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Amphetamine (Dexedrine) - First time - Clarity

JimiHawK*

JimiHawK*

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The only other stimulant i have done is BZP, now i realise how shitty a compound bzp really is.

I bought 5 Dexedrine IR 5mg tablets off my ADHD friend. 1 pill was crushed and snorted on friday to test the waters. Very mild effects were felt, but that wasnt the point - it was just to make sure i wouldnt get adverse effects.


Saturday

A rave was on, so i decided it would be the best place to experience the dex. I have read a lot of positive feedback from people who used dextroamphetamine-some even preferring it to meth. In contrast - was also the negative and ugly effects of amphetamine abuse. people saying it changed their friends etc for the worse.

9pm - we arrive at the rave and park the car. I am very very anxious at this time, i knew the risks were minimal as it was only 20mg but that didnt stop my heart pounding and limbs shaking. Before getting out, i finely crush 4 dexedrine tablets. The pills are quite small so that was a positive. about 3/4 of the pile was cut into a line and snorted with a $20 note. Very very smooth - with a nice sweetish drip. the remaining powder was taken orally with a powerade sports drink containing various electrolytes in the hope of easing jaw clenching.

10.30pm - Raves for me start off slow. every time the first half an hour i would just hug the walls and tap my feet. This time i meet a friend who i havent seen for a while. the last hour we just talked about various things from the rave scene to metaphysical philosophies. I feel the speed coming on, but my god it was gentle! Unlike the hard smack-me-in-the-face come up from BZP this was like being on a velvet escalator to heaven.


12am - After the first set (house) finished and the almighty hardhouse came on i decided to go for a crank/dance. Im not shy when it comes to dancing but i did notice an increase in confidence. Dancing seems so much more enjoyable aswell. By now the speed is in full gear. I feel euphoric, chatty and just generally damned good! There was no rush but that didnt disappoint me - as the mental clarity more than made up for it. Its like the complete opposite of getting drunk, i feel a cloud has been lifted over my mind.

1am - I have been sipping water throughout the night, and probably have gone through about 3L of water. My mouth is extremely dry, the water relieves it for a good 2 seconds before i have to drink again :\ . I remember that i have not gone to take a piss at all during the night, this concerns me as i would usually be busting for a slash. I walk to the toilet and a very long piss ensured. Penile shrinkage is noticed :P .

2am - I sit down for a quick break. A very attractive girl sits down next to me and asks if i live in some random city, i reply no. She then says she knows me and that im that extreme dancer, i give a small laugh and smile. Then she asks me to dance with her - but at that moment i didnt feel like it and said i was tired, she'd have none of that and literally pulls me up to the dancefloor where she started to grind. Usually, i would be more than thrilled this happened, but i dont know what the fuck happened and i told her im tired and want to sit down. She mustve thought i wasnt interested, so gave me a quick kiss and wished me a goodnight before disappearing off somewhere. Only when i came to sit down did i realise what a fool i was - i was in with a grin but i threw it away :(


6am - i get home and the first thing i do is get into bed. All i want to do is sleep, being wired-but-tired made sure that didnt happen. It was like trying to sleep after you just woke up in the morning - had a shower - had a coffee, and ready to tackle the day. I put on some nice relaxing trance, what i really needed but didnt have was a big fat cone :|


10am - at around 7am i mustve dozed off. I had a shower, and a cup of juice. i feel sort of hungry as i havent had anything to eat for 2 days but just couldnt eat anything.







That was one of the best experiences ive ever had. To top it off - there was no physical comedown either. I just feel sort of emotionless, like my brain has depleted its emotion banks. As much as i would like to buy more dex, im going to stop myself for atleast a few months. I like this VERY much and the last thing i need at the moment is a stimulant addiction.
 
Last time I did speed was by complete accident, some pills that I had aquired were like 50% or more phet. It was god awful. It set my stomach on edge and I just felt agitated and irritable but without any euphoria or urge to dance / enjoy the night.


The next day I felt like death.


Maby it wasnt speed, maby its not great to swallow. Either way it was horrible. The inability to eat anything is a biatch, so is the shrinkage.



Im glad you enjoyed your experience though man.
 
Dextroamphetamine is the absolute shit. I haven't done it in a long time, but it's the best upper, IMO. No physical tweaking out like Adderall or meth. Just racing thoughts and extreme euphoria. I suggest taking like 35mg next time, dude. Over 30 seems to be where the most euphoria is for myself and my friends. But go too much over that and you will physically tweak out just like any other amp.
 
