporary imperfection to reach that perfection, when we're stuck in the illusion of linear time. I don't claim to know the answer, as I am a human and am not privy to the future yet, but it seems to me that either the universe is perfect. In the same way that you might say it is impossible to feel joy without pain, good times without bad, I think it is impossible to claim perfection without first having to work through imperfection. it may be that, like everything else, perfection approaches infinity, and that all dimensions including time are infinite, so that we will in effect only ever approach perfection the longer and longer time goes on for. In that case we would reach it only as we rejoined the whole of existence and ceased to be separate and physical. Once we do that, we transcend linear time and perfection is realized.

Look! The snake's eating its own tail!

Now, for an update:

It's been close to a week since this trip, and I haven't used anything psychedelic since. The active euphoria I had is still within me, but it takes a definite effort to bring it to the intensity level I have been experiencing for the past few months. I can generate it when I want to, but it requires some work to maintain and right now, for example, it's just a small buzz within myself. I definitely feel the compulsion to use them, but it's easily pushed aside whenever I think about this experience.

Yesterday (Sunday), I went to church at a great Methodist church, as I do every week because my girlfriend is their pianist and I joined the choir, originally very grdugingly because she wanted company in the job. My joining, along with every other aspect of my life and event in my life's past, I realize as synchonicity, as important steps in taking me to my current place in life. This past church service was absolutely perfect for the recent events in my life. The title of the service was "Commitment Sunday", and it came at the end, on the final day, of a program called "40 Days of Transformation", which coincdentally started right after a pivotal trip the night before, 40 days ago, when I really started to actively put these thoughts into motion. Now, I'm not a Christian (although I think that Jesus was a great guy indeed who was trying to spread the love as well, and who would be offended at the current state of Christianity), but this church is pretty much the best example of Christianity I've ever been a part of. These people are just such good people, such spiritual people, who have the same goal as me, which is to make the lives of everyone they can reach better. Throughout this service, everything said rang so close to my heart. I was nearly in tears the entire service, just totally overwhelmed with love and happiness and almost a shock at how perfect it all lines up, all the time. For example, here was the anthem we sang. Other than a few lines brought about by centuries of social control built into the religion, it was perfect and very personal:

Here am I, send me
Show the path that I must walk
Compel me then to go
And if I stray
bring back the light of day
For here am I, send me I pray

Send me to be
What's created in me
Formed in your image I stand
Turn my weakness into your power
Power to be at last what I'm able to be

Here am I, send me
Precious holy spirit come, fill me anew
Give me wisdom, send me strength
Grant that I may be
A mirror of your neverending love
For here am I, send me I pray

I've come to realize that this step in my life must be taken for me to become everything I'm supposed to become. I've been using drugs for years to make myself understand what it is I'm supposed to become, but at the same time they're keeping me from acting on it. Among other things, I can't keep spending money on drugs, because I don't save any when I do. I need to save money because I'm getting married and I've got lots of things to pay for, and I need to buy my first house so I can start to build my financial value, because in this society money is necessary to be influential, and I feel that I need to become influential so that I can spread this ideal around more effectively. Fortunately my fiance and I came up with a plan and if we stick to a strict budget, we can have our first house in 6 months. Exciting times!

I realize that I'm already in somewhat of a position of influence by being a recognizable figure in the Internet psychedelic community. But that's not enough. I should be more than that (although I won't be leaving this community, either, as it brings me a lot of joy and allows me opportunities to return that joy).

So, anyway, there's what's been going on since this experience. I continue to absorb the experience, almost constantly. I'm also getting off of my minor kratom addiction, because there's no reason for me to still have it and it costs me too much in terms of money and emotional instability from time-to-time. It shouldn't be a problem because I'm very motivated and frankly, I've already fully withdrawn from it 4 times in the past and it's been considerably easier each time.

