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Stimulants Amphetamine addiction how does it truly work????
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benzoheadplus44
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right...
its like in most cases... if you have to ask, chances are you are probably addicted... just from my own experience...
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Amphetamines are very addictive, just stick with weed when it comes to partying and stuff...pretty hard to get addicted to weed.
In my experience, you'll know you're getting addicted to something if you're thinking about it pertty much all the time - using it, getting more, etc. Also I think a warning sign is if you turn to the drug whenever you start feeling depressed or something (like if you start relying on it to lift your mood). Plus if you're addicted you'd get w/d symptoms if you stopped.
In my experience, you'll know you're getting addicted to something if you're thinking about it pertty much all the time - using it, getting more, etc. Also I think a warning sign is if you turn to the drug whenever you start feeling depressed or something (like if you start relying on it to lift your mood). Plus if you're addicted you'd get w/d symptoms if you stopped.
16ValveHate
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It was very sneaky in my case.
I used it for years before it got out of control.
I think I became addicted when I began to use it for work.
It didn't took long, and I needed it for work.
The last 18 month of my addiction I used high doses of Ketamine,Benzos,1,4 Butandiole or opiates daily.
Not to enjoy it but to be able to get some sleep.
Always a line of speed beside my bed, there was no other option in the morning if you have to work.
I'm glad I found my way out, well mostly.
I still use it daily, but only to a degree that allows me to sleep without help.
I think it's pretty harmless as long as it doesn't find it's way into your daily routine.
I used it for years before it got out of control.
I think I became addicted when I began to use it for work.
It didn't took long, and I needed it for work.
The last 18 month of my addiction I used high doses of Ketamine,Benzos,1,4 Butandiole or opiates daily.
Not to enjoy it but to be able to get some sleep.
Always a line of speed beside my bed, there was no other option in the morning if you have to work.
I'm glad I found my way out, well mostly.
I still use it daily, but only to a degree that allows me to sleep without help.
I think it's pretty harmless as long as it doesn't find it's way into your daily routine.
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benzoheadplus44
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Its too easy to get speed involved with your daily routine...
especially when you have a doctor who will give it to you 4 times a day...
when you begin learning the right things to say to get your prescribed dream drug... or combination of drugs... chances are you're addicted.
when you are like me and call it a dream drug... chances are you're addicted...
But true if you don't work it into your daily routine and use it moderately... then you can be ok, but still you may do that and think about it all the time... then you're still addicted, but you have discipline.... You just aren't dependent, but still addicted....
Its very fucking sneaky... its so much of a sneaky addiction it can be staring you in the face and you will still be convinced you're not addicted.
It won't let you think that...
Opiates though like said above, at least you know you're addicted to them... amps are totally sneaky.... it makes you only put speed ahead of everything else, yet not realize at the time that you're doing something that is not too good...
"oh i feel ok I must be ok, fuck it"
"I'm still young enough..." (as 17 turns to 25) "As long as I stop by 35,"
lol it has you convinced what it wants you to be convinced of.... just to be it's slave...
I'm telling you this because these are just a few of the random pieces of thought matter that I have... and I'm on the shit right now... the list is endless.
amphetamines in my honest opinion are the most addictive drug class (stimulants in general...) psychologically speaking at least... it almost becomes physical when you cannot get up or be normal without them... altered brain chemistry definitely to the max, plus its neurotoxic when you think of MDMA, Methamphetamine, etc...... like with other addictive drugs... but this one is downregulating the reward pathways directly... speak of horrible depression you have... it leaves me a shell of a human being when I don't have dextroamphetamine... the craving is horrible...
I've read up on studies on my own free time regarding the rats/monkeys (research study animals) and how they keep administering these drugs till they die, neglecting their own health and their young, unlike other drugs like opiates/benzos (from what I've gathered)... I read with opiates the animals could still take care of themselves.... and their young.. but with cocaine/amphetamine... animals of all test types administer it till death.... its a cycle that never ends.. you see some humans almost doing this.... we have more control than the animals but still its a similar pattern. Self destruction...
be careful with these... You can be a functioning addict or whatever still don't get me wrong.. I just think its so easy to lose control though with amphetamines and not even know it.. thats all I mean.
Also they deteriorate your mind so much... binging, lack of sleep, as well... psychosis... it will make you a nut job if you're not careful either... and socially withdrawn.
especially when you have a doctor who will give it to you 4 times a day...
when you begin learning the right things to say to get your prescribed dream drug... or combination of drugs... chances are you're addicted.
when you are like me and call it a dream drug... chances are you're addicted...
But true if you don't work it into your daily routine and use it moderately... then you can be ok, but still you may do that and think about it all the time... then you're still addicted, but you have discipline.... You just aren't dependent, but still addicted....
Its very fucking sneaky... its so much of a sneaky addiction it can be staring you in the face and you will still be convinced you're not addicted.
It won't let you think that...
Opiates though like said above, at least you know you're addicted to them... amps are totally sneaky.... it makes you only put speed ahead of everything else, yet not realize at the time that you're doing something that is not too good...
"oh i feel ok I must be ok, fuck it"
"I'm still young enough..." (as 17 turns to 25) "As long as I stop by 35,"
lol it has you convinced what it wants you to be convinced of.... just to be it's slave...
