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(Am-694) First time: Finally tried it!

Haddaway

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I received my AM-694 along with an order of jwh073. I smoked all of the 073 before even attempting to touch the AM694(the whole gram in about 2 days) MAGNIFICENT QUALITY. Now, just so you guys know my cannabinoid tolerance is THROUGH THE ROOF. I regularly pack a minimum of 50mg bowls and up to 300mg+ of 018 or 073, (which in my opinion is a much better version of 018, much more euphoric and relaxing, while the 018 can give me a lot of anxiety and make me very tense, which is the opposite of relaxed). And it also is quite impossible for me to get high from weed of any quality (unless of course I happen to be on DXM at the time).

Now for the report of the AM-694 substance. I had quite some paranoia with trying it for a few days. All this speculation of possible toxic effects, carcinogenic possiblity, etc. It's all very humbling. To me though, I didn't see much to worry about (doesn't mean I didn't worry quite a bit anyway!). Initially, my research partner who may love cannabinoids a bit more than me (seems hard to believe) tried quite a small dose (1mg) and worked up from there. I believe he used up to 15mg (after multiple trials) with some appreciable effect but nothing intense, he described it as a less demanding high than what JWH would give you. His tolerance is about a tenth as high as mine. Once I ran out of the 073, I knew it was only a matter of time until I started smoking the AM-694.

I had many trials yesterday (my first day testing it, and it has left me with quite a positive impression) I would estimate (did not use my mg scale, my tolerance is so high its a lot safer to dose for me) I started out with 15mg, which had almost no effect. I would guess I built up to around 50mg or so. I wouldn't be surprised if I had used 75mg at the peak.

Here is the PROS and CONS I have come up with for AM694.

PROS:
-This perhaps was the biggest PRO for me because the #1 thing I hated about 018 (which is the longest lasting JWH) was that it lasted barely an hour or so for me and then I would have to compulsively redose over and over ALL DAY. Which made me draw the analogy of, as cocaine is to crack, marijuana is to 018. The AM-694 had a duration (EXTREMELY similar to weed, which was about 3 hours or so for me), and the quality of the high didn't diminish as time went on! This was an amazing part of the cannabinoid.
- The high was very different from the JWH's I've tried (am extremely familiar with 018, and 073, having smoked probably at least 40g of both put together) as just like my friend said.. It wasn't as demanding of a high, especially for my attention. It was more of an EXTREMELY relaxing high, as all my muscles were QUITE relaxed, and tension was not noted ANYWHERE (quite uncommon for me as I have fibromyalgia, and is quite an important aspect of a cannabinoid). The high was actually VERY subtle (and this caused me to use quite a high dose for this cannabinoid which was 75mg or so, while if that same proportion was used for 018 I usuallt would have INTENSE anxiety ) This has led me to believe that while the active dose is somewhat smaller than 018 it was QUITE exaggerated (0.08nM, MY ASS, move over a decimal point and then we'll talk), I would say it's about active at half the dose of 018. Also, even though the active dose is half as small as 018 I believe it would be quite harder to overdose or "get way too high". The reason for this being is the type of highs both give you are completely different. When you get too high from 018 it immediately results in extreme paranoid and anxiety (at least for me), when I got too high from the AM-694 it resulted in almost ZERO paranoia and anxiety, and instead I felt quite lightheaded and happy instead.
- One of the main reasons I got so dependent and my tolerance rocketed so high to cannabis was because I had HORRIBLE insomnia and cannabis seemed to be the only thing with minimal side effects that put me RIGHT to sleep every night! It was a godsend. I also used it to self treat my fibromyalgia (unknowingly, as I didn't even get diagnosed until a couple months ago!), and apparently that was a contributing factor to my tolerance rocketing so high. The 018 when used in normal amounts causes stimulation (similar to a pure sativa) and usually doesn't make many people tired. This is quite untrue when smoked in HUGE amounts, as every time I would smoke amounts close to this with 018 I would IMMEDIATELY pass out or come very close to it. The thing was, the quality of sleep it forced me into was very light. I would sleep for 2 hours at most (if it wasn't night time) , and felt extremely unrested and groggy when I woke up and just completely felt like a piece of shit.
WHAT A TURN AROUND WITH THE AM-694!!! Even at very high amounts there was no "passing out" or forcing of going to sleep. It was just an extremely relaxed high that very gently allowed me to go into a PEACEFUL AND DEEP SLEEP!!! When I awoke from my deep AM-694 induced sleep, I had never felt that good in a LONGG time (I felt extremely mentally stable, and my body was aching extremely minimally which is VERY VERY UNCOMMON for me, I was ecstatic!!) It allowed me to sleep 12 uninterrupted hours of DEEP sleep, you guys do not understand how rested I felt this morning. IT WAS AMAZING!. I usually have a hard time getting 8 hours of light sleep, and usually always feel extremely unrested and mentally foggy EVERY MORNING WHEN I WAKE UP. This was the complete opposite. My mind felt sharp, and I felt like I had slept for all the time I ever needed to make up for my horrible sleep cycle. This, as you can see why, was the BIGGEST positive aspect of this new novel cannabinoid. I AM IN LOVE. (Well let me test it for the next few days and see if nothing changes)

