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Amanita Pantherina (Panther Mushrooms)

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KavemanCam

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I consider myself well versed in psychedelix, particularly entheogens (I study shamanism), but I was stunned to have never heard of the Panther Mushrooms before today. I kind of stumbled upon them while buying other shamantic medicines. I have experiences with a half oz of Shrooms (multiple times), 30 mg of 2c-p and 10 grams of shrooms, 4 grams of MDVP over the course of 48 hours, 300mg lines of ketamine, and have smoked 500+mg of dmt more than 10 times. I only provide this information so that SWIM can understand my drug intake in comparison to wanting to feel a strong+ trip. My questions directly are:
1. Should I obtain fresh or dried A. Pantherina?
2. How is fresh A. Pantherina prepared?
3. What dosage would provide a strong+ trip?
4. How have A. Pantherina benefitted you?

*These are legal in the USA as of now and I'd like to try them before they are crammed into an analogue category or scheduled.
 
We don't SWIM here dude. Also, consult Erowid. A. pantherina is likely to be similar to A. muscaria in terms of effects.
 
sekio said:
We don't SWIM here dude. Also, consult Erowid. A. pantherina is likely to be similar to A. muscaria in terms of effects.
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SWIM quite literally means SWIM in this case if you didn't realize I took responsibility of my own drug use. I just said SWIM to indicate empathy for my own drug intake. It's just like saying lol or OP. I used it correctly and honestly so I don't see the problem.
 
Sorry, that's almost a reflex response I have now :x

Pantherinas are apparently much more rich in muscimol, the active componenet in A. muscaria, so doses are likely to be much smaller. Nor more than 1/4 cap, for sure.
 
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I've heard from experienced psychonauts that A. Pantherina is something no one would ever want to do more than once (for the experience). Even though they're willing to dose A. Muscaria multiple times, they wouldn't touch Pantherina again.

You say you have experience with shrooms, but what about Muscaria?
 
Muscaria and Pantherina have the same active chemical that causes the trip,"mucimol". There is a higher concentration of mucimol in Pantherina. I've also heard that the Pantherina cause much less nausea, which is a big benefit due to my stomach tumor. I've not tried either though to answer your question. Muscaria mushrooms look freaking sweet though if I do say so myself.
 
Probably not a lot of people have experience, as A.muscaria is much more common and an order of magnitude safer.

i suggest you look in the Erowid Experience Vaults, at the amanita experiences, if you want first hand descriptions. It is generally understood tha amanita mushrooms are much, much different than psilocybin mushrooms, and overall less desirable as an intoxicant because they tend more towards a delerium rather than psychedela.
 
KavemanCam said:
Muscaria and Pantherina have the same active chemical that causes the trip,"mucimol". There is a higher concentration of mucimol in Pantherina. I've also heard that the Pantherina cause much less nausea, which is a big benefit due to my stomach tumor. I've not tried either though to answer your question. Muscaria mushrooms look freaking sweet though if I do say so myself.
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Regardless of the fact that they both contain the same active ingredient, they also contain a number of other chemicals that alter the trip. In the same way that Peyote and San Pedro both contain mescaline but can produce vastly different tries.

Muscaria is considered safer because the potency and dosage are better known.
 
I think I've decided that I'll probably just do Muscaria, but which caps provide the most visual high? I've heard the siberian caps, but they're only Grade A as opposed to the grade A+ available to me from Washington D.C. and what would be a good dose for a strong first trip?
 
I finally decided to buy Amanita Muscaria grade A Latvian caps if anyone knows anything on dosage and experience with these particular type of shrooms the information would be much appreciated as they will be here in 2 days!
 
i never found amanita muscaria to have any desirable effects, at most i would feel intoxicated in a drunken sort of way and at worst i would sweat like a pig till my clothes, blankets etc. were soaked and throw up.

KavemanCam said:
SWIM quite literally means SWIM in this case if you didn't realize I took responsibility of my own drug use. I just said SWIM to indicate empathy for my own drug intake. It's just like saying lol or OP. I used it correctly and honestly so I don't see the problem.
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this makes no sense bro.
 
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I have experiences with a half oz of Shrooms (multiple times),
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Wow - that's 16 grams - you have bigger balls than me bro - I assume you are talking about dry weight.

Have you ever done any trip reports of a dose this high, would love to read them if you have, I did 8 grams once and scared myself silly, settled on between 4 and 5 as my sweet dose.
 
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Wow - that's 16 grams - you have bigger balls than me bro - I assume you are talking about dry weight.

Have you ever done any trip reports of a dose this high, would love to read them if you have, I did 8 grams once and scared myself silly, settled on between 4 and 5 as my sweet dose.
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This would be dry weight in shrooms and I put trip reports on erowid... =/. And half an oz is only 14 grams. I just received my Amanita Muscaria today and look foward to eating 10 grams of the Latvian grade A caps tonight. I'll defintely be sure to put that experience on here tomorrow.
 
I've never had those but i do know they are legal I ordered 2 ounces of A. Muscaria and they came to the door in 3 days no problem. So as of now i think it is safe to buy.
 
I ate 10 grams as planned. I really didn't enjoy myself. After 2 hours I felt weird. Off baseline. After 3 hours I felt even more off of baseline. After 4 hours I was feeling rather weightless and sloppy almost like being heavily drunk but my thoughts were still clear. I had a strong desire to sleep and 4 hours after consumption I fell asleep for 9 hours and woke up back at baseline. I was overall disappointed with my experience and advise a stronger strain like possibly Washington state A+ caps around September or late august, for a more visual trip.
 
To all who may come across this thread... the Amanitas used in Shamanism... all of them no matter the type or the culture and therefore...and especially the Native American Pantherina of the West US ...(including the Indiana Brown variants which are Pantherina)... should know that before ingesting Amanita, it must be heat air dried to eliminate their toxic effects ...specifically the "Ibotenic Acid" which all psychoactive Amanita's contain. Anyone who doesn't know that from their teacher/mentor does... or did not have a Shaman for a mentor... just a wanna-be.

Also, since the Patherina grows ...with and in a symbiotic relationship with Conifers (Pine Trees) ...the prerequisites or knowledge of their habitat, identification, gathering and especially the wood burning air drying procedures and rituals as well as the ceremonies... are a must know for those who are brought to the Pantherina's guardian spirit of awareness. There is a saying to always keep in mind:
"Preparation meeting opportunity with invitation brings reward... Opportunity without preparation and invitation brings disaster."
 
Ive never heard of anyone being happy with amanitas they bought of the internet, just pick you own man they will reward you for your trouble.

They are really easy to find if you go somewhere they grow.

And also dry them completely powder em and then make tea of the powder.
 
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