cAMP
Greenlighter
I'd like to try 250. From what I've heard its kinda of a mental high. More trippy, sativa like.
Anyone tried it?
Anyone tried it?
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Am-694
cAMP
Greenlighter
I'd like to try 250. From what I've heard its kinda of a mental high. More trippy, sativa like.
Anyone tried it?
structural entropy
Bluelighter
I also purposefully used a lot of it just to see what would happen at higher doses. At one point, I was able to get 'waves' slightly reminiscent of JWH-018, but it was very short lasting.
fryingsquirrel
Bluelighter
My state has outlawed 18 and 73 so I've been trying 250 quite alot lately. It feels sort of like 018 but the potency is maybe half (not really a bad thing), but honestly I'm not very good at subjective differences. I mean I couldn't tell one benzo from another or 4oh/aco-whatever from 4oh/aco-whatever else. It's gets me ripped out of my mind, doesn't show up on a UA, and is legal as talcum powder. Good enough for me
I'd like to try 250. From what I've heard its kinda of a mental high. More trippy, sativa like.
Anyone tried it?
Mild headache, some diarrhea. I'm lethargic most of the time with or without weed or related cannabinoids, so that's not much I had been smoking weed at the same time as smoking the am-694, but when compared against something like weed, weed clearly wins out. It is somewhat long lived, but it does not 'feel' as clean as jwh-073, the effect compared to 073 is slightly stronger, but not as relaxing. I find myself needing to redose artificial cannabinoids after 20-30 minutes, just to feel the initial rush again, rather than a point on AM-694's effect being 'over' at that point.
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All in all, it's quite similar to others in the jwh series, I've done 018, 073, and 200. There was no overwhelming panic at higher dosages of am-694 as is common with 018.
Thanks for your responses. What I'm trying to establish is whether there is evidence for or against the hypothesis that AM-694 binds irreversibly to CB1. Were this the case, I would expect that use of AM-694 would lead to rapidly increasing tolerance that drops off very slowly. In other words, you'd be essentially unable to get high from reasonable amounts of cannabinoids or weed for many days or weeks after taking AM-694.
It sounds to me like this has not been your experience, so I would conclude that AM-694 does not bind irreversibly to CB1. ![]()
Has anyone by chance tried this one orally? If not, I'd think it prudent to start very very low (well under 1mg) and titrate as the apparent low potency could also be due to pyrolysis. Of course others here more knowledgeable than I seem to advise against consuming this compound at all.
BlueZenith
Greenlighter
I have been unable to get high from any amount of cannabinoids (natural or synthetic) for over a year, ever since I regularly used weed with a vapouriser (Volcano) for a few months at the start of 2009. Most people seem to report that their tolerance rises quickly and drops off quickly too, but I seem to have a tolerance that rises slowly but never goes back down.
Thanks for your responses. What I'm trying to establish is whether there is evidence for or against the hypothesis that AM-694 binds irreversibly to CB1. Were this the case, I would expect that use of AM-694 would lead to rapidly increasing tolerance that drops off very slowly. In other words, you'd be essentially unable to get high from reasonable amounts of cannabinoids or weed for many days or weeks after taking AM-694.
I remember it was awesome and I had a very low tolerance in the beginning, but after being high most of the time for about two months (which only took about 10 g of weed throughout the period), I no longer got any of the psychedelic/euphoric effects that I used to, even if I waited for weeks or months.
Looking around on the Internet, I found two pieces of advice: to "keep toking until you're high!" and to "dude, give it a rest for a few days". Well, I tried both; consuming lots of weed just makes me sleepy and stupid, and waiting for 3 months didn't lower my tolerance at all as far as I could tell. It's now been well over a year and I've tried vaping weed again every once in a while, but I still can't get high.
I recently tried pure JWH-018 (both orally and vapourised), with pretty much identical effects (or lack thereof); I tried dosing up to 75 mg orally (dissolved in vegetable oil on an empty stomach) and up to 50 mg with the vapouriser, without success. Being a powder it was easier to dose higher, but the only difference at the highest dosages was that I got tachycardia in addition to the stupidity and sleepiness.
Anyway, I have some AM-694 arriving in a few days, which like the JWH-018 I will be sampling my mouth and Volcano. I'm not expecting anything, but I figured I'd give it a try.
structural entropy
Bluelighter
I'm not sure attempting to 'vaporize' artificial cannabinoids will yield much result. Usually we use a pipe for it. Certainly not a volcano or other electric vaporizer.
BlueZenith
Greenlighter
Well, I unmistakably got the same effects as I did from taking it orally, and it certainly disappeared from the filling chamber, so it seems a Volcano on setting 9 is sufficient for JWH-018.
I'm not sure attempting to 'vaporize' artificial cannabinoids will yield much result. Usually we use a pipe for it. Certainly not a volcano or other electric vaporizer.
I prefer not to combust my drugs.
structural entropy
Bluelighter
I'm only familiar with box vaporizers
But man, one wishes Volcanoes weren't so goddamn expensive.
50 bucks for a box vaporizer vs ... 600 on a volcano. Man.
mad_scientist
Bluelighter
Plus you can taste the iodine when smoked. It has a very distinct metallic taste.
nice
structural entropy
Bluelighter
Well, the taste is subtle, nothing overpowering. Perhaps I should have said subtle. but you can taste what seems like iodine.
hamhurricane
Bluelighter
unless you are a chemist who works with elemental iodine you probably have only been exposed to salts of iodine or much more likely Povidone-iodine - TBH I'm not sure how these smell/taste in comparison to elemental iodine but i would not be surprised if there is a significant difference. also it has not been established that iodine is freed from the benzene ring during metabolism and/or pyrolysis so i would not be too certain anything you taste is actually iodine...
structural entropy
Bluelighter
Oh. What I seem to associate is a 'salt-like' taste, that I have also gotten from 2c-i snorted. So there seems to be some way in which iodine can uniquely effect the taste of a substance. But... I have no idea what I'm talking about. But there is a slightly metallic taste that I assumed to be from the iodine. It could be from the flourine for all I know.
cAMP
Greenlighter
Doesn't snoring 2c-i hurt as fuck?
fryingsquirrel
Bluelighter
Absolutely. Pretty much 2c-anything burns like snorting lye. Or so I would imagine anyway, don't feel like snorting lye so I can make a truely accurate comparison
Doesn't snoring 2c-i hurt as fuck?
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Limpet_Chicken
Bluelighter
It hurts, badly.
I once had a small lump of metallic sodium shoot up my nose from an cell electrolysing molten NaOH as a lil kid, of course covered in fused, molten lye.
It stung like fury and left a small pit in my septum.
Don't try it, it has nothing to reccomend it.
structural entropy
Bluelighter
But the taste of AM-694 is distinctly different from the taste of many in the jwh series, isn't it?
Yassin Rahman
Greenlighter
I am testing this chemical tommorow. I will have a medical professional present, and wil moniter my vitals throughout. I have an immense tolerance to synth cannabinoids and DO NOT freak out, period. I can take a 50 mg hit of 018 and never have a moment of anxiety, so if this stuff does make me Uber CB-1 activate, to the point that i stay fully bound till the receptor is destroyed, well to me that sounds like what I've been looking for. And it doesn't take a week for that to happen, more like 12 hours, if memory serves me.
Yassin Rahman
Greenlighter
can anyone advise as to potency using 018 as a yardstick?