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(AM-2201 Unknown dosage) - First Time - Report

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EDIT: Ok. So I really want people who are regular or everyday cannabis users and read reports on here about OD's from this to forget them. I have been Smoking Hash, Weed and have a High Tolerance. I was worried at first to be honest about the fact my scale is only 0.00 so I kinda had to eyeball and although its not accurate like someone else said who will weigh a MG!? I'm sorry but to all those who have no scale in the sake of harm reduction this is what I DID and dont ENCOURAGE IT but if its last resort and you're someone like me ITS NOT going to be unsafe unless you dont read this carefully.

Ok say your AM2201 came in a Baggie a SMALLER baggie...Say its a gram, OK. Take PAPER CLIP and make it straight on one end. I can eyeball a mg perfect but it takes experience. OK so now you got your baggie opened and your paper clip, I recommend a glass container or a plastic container to do this but just DIP THE PAPER CLIP TIP OF THE PART YOU BENT OFF in the bag make sure theres a definite residue that goes no more than like a 1cm up the clip. Take the clip and if your foiling it you can light flick the paper clip in a container or do smaller little dips and use the residue stuck on the clip. You need like 3 specks thats look no bigger than *** those s asterisks. OK Trip Report.

I hated this stuff but I now think I was just being a bit stupid with it and overreacted and was in a general bad mood.

If someone knows if Benzos Affect this drug in any way please report in this topic.

1. 2 specks on foil I let my buddy do the honors he hits it not a whole lot of smoke instantly inhaled and blown out. He feels it good already. THIS IS WHY RESIDUE from the side of the bag and a paper clip is nice. Not SAFE but SAFER than a fucking knife scoop.

2. I hit it next. Note: we both took 2 hits.

15 minutes passes and my friend and I are good. We didnt even blow out smoke and if u do u got to much. LITTLE HITS people.

It feels like a STRONG HASH buzz. Colors ARE enhanced and its VERY noticable after the first buzz gets to you.

There were some after affects such as dry mouth, and dizziness, but overall if i couldn't get herb, I would smoke this. It seems to show no real hazards unless you think your mr hot shot and try to impress some friends which you will regret. It can get a little psychotic I did notice. I couldnt QUITE understand the simplest thing and was getting annoyed afterwards for no reason thats my ONLY complaint.

A lot funner than say jwh 250 and more relaxing but I dunno which is worse as its all chemicals. If I had to rate this on a 10 scale I would give it a 7/10 I would give it a 10 but I keep reading everyone say its toxic so that is automatically a consideration especially after my effects. Drink lots of water and be hydrated when you even play with this. It feels like a indica hash to me, with slight sativa and shroom visions if that makes sense.

AGAIN TRY AND USE A SCALE THAT WEIGHS MGS AS THIS IS ACTIVE AT .5mgs and tbh you dont wanna go toooo much higher.....It seemed pointless as this was very sedating. Just know that it will kick your ass in a bad way if you act stupid with this stuff and scoop it onto whatever u smoke.
 
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Update- This seems VERY MEDICINAL but there is that possible dirty side. Colors are enhanced and there is a bit of an energetic stoned euphoria present almost comforting and complete bliss. I smoke about this much on a piece of dirty foil * I cannot say MGS because I guess I was being dumb and eyeballed but I always make sure I can barely See it on the foil or have to look close so I know its at least responsible eye balling if thats proper to call it after weighing and doing it for so long (just powders in general).....It does have a little chest affect. I guess if you don't get high often stay the fuck away aite? No seriously. If you are a non smoker this may get you way more spaced out than a normal sativa would with a indica feel. The psychedelic side is very noticeable. You do kind of feel like a kid but if you keep the dose at bare minimum it is very relaxing and fun. I would like to see reports from other smokers. This is the first time I've smoked it without my medication management involved and before I toked any herb. Very Nice.
 
I haven't heard much on this, so thanks for sharing your report (and adding in the details - they were much more informative than the original)! I'm not much of a smoker though; only tried green a couple of times, so this doesn't seem like the thing for me, so thanks for the warning on that!
 
I met someone in a park near my house, he told me about a friend of his, his friend has been a lifelong daily pot smoker, once or twice a week drinker and parties once a week with things like cocaine and RCs. The guy also takes Hydrocodone whenever he can get it maybe 30mg, twice a week. This time however the guy used some AM2201 in a manner that was inconsistent with its labeling and this is his story;


DETAILS:
Body weight & gender - Male, 5'10", 180lbs
Dose taken - 1mg allergy - 2mg - 2-3mg
Route of administration - Vape - vape - smoked on top of pot
Setting: in what environment it was taken. - The comfort and safety of his home.
Duration of main effects - 45 minutes
Main effects - Strong rush for 10 minutes followed by 30-45 minutes of marijuana like high
Side effects - None
After effects - None
Rating of the experience - 7 out of 10
Addictive qualities / abuse potential - Not sure yet about the addictive properties. Potential for OD is great.
Any other valuable information - When you have gotten the smallest dose you can get, cut it in half!

