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Am I the only one here who hates all the issues surrounding LSD? Do I care too much..

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- Flaky dealers or individuals with (or claiming to have) access to it

- You never know exactly how much you're getting, you depend on "trust," but see #1.

- It is actually possible to get a substance that isn't LSD, unlike the BS "laced pot"

- It's 1/3rd of the safe, forgiving group (Pot, Shrooms, LSD) but unlike the other two, you can't make it by yourself.

- You can't actively seek it. The trick is that, if it's around you, then you will get to know people who have it. If it isn't, there isn't much you can do about it.

- Unlike either shrooms or pot or damn near anything (possibly E), there is an aura around it that no other psychedelic has: It's life changing, it's the standard, it's the best, it's the most recreational, you will forever be a better person, welcome to the club, "Turn on, tune in, drop out"

- Even if you do everything under the sun except LSD, because of the above, you will always feel like you're missing out. This leads to feeling the way I feel about it.

I can't be the only one. Every forum I've seen has many people expressing the same sentiments.

It just frustrates me, I wish there wasn't so much bullshit. I wish it wasn't hyped up so goddamn much. If it isn't as good as everyone says it is, one day I'll look back at this and marvel at how brilliant the promotion was. It's so appealing... the way I imagine having pure LSD and ingesting a tiny piece that leads to a wonderland... *sigh*

I've actually enjoyed some trips less than I would have otherwise because I kept thinking "wow, I wonder how LSD compares to this? it's probably better even though this is great, LSD is probably phenomenal and would make this look like nonsense."
 
Good real clean LSD *IS* that worth it. I've tried a dozen different psychedelics and combos thereof.

LSD: no bodyload... at some point you just start to feel this almost psychic opening of your mental state and you slowly start to see tracers, then, depending on dose, other types of psychedelic visuals. In general, on reasonable doses, you do NOT have ego-loss, maintain the ability to think and be aware of what is going on with you and around you, yet you have this "super-vision" as well as a mental high that leaves you thinking all sorts of cosmic thoughts and feeling like you are now ultra-sensitive to detecting all kinds of things that those without the drug have no clue are going on.

Oh, and closing your eyes and listening to music will have you feeling like you're on a galactic voyage into the heart of the universe, during which all sorts of things are revealed to you.

Other things have aspects of this, but LSD's "package" is very special and nearly perfect.

I'm not a dealer, I don't know you and have no reason whatsoever to be trying to "act superior". This is just my honest opinion after trying lots of different things.

Man, you are in NYC!!! Go hang out in the Village. Been awhile, is it East Greenwich Village that's the coolest enclave? Meet some freaks. Go to their alternate lifestyle freak nightclubs. Make new friends. Be genuine, likable, entertaining. Help people. LSD will find you sooner rather than later if you do these things.
 
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Yes. What above person said. LSD will find you, when you are ready. Be patient my friend
 
phew said:
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- It's 1/3rd of the safe, forgiving group (Pot, Shrooms, LSD) but unlike the other two, you can't make it by yourself.
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If you make up your own terms of measurement, make sure you note it imo.
 
yeah, for me it totally is that worth it. ive never experienced a state of mind so wholesome, enlightening and intellectually stimulating. no bodyload, clear and lucid, no hangover, and for me i can fall asleep like nothing happened by hour 10-12 depending on how much i took, waking up refreshed with a bright outlook, ready to handle whatever comes my way because thats just life, and life is beautiful.
i view it as the pinnacle of modern psychedelic development between the lucidity, profundity, and incredible physiological safety. i cant understand how so many people view it as such a "hardcore" thing thats so bad and extreme because to quote a good friend of mine on his first acid trip "i wanna, like.... give this to my mom"
 
phew said:
LSD is probably phenomenal and would make this look like nonsense."
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Don't get me wrong... a nice strong extremely clean LSD trip does have a certain "gourmet" quality about it that is wondrous and unlike anything else.

BUT: that does NOT mean other psychedelics can all be called "nonsense"! shrooms, some 2C-x, DOx, 5-meo-dmt, n,n-dmt, many tryptamines can definitely still give very intense, powerful, enlightening cosmic experiences!

So don't let that you're not doing LSD spoil any more of your other trips with some kind of silly psychedelic envy!
 
Actually, most of the points you start with don't hold true for multiple circles of people I know. And in this country you can get LSD tested, not even qualified but also quantified.

Finally, I do agree that it's very hard to find LSD actively when you have not accessed such circles yet but strangely it has gotten easier and easier for me over time - but more importantly I might not think it's such a bad thing that not everyone can just get some acid on a whim. Makes you more conscious about the whole thing.
 
I'd say in my experience that higher dose LSD certainly has that psychedelic wonderland quality, but low dose LSD is among the least difficult and psychedelic experiences I've had. It's fun and comfortable, but not much to write home about.
 
If you can't get acid, there are several that are as good or better that you should be able to get.

Mescaline, you can find in cactus easily ordered over the Interbutts.

DET, you can synthesize. This is very difficult compared to even the easiest extraction, but it's about as easy as synthesis gets*.

DMT, you can extract from mimosa hostilis root bark, easily available over the Interbutts.

These three, I think most people would prefer them to LSD.

* I don't think this counts as synthesis discussion, since I'm not going to mention the actual synthesis of the stuff.

