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Frumious Bandersnatch
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Let’s not get nasty folks. On another note, I have to strongly agree with jdfisse. But to the above post...
I think the point is that there are quite a bit more requirements for addiction than simply someone who drinks on a daily basis. In AA and the DSM, the emphasis is on the effects of the alcohol use, such as whether it is making ones life in unmanageable or continuing to drink despite negative consequences. It’s more about the harm associated with drug use than the mere existence of drug use.
The point Is that drinking or using a drug on a daily basis itself is not nearly enough to qualify one as either an addict or someone with substance use disorder. Many who experience addiction or substance use disorder do use on a daily basis, but by the same token a lot of people can have similarly harmful patterns of substance use qualifying one for addiction/SUD and NOT use on a daily or weekly or even monthly basis (there are plenty of examples of this in the Big Book for instance, as well as plenty of instances if medical literature).
They migh not have said it very kindly, but that is basically the idea. The notion that using a drug alone is enough to qualify one for addiction is a notion that has done an incredibly amount of harm, and not just to people in recovery. That was probably where the vehemence of their post is coming from.
I think the point is that there are quite a bit more requirements for addiction than simply someone who drinks on a daily basis. In AA and the DSM, the emphasis is on the effects of the alcohol use, such as whether it is making ones life in unmanageable or continuing to drink despite negative consequences. It’s more about the harm associated with drug use than the mere existence of drug use.
The point Is that drinking or using a drug on a daily basis itself is not nearly enough to qualify one as either an addict or someone with substance use disorder. Many who experience addiction or substance use disorder do use on a daily basis, but by the same token a lot of people can have similarly harmful patterns of substance use qualifying one for addiction/SUD and NOT use on a daily or weekly or even monthly basis (there are plenty of examples of this in the Big Book for instance, as well as plenty of instances if medical literature).
They migh not have said it very kindly, but that is basically the idea. The notion that using a drug alone is enough to qualify one for addiction is a notion that has done an incredibly amount of harm, and not just to people in recovery. That was probably where the vehemence of their post is coming from.
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