Am i doin it rit, morning glories

[H2SO4_so_tasty]

Sorry if i seem fucked up or not, i really cant tell if i am.

I have been soaking 22 grams of ground morning glory seeds in everclear and citric acid, it has been several days and i have filtered it out, and drained it to yeild a yellow fluid, 60 ml. I just drank 30 of it mixed with orange juice and milk (dont ask) and i am feeling a bit disconnected and strange, i have logic holes i think, 30 minutes before drinking this i had a turkey sandwich with toasted bread, it has been about 15 minutes since i drank it, feeling a bit strange, is this normal, do i need to wait more? I might go drink the rest but I'm not sure if that is a good idea.

PS. sorry if I am a bit incoherent

 

[Shambles]

Well, if it's only been 15 minutes and you drank it shortly after eating I would imagine it'll take a while to fully hit you. I've never used MGS but I have used HBWR many times and if they're similar then the comeup can take quite a while. If you can't quite tell if you're fucked up then you're quite probably well on the way to being fucked up, I'd say

I've redosed HBWR repeatedly in a session and it seems to work okay so if you're not where you want to be in another hour or so maybe drink the rest of it but it sounds like it's just a slow comeup to me. Have fun and feel free to drop into PD Social if you fancy chatting to likeminded folks about weird trippy shit that occurs to you whilst tripping. I can highly recommend it

 

[H2SO4_so_tasty]

i don't know, i felt odd and it went away after an hour or so, it might have been the alcohol, but it felt diffrent, another question, LSD is destroyed by bases, i could normaly do the agent lemon extraction for DXM, i have done caffiene that way, but i would need to baseify it first and then turn it back into a hydrocitrate or hydrochloride salt, i have experience in organic chemistry. I just dont know if the lsa would survive a treatment of NaOH or CaCO3, what do you think?

also all the extractions i have seen on the web are weird, they seem to be copied from one source, and there is no explianation as to the mechanism, it involves crushing the seeds and soaking them in a nonpolar solvent, and then re filtering the seeds through a polar solvent and keeping the polar solvent and disposing of the nonpolar one, this doesnt make sense to me, alkaliods are usually a freebase when they are in the plant and are therefore nonpolar, and the poisions are mostly cyanogens and the cyanide substituent is HIGHLY polar so it should not be solueble in nonpolar solvents, I just dont know whats going on.

 

[Shambles]

Afraid I really don't know much about LSA extractions although there is apparently a good one or two in the main HBWR/MGS thread. Personally I've never felt the need to extract LSA but I've only used HBWR seeds myself and don't experience any nasty bodyload or nausea on them. Although I've never used MGS, from what I've read HBWR seems to be a better choice for LSA and would recommend you maybe try those instead of MGS if you want a good LSA experience.

 

[anarchogen]

eating around 50 packs of blue morning glory seeds works for me, the whole store shelf of them basically.

 

[ManRider]

Though I've never used morning glories, hbwr, etc., I've read about them extensively on www.thenook.org and it seems like the best option is to use morning glory seeds (not hbrw, though they work as well) and to do a cold water extraction, which is basically making a tea by soaking the finely ground seeds in cold distilled water for a half hour or so. They also did some experiments suggesting that preparing this tea then adding peppermint oil and a little bit of alcohol and consuming it all will result in a more stimulating trip more akin to LSD than the typical trip provided by morning glories and hbrw. If interested in using these substances I strongly recommend looking into this methods on the nook's chemistry subforum.

 

[Kaneh Bosm]

I have had consistently positive experiences with morning glory seeds. My first successful trip, I chewed them and had a pretty potent experience, but the taste was unbearable. The next few times I tried it I would grind them up and add them to something to cover the taste.

Generally just over a hundred seeds does it for me.

 

[Xorkoth]

LSA-containing seeds take about 4 hours to peak, and 2 hours to really even fully start.

11 grams of MG seeds is not a lot, and when extracted it's even less. You probably will not get strong effects.

Please see the Big and Dandy LSA Thread for more information, and if you have more questions, please post them in that thread.