Some final thoughts:

Someone of you brought up the point that love may not be the natural state of existence. Do I think it is? I'm not sure. But I do know that it could be. There may be a big change coming. More people than just I have been sensing a rapid acceleration of something over the past few years. As far as I can tell, this acceleration is getting faster and faster. It is inevitable that at some point we will be forced into a drastic change. Whatever is going on in the world today is not working. This is why I feel it is so important to actively try to spread as much love around as possible, because it is possible as far as I can tell to cause that change to be in the positive direction. Something is coming, so let's try our best to make sure that something is a good thing. :)

Finally, I could continue to use psychedelics often, and I think I'd have an extremely happy and mentally/emotionally productive life. However, I've become so enamored with them that they're causing me to stagnate. Sitting around tripping may indeed produce a fulfilling personal life and may indeed spread plenty of positivity throughout the universe. However, I know that my potential will not be reached. There is no action when I rely on drugs for change. I can just get more out of sobriety than out of continuing to overuse psychedelics. The only thing I still feel conflicted about is AMT. AMT, for me, is an extremely special substance that doesn't twist my mind up at all, but rather clears it, clarifies it. I feel that when I take AMT, it makes it effortless to live the kind of life I'm advocating here. In fact, AMT had a very large part in making me who I am right now. Its aftereffects linger on for up to a week and act as a sort of spiritual antidepressant, maintaining my glowing euphoria and motivation throughout the week after the experience and especially throughout the duration of the effects and the immediate two days afterwards. I feel that if I continued to use it weekly, it may have nothing but a positive impact on me (other than its monetary cost). But I know that I need to try without it, which is what I'm doing. Relying on something external for happiness is a slippery slope indeed.
 
Wow Xorkoth, 54mg of 4-AcO-DMT over an hour, on top of solid +2 doses of AMT and 2C-B! I assume some tolerance issues were at play here given the lucidity of your writing concurrent with the experience? Though I certainly enjoy AMT, in my experience its true value is as you’ve used it here, to mold a positively sloped psychological terrain for channeling the torrential experience of a wilier psychedelic towards the ecstatic. I’ve employed a similar theory to great success with mescaline and ayahuasca, with AMT and DPT, and with this combination you’ve written about as well--minus the 2C-B. Some might judge that effectively precluding a negative experience is akin to psychonautical escapism, that the denial of this aspect constrains the dynamism of the psychedelic experience and acts as a governor to insight. You and I know this is false, and that the ecstatic realms have a vastness and a value that flirts with the illimitable.
Xorkoth said:
I get a strong impression that all of these events are placed here purposely to construct the story of my life. Synchronicity...

I've never experienced this type of ego interaction, this much utility out of the state...

I have been feeling like this for some time, but now I can see it all in so much more clarity. I can see what I'm thinking of from any number of angles at once. I feel endless. I am about to start a new chapter in my life, and I can see clearly how everything previous has made me who I am.
Fascinating. Your experience parallels mine with a striking congruence http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=285643. It is really starting to look like 4-AcO-DMT--more so than other psychedelics, and when conditions are right--is able to incite a kind of revelatory subconscious revolt that brings the subconscious out of the shadows to form a kind of fully bilateral awareness and a sense of self that is profoundly comprehensive and cohesive. I should note however that my sense of synchronicity was anchored firmly with myself rather reality itself; that, at the time, unbeknownst to me, it was the result of a partially subconscious and benign orchestration of my life behind the scenes rather than a sense of my life as a puzzle piece that helps complete the total picture of time and the world.

I’m very happy for you, and wish you success in incorporating your experience into your sobriety break. I’m also glad to know this is just an extended break (which is quite a good idea) and not a break-off. After the trips are over the message of the psychedelic experience exists only in recall. And with every subsequent invocation of that memory the demands of work and society add static and distortion.
 
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Um, yes... tolerance was definitely an issue. I agree with your thoughts regarding 4-AcO-DMT. It does indeed seem quite special. Church had the same sort of thing happen (or be triggered by anyway) 4-AcO-DMT, and yoyoman a few months back had a trip that sounded, um, very similar to mine, even in the way he was talking about it right afterwards. I PMed him about it actually, but haven't heard back yet.