Also, I should note it gave me confidence to do a few things that were giving me anxiety about for the last month or so. It literally just made me confident enough to not get paranoid about it, and led me to completely enjoy what I was worrying about.
CONS

-TASTES LIKE BURNING something? With the JWHs I've never noticed a foul taste, there definitely is with this one!! The weird thing is.. I tried some k3 my friend brought over 2 days ago because they randomly started selling it at every gas station in South Florida a week ago or so. I remember how nasty I thought it tasted. Yesterday.. I realized, the AM694 TASTES ALMOST EXACTLY how the K3 tastes. I am almost 100% certain they are putting am-694 as one of the cannabinoids in K3.


WILL ADD MORE INFO AS MY RESEARCH CONTINUES!!

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i love how Am-694 is a form of the other isotope of Am which is Am-241. which by the way is used in the ionization process in smoke detectors. ;) that sounds healthy haha
good thread :) interesting
 
Uhm, no. I'm not sure if that was a joke but am-694 is NOT an isotope of a radioactive element, it is a synthetic cannabinoid. And a rather interesting one it would seem. LOL just noticed the smily face;)
 
Uhm, no. I'm not sure if that was a joke but am-694 is NOT an isotope of a radioactive element, it is a synthetic cannabinoid. And a rather interesting one it would seem. LOL just noticed the smily face;)
Yeah, that guy was DEFINITELY joking. Another con I would like to add is the ceiling of getting high is WAY TOO LOW for am-694. This would be fine with people with regular tolerances, but with my monster tolerance I can smoke 50mg, get high, and then smoke another 60mg right after and not feel any added high.
 
Yo man, sounds like you have a MASSIVE cannabinoid tolerance.

I was wondering, do you get serious withdrawal effects when you can't smoke JWH 018/073/etc?
 
I would say serious in my opinion. It probably has effected my life negatively than some could believe marijuana could. I cant sleep at night without a sedative, I rarely eat unless stoned (and even if I stop for a week I see minimal drop in my tolerance) The thought of stopping for a week scares me, so how can I do more? All I smoke is JWH now because that's the only way I can get high.. (73 is my favorite). If I stop abruptly I get bad muscle aches.
 
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ok, if people are still confused by this joke Am is the abbreviation for the element americium, although there is no such thing as Am-694. the heaviest isotope of americium is Am-249.

anyway
 
Hey, Haddaway (or anyone else that's tried this), what's the time-course of it, smoked? You say, in the OP, that the duration is 3 hours... but how long after smoking are peak effects obtained? Thanks.
 
ok, if people are still confused by this joke Am is the abbreviation for the element americium, although there is no such thing as Am-694. the heaviest isotope of americium is Am-249.

anyway
Yeah, discover Newelement-694 and a Nobel prize in physics awaits you.=D

On topic I would be curious to see a trip report from someone who doesn't have a truely insane tolerance for cannabinoids. Or maybe it would be safer just to legalize weed.
 