And I know-a-guy who has made LSD. True story.
 
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And I know-a-guy who has made LSD. True story.
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Dat quad dipped needle point straight from the rainbow family cult?!?!?! No way, go let everybody on the internet know! =D

I love legendary LSD stories that are spread across the internet, lol.

That being said, having half a sheet of bomb blotter a year ago was amazing. LSD is one of my favorite psychedelics even though I haven't done it in a while now.
 
^ It could have happened, I'm just playing around about those sorts of people who come on here with a few posts, can't type, seem cracked out, and then talk about buying ten bajillion vials from some legendary hippie tribe that they always know that also happens to be carrying out global missions lol.
 
atara said:
If you can't get acid, there are several that are as good or better that you should be able to get.

Mescaline, you can find in cactus easily ordered over the Interbutts.

DET, you can synthesize. This is very difficult compared to even the easiest extraction, but it's about as easy as synthesis gets*.

DMT, you can extract from mimosa hostilis root bark, easily available over the Interbutts.

These three, I think most people would prefer them to LSD.

* I don't think this counts as synthesis discussion, since I'm not going to mention the actual synthesis of the stuff.
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I'm aware of all this. I'm aware that there are many experiences far more powerful (and easily obtainable) than LSD.

Think of me as an art collector (or an anything collector, really) who sees LSD as the one "must-have" piece. That's how it works, right? You love all the others, but you'll always be more attracted to the one that isn't in your collection. It stems from this desire to have had them all.

Now I'm reminded me of my younger years, where I'd want so much and felt that it wasn't fair that things would finally come to me when I didn't care either way. My friends and I would believe that once we were older and all our desires were falling into our laps, we'd all be so bitter about it that we'd never enjoy the things we so desperately desired before. In a way, we were right. I didn't enjoy some things as much when I finally got to experience them because I felt that it was too late and I was too old to be experimenting with such things: fail. I know you're not supposed to be attached either way. Whether it comes or not, life must still go on. But it's difficult to let go and be happy.

If I truly stopped wanting it so much, then by the time I get it, who knows how I'll feel. Let's say I do everything else I can (which, admittedly, is a lot) and then I get a hold of LSD. What happens if the experience is blunted because I feel foolish for having wanted it so badly earlier? I would've been happy if I had it earlier, but I won't be as happy if I have it later. If I don't get it at all, that's one source of happiness gone from my life.

Meditation becomes more valuable each day for dealing with issues like this. I'd be a wreck if I couldn't clear my mind and refocus from time to time. This still bothers me, but it's not that bad. Just disappointing.
 
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phew said:
- Flaky dealers or individuals with (or claiming to have) access to it

- You never know exactly how much you're getting, you depend on "trust," but see #1. Same as pretty much every other drug.

- It is actually possible to get a substance that isn't LSD, unlike the BS "laced pot" Same as almost, no, every other drug.

- It's 1/3rd of the safe, forgiving group (Pot, Shrooms, LSD) but unlike the other two, you can't make it by yourself. Debatable

- You can't actively seek it. The trick is that, if it's around you, then you will get to know people who have it. If it isn't, there isn't much you can do about it. Debatable

- Unlike either shrooms or pot or damn near anything (possibly E), there is an aura around it that no other psychedelic has: It's life changing, it's the standard, it's the best, it's the most recreational, you will forever be a better person, welcome to the club, "Turn on, tune in, drop out" Debatable.. that's your opinion, not everyone elses.

- Even if you do everything under the sun except LSD, because of the above, you will always feel like you're missing out. This leads to feeling the way I feel about it. See above.

I can't be the only one. Every forum I've seen has many people expressing the same sentiments.

It just frustrates me, I wish there wasn't so much bullshit. I wish it wasn't hyped up so goddamn much. If it isn't as good as everyone says it is, one day I'll look back at this and marvel at how brilliant the promotion was. It's so appealing... the way I imagine having pure LSD and ingesting a tiny piece that leads to a wonderland... *sigh*

I've actually enjoyed some trips less than I would have otherwise because I kept thinking "wow, I wonder how LSD compares to this? it's probably better even though this is great, LSD is probably phenomenal and would make this look like nonsense."
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Comments in red.

Wait.. You've never even tried it?
 
So far I haven't found LSD to be any more special than some of my other favorites like 2C-E, 4-AcO-DMT, aMT and 2C-B. I had a bunch of it early on in my psychedelic taking history, but as I have discovered other psychedelics, it seems much less on a pedestal that some people seem to put it on for some reason. To me it is a good chemical, and I enjoy it very much, but just one of many I enjoy very much. Try not to focus so much on things you can't get, and focus on what you can get and enjoy it. I thought LSD was pretty much out of my life after almost 10 years of not coming across it, but then just recently I came across it again and was able to experience it almost like it was the first time once again. Right now there's so many worthwhile drugs to experience, there's no reason to get hung up on just one.
 
LSD is pretty lame compared to a great many other psychedelics IMO.
 
I think YOU are the one putting LSD on a pedestal OP, and you have not even tried it.
This sounds to me more like you wasted some money on some bunk acid and are just upset with your luck.

LSD isnt the answer to the universe.

It is one substance that may or may not help you find the questions your loooking to answer though.

Just like all psyches. Although the effects profile is slightly more positive than many other less straight to the point psyches.
 
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