TheTwighlight said:
Dextroamphetamine is the absolute shit. I haven't done it in a long time, but it's the best upper, IMO. No physical tweaking out like Adderall or meth. Just racing thoughts and extreme euphoria. I suggest taking like 35mg next time, dude. Over 30 seems to be where the most euphoria is for myself and my friends. But go too much over that and you will physically tweak out just like any other amp.
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Its due to the fact that dextro-amphetamine is more of a dopaminergic drug. Adderall comes the levo- isomer which is more adrenic (norepinephrine) and less dopaminergic. Its best to take a combination of the 2 if your looking for raves, the adrenic stimulation helps a lot for keeping your muscle fatigue less noticed. Drink a vitamin water "Power-C" which will help calm things down and feel less jittery at the end of the night.

Melatonin helps a lot too. Anyways, if you got any questions I'm experienced with amphetamines quite well, except methamphetamine (never done it).

Glad you had a good experience, amphetamine at raves is amazing.
 
TheTwighlight said:
^^^

Not to talk down, but I already know that stuff. That's the reason I like d-amphetamine. I don't like tweaking out and shaking and shit.
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I was moreso piggybacking your idea for the JimiHawK* since he was talking about first time experience. My bad bout not making it clearer.
 
^^^

All good. D-amp is the best stimulant I've ever tried. The comedown, for whatever reason, is a little less harsh than any other upper I've tried. I sometimes wish I could still get a hold of it, but I was pretty badly addicted to DextroStat and crystal meth for a while. So maybe it's best I can't get it.
 
This thread has made for some interesting reading as I'm hoping to switch from mentally unstimulating concerta to adderal soon - a movement I suggested to my psychiatrist on the grounds that concerta seemed too physical in nature. Great for sparking a desire to paint, polish or organise a house but not so effective for focussing my attention on written material.

I did have a breakthrough in terms of mental clarity after an unfortunate SSRI + concerta interaction though, that yielded a greater purity of thought/logic based reasoning that felt like exactly what I wanted from an ADD med.

I can foresee a degree of improvement with the adderal in regards to its 50% dextroamphetamine salts content but am I right to assume the levoamphetamine will bring about the same tweaked out sensation of the concerta?

From the moment I set about medicating my attention based problems, research led me to believe that desoxyn was the cleanest solution in regards to avoiding physical manifestations - could d-amp be what I'm looking for?

I never actually expect/expected to get to desoxyn (the rational : patients have to 'suffer/maintain' the readily prescribed medications for several years before getting something that actually treats the problems effectively!), now I'm thinking there may be a realisable goal in sight the leap from adderal to d-amp in terms of acceptability isn't huge, right?

For the record - I'm not trying to fastrack my way to a more recreational ADD med without giving others a chance to be effective BUT if I could find something that simultaneously allows me to read a book at something approaching average speed and could be used for fun, well - that'd make me happy.

<a few days without taking ADD meds, to allow a day of abusing them somewhat, wouldn't be the most dishonest approach right? :) >
 
wesmdow said:
^dexedrine is in adderall, and comparitavely, adderall blows.
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Adderall is more useful for obtaining a more physical stimulation, though dexedrine's powerful and quite clear mental and mild-physical stimulation is tough to beat; however, adderall is a close 2nd and can sometimes be more useful than dexedrine, depending on the situation. Its all about personal preference.
 
DarkCode said:
Adderall is more useful for obtaining a more physical stimulation, though dexedrine's powerful and quite clear mental and mild-physical stimulation is tough to beat; however, adderall is a close 2nd and can sometimes be more useful than dexedrine, depending on the situation. Its all about personal preference.
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I'd been switching between precribed use of concerta (2x18mg) and recreational use (chewing 2+ tablets) for a while and it wasn't until yesterday that I noticed that the 'experience(s)'' were actually two manifestations combined into one drug...


So, 11:00am, I consume my two 18mg concertas as prescribed. Half an hour later I feel slightly happier, I can actually read + concentrate on 'things'. I can sit still, read books at the same pace as everyone else (unique for me) and generally 'work' better - well, work normally.

Two or three hours later, the mental focus disappears and then there is a miniature crash.

Thereafter, the effects are completely different. I feel restless, slightly anxious but full of physical (though zero mental) energy. I can paint walls, put up scaffolding or cook meals at hyperspeed.


My hypothesis is that the dopamine inhibition is responsible for the feel good, think logically...be productive first 2/3 hours.

Then, this gives way to the Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibition present around hour 4 all the way through to hour 8/9 of the experience.


I only want the mental clarity - is adderal just going to make the logical part better but with a stronger physical (NRI?) downside? ? ? I'd like to sidestep adderal and go straight to dexedrine.

Any responses appreciated.
 
Hehehe, hai2u JimiHawk, fancy seeing you here ;)
Good stuff :)

Yeah (S)(+)-amphetamine is quite different to (S)(+)-methamphetamine, different monoamine release ratios and shit, as well as the increased potency from it's ability to cross the BBB more easily cause of the N-methyl.
Seems to be a lot less neurotoxic, and have less of a tendency to cause tweaker behaviorisms.
 
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