Hey, Haddaway (or anyone else that's tried this), what's the time-course of it, smoked? You say, in the OP, that the duration is 3 hours... but how long after smoking are peak effects obtained? Thanks.

Well, with all the JWHs (on an empty stomach), I usually notice the peak or almost peak effects in exactly 5 minutes. With Am-694 it seemed to take slightly longer to absorb. I would say about 6-8 minutes on average on an empty stomach are when peak effects are reached.
 
Well, with all the JWHs (on an empty stomach), I usually notice the peak or almost peak effects in exactly 5 minutes. With Am-694 it seemed to take slightly longer to absorb. I would say about 6-8 minutes on average on an empty stomach are when peak effects are reached.
Cheers, that's very helpful. Do you find stomach contents has an effect on time-to-peak with smoked cannabinoids? I've never noticed that, but then I haven't really noticed it not having an effect either; I just don't know either way.
 
might wanna pump the brakes on this one... you're smoking a compound with no metabolization info known, that has flouride and iodine groups? not smart, smoking a 75mg hit of this could be releasing huge amounts of pure iodine into your system for all you know
 
is there a lab test one could take after smoking am-694 that would confirm or deny this speculation once and for all.
 
You might as well go into a graduate school chemistry lab and start licking dirty spatulas and flasks...
 
might wanna pump the brakes on this one... you're smoking a compound with no metabolization info known, that has flouride and iodine groups? not smart, smoking a 75mg hit of this could be releasing huge amounts of pure iodine into your system for all you know
Partially true. While no public data about AM-964 metabolism is known, the rest of your text is more-or-less misleading.

This compound is not for human consumption, why?
Terminal N-fluoroalkyl chain acts differently from a normal alkyl chain found in JWH-018/-073, and this (AFAIK) potentially causes the molecules to form covalent bond with the CB1-receptor (irreversible activation which leads to receptor internalization, and possible neurotoxic effects). N-fluoroalkyl group is metabolized into unbound molecule from AM-694, this makes it a potential alkylating agent which cause cancer. Also i'd like to test what AM-694 smoke/vapor contains before making anybody smoke it..

In a nutshell, AM-694 is quite radically different from JWH-018 and -073, and no human in vivo testing has been done other than a couple of user reports.
 
N-fluoroalkyl group is metabolized into unbound molecule from AM-694, this makes it a potential alkylating agent which cause cancer.
Are we talking about AM-694 causing cancer in much the way that smoking tobacco does; i.e. prolonged exposure produces an appreciable chance of getting cancer in the long run, or something significantly more certain to (or quick to) cause cancer than tobacco? Just roughly, I mean; is this the same sort of risk, or something much worse?

Btw, I smoked approximately 0.5 milligrams (probably a little less than that) the other day, in a joint with inert herbs, over a period of two hours. At such a low dose (relatively to the few other reported doses) I'm guessing anything I felt was placebo or nocebo. At various points I had the odd twinge in head and arm that made me stop smoking the joint for a little while; but I suspect that was overcautious response to normal aches and pains. :) However, when I stood up and went for a walk outside at the end of this couple of hours of very slowly smoking this tiny quantity of AM-694, I felt remarkably mellow of mind and body. As I said, probably placebo; can't tell until (and unless; I'm not massively keen to continue experimenting with this) I try a higher dose and recognize a stronger form of the same feeling.
 
Cheers, that's very helpful. Do you find stomach contents has an effect on time-to-peak with smoked cannabinoids? I've never noticed that, but then I haven't really noticed it not having an effect either; I just don't know either way.
Stomach contents CERTAINLY effect the time to peak quite significantly. I notice it everytime I eat a good amount of food. Takes about 8-10 minutes instead of the usual 5.
 
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