I'm glad you also agree with me that exploring psychedelic states with love and not with fear can be extremely valuable as well. Personally I'm able to navigate a psychedelic state much more readily and controllably when fear is far from my mind! In some ways I think that, over time as you become familiar with the psychedelic state, fear becomes a rarity, mainly just because, well, you've gotten over your existential and physical insecurites (hopefully, anyway!) and you've got nothing coming at you to fear. It seems that fear and anxiety are fairly essential parts of most people's early trips at least, and I think that's very important because it causes you to think thoughts that you wouldn't normally get near and bring them to the surface so you canj deal with them. But if you've already dealt with them, then I just don't understand how fear is essential to the trip.

I am interested in AMT combinations with more powerful and psychedelic chemicals not because I want to avoid fear - I already very rarely get afraid on psychedelics anymore anyway - but because I find the combination to be unique from any substance on its own. The AMT brings an element of cosmic joy and openness with it that synergizes very beautifully with at least some other psychedelics and opens up some new spaces.

Thanks for the good thoughts! I was wondering when you'd respond. :)
 
Excellent point about the importance of negative experiences early on in one's psychedelic career. I was in South America for the 10 days prior to my response, so I fell behind on Bluelight posts. I'm sure you understand!
 
HottButtaz said:
Your trip report also made me think of the overused phone/message analogy.

Once you get the message, it isn't time to hang up the phone or start blabbing away- the message is actually a packet that it is going to take your brain the rest of your life to compute.

What you've written in this trip report is unprocessed kid-on-drug type stuff, and its getting a lot of friends-on-drugs type feedback.

When you say you want to spend the rest of your life committed to love and doing what is good and right, what does that really mean? Have you actually given any thought to what compassion, good, and evil really are? The way it is written it is senseless cliche; when you get down to it the world's thinkers have spent their lives trying to figure out what right and good are, and they haven't been able to yet- although it seems like we've made progress.

Even something that seems as simple as feeding the world is a puzzle when you get down to it- is it really charitable feed the people who spend all their money and time smoking crack or shooting dope? And that is just an extreme case to illustrate a point. I dont think a philosopher in the world even noticed the problem that arose when agriculture made it possible to eat without working for food- is that itself a just situation?

I believe most people in this world are already trying to do good, but the world is complicated and everything has hidden repercussions. Important decisions are never easy, and black and white type good and evil is rare indeed- I've only ever seen shades of gray.

Again I urge you to take some time off from psychedelics. I swear to God it is like crawling out of a womb or something. Especially if you're going to get married, and ESPECIALLY if you plan on having kids.

Now I've spoken my true feelings, which you kind of asked for, and I just hope you don't pissed at me for it :(

I second that!
 
Xork, I just checked my hushmail and saw that email from you... so I came and checked this thread out. All I can say is, wow. This 4-aco-dmt is some serious, powerful, sacred stuff. Everything about this substance felt very serious and "face-to-face." I'm starting to see a trend regarding this substance. It's definitely a magical one to me. You did an eloquent job of describing it all, too.

Ever since my last trip, I haven't even found myself desiring to play around in the psychedelic realms. It really prioritized everything in my life and made me re-assess things. For better or for worse, I've simply been focusing on the real world again, like my career, my girlfriend, etc. No complaints, either. Other than that, I want to smoke more cannabis lately, but the supply in my inner circle is pretty shitty these days!! :p I can't stand how here in Florida people call everything highgrade, or "kind bud," or whatever, when it's really just common mids. 8)

But whatever. I'm enjoying myself. And resigning from my mod position has been beneficial to me, as well, because I have plenty of time away from the computer to build PCs, tutor people in Pro Tools, engineer, write music, have sex, and generally just relax.

I hope everything falls into place for you, brother! I always enjoy reading your reports.

*edit* I totally just said "I have plenty of time away from the computer to build PCs." Isn't it ironic?... Dontcha think?
 
