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Opioids Am I the only one on the planet who prefers methadone to heroin?

Bomb319

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Methadone MAINTENANCE that is.I am on 200 mg daily, and have been in the program since January. If I take my daily dose in the morning on an empty stomach and preferely after using antacids, I still get a strong and highly pleasurable and euphoric buzz. It creeps up slowly about 30-45 min after dosing, and in roughly an hour it peaks to a fairly intense and solid opiate high, warmth and relaxation. This feeling for me lasts at least a few hours, becomes relatively unnoticeable when I'm out and about during the day, but returns at night while in bed - particularly if I take Benadrly to help me sleep. This is certainly not placebo as the effects are much too strong, my pupils are pinpoint etc. and as an 8 year veteran opiate user, I know what every opiate feels like.

It's this above all else that keeps me clean and makes my MMT so successful. I've tried to use heroin (IV) many times while on this dose to see if I would feel it or break through it. Of course its almost impossible. I refuse to be careless, so I will only ever try up to a quarter at once of new stuff, but I have had access to the best and most pure, and the most it does for me is make me feel a slight to moderate rush, then fade imperceptibly into the background. It even seems to precipitate some form of mild withdrawal, as my pupils actually become BIGGER! So any heroin use for me now is a monumental waste of cash, and does more harm than good since I withdraw earlier the following day.

But even in my early days where I had little to no tolerance, a shot of good dope would have me in bliss of course, but the odd thing is, the feeling I get NOW on MAINTENANCE comes very close to rivaling this and in fact is superior in many ways (slow but strong come-up, much longer lasting, no need to IV, and a definite powerful sense of euphoria). I've just never heard of maintenance dosing doing that for anyone so I'm wondering what could be causing this. I am a fast metabolizer, and can definitely begin yawning and sneezing 24 hours after my last dose. I know everyone says that MMT is to make you feel "normal" not high, but the reason I'm posting this is because this presents a curious situation for me:

I badly wanted and needed to quit opiates, and methadone has been extremely successful in doing that for me - a feat I thought I would never be able to do. But the fact that I'm getting high from it and it isn't fading even after 6 months shows that I'm still enjoying the high, making it into more of the wrong reasons for using. That said, I've gotten my life back - family and friends, money, a full time job where I'm being praised by everyone for my hard work, no more association with criminal activity. In other words, everything methadone is supposed to do. It's saved my life, but in a way that seems different from the experience of others. I know 200 mg is a very high dose, but again I've been on it for months and I have no reduction of euphoria. I was quite a heavy heroin user before treatment of course, or I would never have been prescribed such a high dose. Has anyone else experienced this, and any advice on how this may impact my treatment?
 
I would rather take Methadone that H all day long :P just me though also. The problem with H is some dood on the corner of the street gets it for you. M is a pharm = you know what your getting and it works every time
 
I prefer kratom, bupe and even norco to heroin. Why? Heroin is too strong for me, the increased strength of heroin means more tolerance but not necessarily more euphoria. If I take 40 mg hydrocodone, I get very euphoric off that but without increasing my opiate tolerance too much. Whenever I use heroin for a couple of days, after that I can't enjoy any other opioids for 1-3 days til my tolerance gets back down.
 
I seem to pefer buprenorphine to heroin so no your not weird many think the same thing and you can relax and enjoy your high not worry about hoe your gonna make enough money for the next fix and you know your dose is gonna be there the next day.

Its not a surprise that much opiates would make you feel good thats basically an 8ball to a 1/4 ounce a day of heroin depending on purity , methadone is a strong substance.
 
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I am Still on methadone … took some tramadol to switch over ... and tapering to abstinence, but so grateful I'm not on Heroin for a few days now. I tapered off that… then jumped on methadone. Just the relief of not waking up completely ill and needing to use has cleared my conscience so much. 'Any' longer acting opiate I say is better than H… regardless… Heroin employed me full time, and was affecting my real job… amongst a list of other life's necessities. It's better for me anyway, as it's not all consuming.

I also preferred subs when I had them, but oh well… I don't want to call in and have it on my record I guess…. I got the methadone from a friend.
 
Getting free and legal opiates daily without having to go through the daily hell of waking up sick, doing crazy things to get cash, tracking down your dealers, having to wait for them while crazy sick, finally shooting up in a public bathroom somewhere because I couldn't wait to get home, compulsively using the rest that day, and finally repeating the same cycle over again each day...was killing me. My life was destroyed as I lost family friends, hobbies, etc. Now methadone is giving it all back to me, however since I get high from it and look forward to that aspect of it, it feels like I'm not actually becoming clean. A steady source of heroin would have done the same thing.
 
Well yea man thats how it is being on methadone isnt being clean in my opinion. You got to decide can i stay clran without anything or am i the type of person who needs opiates for the rest of my life. Im on Suboxone anf i cant say im clean since this still gets me buzzed out and is an opiate all thats changed is my supply is basically endless so life is easier to maintain. Its a good thing though staying clean is next to impossible for most addicts the pull is just too strong i would rather see someone happy on this stuff rather than relapsing and constantly trying to detox then stay clean.
 
I think that it's mostly the change of lifestyle that comes with maintenance that can make methadone or buprenorphine seem better than heroin. It's hard to relax when you know that soon you will have to go out and perhaps look for your drug. Unless you nod off and completely stop caring... When I couldn't get morphine in my city and I had to travel almost 200 km to get heroin, I soon switched to methadone. Although it wasn't maintenance, it was a lot less fuss. Going to school and buying higher quantities of heroin doesn't really work well for too long. I bought more so it lasted me longer, but instead I was taking more and more, and I had less and less money. I did get high from methadone for some time but its high is dull and uninteresting. With morphine-like opioids it's different, but then again I was the most productive on codeine because it's much weaker than morphine/heroin. And when I started regularly nodding, I soon forgot about the world around me. With benzodiazepines in the background that period of my life is now like one big blank page. I'm sure that I would have continued using morphine if I had had an easy access to it, but then again I don't know if I would be here now.

Buprenorphine is again different. The subtle high from codeine did make more productive than I was when I was sober. When I can feel buprenorphine, and that rarely happens, it doesn't motivate me to do anything, most of the time it's much more subtle than codeine was, but it also lacks character. Well, whatever, it's all long past me now and I just want to quit it for good because I'm so sick and tired already.
 
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