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amp + excercise

lil linnies

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Hello all, I am a martial artist and love my speed. Previously I always found that it gave me more energy & kept me on the ball. Recently I have found I just overheat & actually lose energy with it (and sweat profusely around the head, shoulders area) and even get a bit confused. Can anyone tell me what's happening?
 
There are some good answers to this question over in this thread

Basically mixing speed and a high intensity exercise is not a good idea healthwise. You're better off fighting sober.
 
lol reading your post sounds like exackly the same experience i had wen i was on speed, when i was on it, i trained like a maniac and after that i felt like i could go endless rounds on the pads, it was fantastic......after about 2 months however different story, i completly crashed felt like shit, i was so run down just had no energy, increased my dose a bit but eventually stopped taking them. when you do martial arts it makes your heart race without the speed..... you can imagine what it does to your heart wen you combine training with speed. once i actually felt like i was going to have a heart attack in the middle of training, i had to stop taking em after that it really wasent worth it. :\
moral of the story, dont take speed for training =D
 
Stimulants and strenuous exercise are an unhealthy mix I am pretty sure as it puts a fairly strong strain on the heart, I was into martial arts for years and am interested what martial arts you are practising as some would definately be considered quite a bit less intense than others in general work out wise, although of course this is always going to vary between different gym/dojo/clubs within the same disciplines. I actually have a little experience with using various drugs in the practise of various disciplines and in particular with stimulants have had mixed results.

Personally I think marijuana is a negative thing for martial arts and/or full contact fighting whether used before and/or during training or fighting or even frequently in your personal time. It fucks your cardio and for me personally I always was a shit boxer stoned and regardless of what Joe Rogan or Eddie Bravo have to say on the issue I have never felt marijuana had a positive impact on grappling/BJJ whatsoever, the difference isn't as bad as with striking as its not quite as intense cardiovascularly but it definately slows you down. MAYBE if you were predominantly a bottom guard player it would give the slightest edge. I don't know if you watch MMA but laughably a few years ago Pride FC overturned Nick Diaz's submission victory against Takanori Gomi after he tested positive for cannabis claiming that marijuana made him numb to Gomi's punches.

I do feel that I have had a better performance in training from low to moderate amounts of a stimulant, but I do have to question the benefit of a slightly improved performance when unless you are a habitual user most training sessions or any time you may have to use your skills in self defence you are unlikely to be on stimulants. When you consider it is unhealthy for the cardiovascular system it is probably more beneficial in the long run to be training sober. In regards to fighting, I can't say I have never hit a good dose and felt a slight imrpovement but most often I feel like my heart rate rises too quickly and I get lightheaded after a while and also I find it much harder to pace myself so I end up going all out for a short period of time and then burning out.

A few years ago now I was at a friends house who was prescribed ritalin at the time, I used to take the stuff almost daily for a while in school but it was atleast 18 months since I had it. I took a dose typical of what I used to and proceeded to have a grappling match with my mate as we were both huge UFC fans at the time with a bit of formal grappling experience. I eventually tapped him out but immediately afterwards I felt my heart racing so fast and very lightheaded. I could barely walk inside to the bathroom and had to crawl the last little bit because I felt so weak, I was dry wretching and had to get my mate grab me water, this lasted a good 15 minutes of me basically immobile on the toilet floor only moving to dry wretch and drink the odd bit of water. My mate almost rang an ambulance and honestly to this day it is one of, if not the most scary drug experience I have ever had in my life.

This is an interesting topic to me but I guess doesn't come up so often among most regular drug users who don't seem to practise martial arts (unfortunately that includes me for a good few years now) but there is probably good reason for this as most drug use will have an adverse impact on your MA training. Many professional athletes are a testimony to the fact is is possible to use or abuse drugs and be successful at your chosen sport but it is definately a hinderance (unless talking performance enhancers) and professional athletes are also generally very gifted physically.
 
I don't mean to be rude but that's a pretty easy thing to work out. In lament terms. You go up you must come down. Your body has been artificially releasing mass amounts of chemicals and burning borrowed energy. The bank don't got no more energy for you. Do some investments in healthy diet and don't borrow for a while.
 
your 100% right but i think he was using the speed more to enhance his training then loose weight... if thats what u meant when you said to invest in a healthy diet??
 
I suggested a healthy diet because of the energy gains not for weight loss.
 
hello hello ,

i no what you mean , i posted the thread belarki referred you too.
i have noticed not only while working out it may be at work or anywhere , the (speed or ice) used to really make things better and now it can be the opposite . even with in the same week and same gear it can ruin a night or day from been edgy , wired, fried(confused),
tweaked so to speak . but at the same time can also make it great full of beans, organised , willing and clear minded . what causes these differences ? possibly your mind state , sleep your body dealing with the foreign substance ??
i wouldnt have a clue
 
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