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^^ I'm glad you finally posted! I can't say I haven't been desiring to trip sometimes, as I definitely have, but I've found my willpower to be increased significantly. My fiance and I spontaneously realized that we needed badly to budget and start saving, and we found out that this house we found in a really great location we will totally be able to afford if we follow our budget, in about 6 months, which is exciting!

4-AcO-DMT is one of those substances that makes everything feel effortless. It makes my brain just open up and suddenly I feel as if I know the truth about everything just by thinking about it. It truly is an amazing substance. It's amazing how different it is from 4-HO-DMT, too. It's definitely my favorite tryptamine at this point. It's one of the few psychedelics, and especially tryptamines, which I've used that seems to not contain any sort of darkness or fear/anxiety. Instead, it seems to connect me directly to the universal love, which is an even more powerful and beautiful thing to behold. Whenever I trip again I am going to explore DPT, too, which I imagine is also an incredible one.
 
awesome report, ive been in that frame of mind, and it made me smile when you were saying some things that ive thought in similar situations..

it seems like you were on the computer a whole hell of a lot during the trip, that would drive me crazy, as soon as i hit +3 electronics and such dont mix , +4 and you cant even see the computer.

did you do this by yourself?
 
cornollio said:
did you do this by yourself?

Yes. I almost always trip alone.

it seems like you were on the computer a whole hell of a lot during the trip, that would drive me crazy, as soon as i hit +3 electronics and such dont mix , +4 and you cant even see the computer.

I don't always spend my tripping time on the computer. It's just that in this case I felt it most important to write as much of what I was thinking as I could. I felt like I had written pages and pages and pages, but it turns out I was typing rather slowly (as you might imagine)... the report took me 3 or 4 hours to write. Anyway, a +4 is not directly tied to the level of intoxication you're under. It's about experiencing a divine state beyond Also, as I mentioned, tolerance was a factor. I've gotten quite good at functioning reasonably well under the influence of powerful psychedelics, and I type pretty much all day, every day, as it is also necessary in my job.
 
you crazy maaaaaaaaaan, ive only tripped alone 3 times out of over 300 trips, and i guess since i havent done it often enough to be able to truly enjoy it. i did learn how to meditate my first time tripping bymyself though so i cant recommend it enough. me and my friend both ate a 2ci (had metamusil filler so it took a while) my roomate tripped as planned at hour one, but mine didnt work. so about 8 hours later hes going to bed and my 2ci kicks in. that was crazy.


have you thought about getting a tape recorder for the trip instead of sitting on the computer? maybe go outside wiht it or something, you might be able to get that stream of consciousness thing going w/o having to desifer thoughts into words on a screen. it might free up alot of energy, just a suggestion though.

that was an awesome report though! keep em comin, peace!
 
I actually have always had a much, much easier time tripping alone than with people. The reason is because I've only met a couple of people who don't get weird vibes when they trip. I'm totally comfortable with myself, but I'm also extremely sensitive to emotions and energies coming from other people, so when someone with me is getting negative, it's hard for me to ignore it. When I'm by myself, I'm totally at peace.
 
I only occasionally trip with others nowadays, and when I do, it’s at a +2 or less. It’s always a good time, even valuable, but it simply doesn’t compare to the thrill of going it alone. With something that has as much potential as an AMT/4-AcO-DMT combo it’s not even a question. Self-consciousness and tact prohibit me from embracing child-like spiritual and emotional incontinence in front of others. And if I’m not using higher doses to embrace that incontinence, I’m denying myself both the full potential of the drug and the full potential of my own happiness. Those conscious and subconscious dams I put up in the company of others need to come down before I can be taken away by the flood. Even with close friends, I can’t ever imagine them watching me writhe around, trembling in a manic, paroxysmal joy-fit, and have it not be more than a bit awkward... I think a tendency toward tripping alone is part of the natural and somewhat necessary progression of the older, lifestyle tripper whose trips continue to evolve along with their intellectual and spiritual pursuits and go on benefiting them. Once you’ve established a rapport with the psychedelic experience with a social safety net, I recommend trying to get to know it more openly on your own.
 
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