I'm telling you this because these are just a few of the random pieces of thought matter that I have... and I'm on the shit right now... the list is endless.
amphetamines in my honest opinion are the most addictive drug class (stimulants in general...) psychologically speaking at least... it almost becomes physical when you cannot get up or be normal without them... altered brain chemistry definitely to the max, plus its neurotoxic when you think of MDMA, Methamphetamine, etc...... like with other addictive drugs... but this one is downregulating the reward pathways directly... speak of horrible depression you have... it leaves me a shell of a human being when I don't have dextroamphetamine... the craving is horrible...
I've read up on studies on my own free time regarding the rats/monkeys (research study animals) and how they keep administering these drugs till they die, neglecting their own health and their young, unlike other drugs like opiates/benzos (from what I've gathered)... I read with opiates the animals could still take care of themselves.... and their young.. but with cocaine/amphetamine... animals of all test types administer it till death.... its a cycle that never ends.. you see some humans almost doing this.... we have more control than the animals but still its a similar pattern. Self destruction...
be careful with these... You can be a functioning addict or whatever still don't get me wrong.. I just think its so easy to lose control though with amphetamines and not even know it.. thats all I mean.
Also they deteriorate your mind so much... binging, lack of sleep, as well... psychosis... it will make you a nut job if you're not careful either... and socially withdrawn.
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16ValveHate
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I have to agree. With all other substances I tried, I always knew when it was time to switch or stop to avoid problems.
The
"The last 18 month of my addiction..."
part I wrote is definately not worded correct.
I meant the out-of-control phase in particular, when every aspect of my life was affected by my disrespectful use of the drug.
I know, I still show addictive behaviour in the medical sense, but not when you know the real meaning of amp.-addiction.
I'm aware of it now and I won't allow it back in the drivers seat so to speak.
I'm very strict about my daily dosage since then, never exceeded the limits I sat myself, and I'm not even tempted.
No amount I could use and survive would bring something new to the table.
Every now and then I skip use for a day.
Only happens when I don't need to function.
The tiredness that follows is so annoying, and it wont go away, not even after weeks of being sober.
All in all my life is back to normal, the nasty agressive behaviour is gone, and with it the omnipresent and almost unbearable hate vanished.
Everything is so much better now.
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benzoheadplus44
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yeah dude the tiredness lasts forever... weeks... the depression lasts a while... over time it does get better.... if you can do it right thats good.... the bad things that come with the abusing of the drug aren't forgotten and aren't worth it so taking less or the correct amount just to function or whatnot as prescribed is better than being fucked up and chasing that high...
ive done better... today is different but as of late i went down big time on my daily and dosing amounts close to as prescribed...
today i fucked up tho but its hard... what can you do...
thats good its great when you can skip a day... the comedown makes it not worth it sometimes....... i havent skipped a day now in a while if ive had it.. but except the first day/binge after that i use close to as prescribed in a day... its not as shitty... it varies....
ive done better... today is different but as of late i went down big time on my daily and dosing amounts close to as prescribed...
today i fucked up tho but its hard... what can you do...
thats good its great when you can skip a day... the comedown makes it not worth it sometimes....... i havent skipped a day now in a while if ive had it.. but except the first day/binge after that i use close to as prescribed in a day... its not as shitty... it varies....
Addiction and tolerance ...
It works by adjusting your dopamine tolerance and causing your mind and body to associate positive stimulus with amphetamine usage.
Every time you take a dose your dopaminergic, serotonergic and noradrenergic pathways will light up in your brain and tolerance increases. This make you feel less alive when you are sober. You condition your mind to believe that by dosing amphetamine you get desired positive effects.
If you keep on conditioning your mind long enough, over time you lose interest in food, sex , water and anything you found pleasurable earlier. You lose contact with reality and your self eventually.
You can train your mind so that you use amphetamine as a reward , like once a month for good work or some other thing that you think deserves a reward. Then you stay off it for rest of the month. This way you can keep the tolerance effects to minimum and you can still be in some control. Though there is safer ways to reward yourself.
I don't recommend using it for ADD/ADHD because even weekly usage, not to mention daily, can cause your tolerance to skyrocket and then you deprive yourself from the positive effects.
I don't think it is particularly addictive. You just need to stay absolutely true to yourself.
Stay safe
It works by adjusting your dopamine tolerance and causing your mind and body to associate positive stimulus with amphetamine usage.
Every time you take a dose your dopaminergic, serotonergic and noradrenergic pathways will light up in your brain and tolerance increases. This make you feel less alive when you are sober. You condition your mind to believe that by dosing amphetamine you get desired positive effects.
If you keep on conditioning your mind long enough, over time you lose interest in food, sex , water and anything you found pleasurable earlier. You lose contact with reality and your self eventually.
You can train your mind so that you use amphetamine as a reward , like once a month for good work or some other thing that you think deserves a reward. Then you stay off it for rest of the month. This way you can keep the tolerance effects to minimum and you can still be in some control. Though there is safer ways to reward yourself.
I don't recommend using it for ADD/ADHD because even weekly usage, not to mention daily, can cause your tolerance to skyrocket and then you deprive yourself from the positive effects.
I don't think it is particularly addictive. You just need to stay absolutely true to yourself.
Stay safe