EXPERIENCE
The guy was very happy to get home from work and see that his order of AM2201 had arrived. He very carefully transferred the AM2201 to a glass vial and examined it. It was snow white and when he shined a flashlight on it it sparkled a little and looked a bit crystalline in nature. The guy was concerned about how to handle the product efficiently so he actually whittled a toothpick into a tiny little spoon that he could reach into the vial with and scoop out about a mg at a time. He put one mg into a glass pipe and heated it with a lighter for an allergy test. Very quickly the powder melted into a tiny pool of clear liquid, after a short while the clear liquid turned into a small brown stain on the glass. The guy noticed that his tongue was numb like he had put some cocaine on it or something. After about 2 minutes the guy started to feel a tiny bit of a buzz even off that little bit of AM2201. After about 15 minutes the slight buzz feeling faded away and he was ready for a real try.
The guy scooped out 2mg and vaped it in the pipe.
0:00 - Vaped 2mg
0:03 - The guy feels a bit of numbness in his mouth. Vision is getting a bit weird, light sensitivity and the slightest glimpse of the light bulb (25watt) leaves that "shadow" in his vision, like he looked at something really bright. Not unpleasant, just mentioning it.
0:05 - He said it was getting a bit difficult to concentrate on anything, such as typing an experience report. Lol. The mind is easily distracted at this point.
0:10 - No doubt about it he said, he has a high, very similar to the high from pot......
0:14 - Damn, sorry got distracted. Where was I??? Oh yeah The high was similar to pot but you get distracted easily. He thought that was pretty funny because he didn't feel very high but the distractions come easy and his fingers are fumbling around very clumsily. He said even though he hadn't gotten up and walked around yet he understands the reviews he read that spoke of unexplained clumsiness.
0:20 - Made a trip to the bathroom, didn't really notice any clumsiness and he checked his eyes to see if they were bloodshot, they were not.
0:30 - He said he was retuning to baseline after about a half hour. Not completely there but coming down. No 'crash' or urge to re-dose.
0:35 - Although there is no urge to re-dose, He is going to anyway, he said he had some time restraints and wanted to do more research before he had to go to bed.

He decided to take a couple of minutes and get a bite to eat. He did not think it was munchies, just that it's been 9 hours since his last meal.

Alright, about 15 minutes and 1 TV dinner later he was back to baseline. Now he had a dilemma, continue to vape, which was nice, or try smoking on top of a bowl of weed, which he really wanted to try. He decided to try the bowl of weed technique since there was plenty of product to research with on another day.

0:00 - 2-3mg on a bit of weed. 2 puffs taken.
0:01 - Instantly feel the effects. Super strong. That Dude is F'd up. WOW!!!!
0:05 - That Dude got enough experience parting to know that he is f'd up, but he can kick back and enjoy it. Someone who hasn't been partying for about 20 years might be really FREAKING out right now. Man this is awesome and incredibly strong. He said it had that 'Whoosh, Whoosh, Whoosh' feeling, like sniffing that stuff called 'Rush' in the old days, if anyone knows what he's talking about.
0:10 - Initial rush is mellowing out now, riding a real sweet wave over here. There's a bit of euphoria mixed in with the rush, he thought maybe 'Bliss' was a more accurate adjective than euphoric. Pretty much incapacitated for the first 10 minutes, kicking back and saying 'AHHHHH'. He wasn't looking in a mirror right now but his eyelids feel like sandpaper. Eyes are very bloodshot.
0:15 - The guy really had a good time explaining his experience, to 'someone' he was emailing when he had it. He said it was easy to get 'into' typing the email but it was difficult to concentrate and not go into so much depth that the description qualified as babbling. While typing he notices he can feel his blood pressure increasing. He went and got his blood pressure monitor, (He has no history of high blood pressure or any other medical issues, he has the monitor to be safe while partying) his systolic was 169 over a diastolic of 111, with a pulse of 98. All quite high! (All quite HIGH, lol). Normal for him is 142 over 81 with a pulse in the low 70s.
0:20 - He feels good and can tell blood pressure is dropping. The hardcore rush is gone, now it is just a nice high a lot like weed but more of a body high. Skin feels tingly and feels nice when you rub your hand over it. Very nice but he could see where an OD could get psychedelic, in a bad way. Vision was crisp everything seems to 'stand out' from its background. Nice mellow feel to it after the rush is over, he said. Second blood pressure reading was 151 over 93, pulse at 93, getting better.
0:30 - The guy was just kicking back enjoying himself, nice body high, more like eating special brownies than smoking weed. A distinct high, very enjoyable. He can't really concentrate on a TV show so he puts some music on and finds himself swaying to and fro to the music, snapping fingers and wishing there was someone here to share the good time with.
0:45 - Still feeling nice and really enjoying the music. Blood pressure is at 143 over 86, pulse is 84, very good. The BP spike was alarming but thankfully brief. He thinks he did more than was necessary for one dose, not OD but large. Cut that amount in half and the initial rush may be avoided and perhaps the BP spike as well.
1:00 - Approaching baseline.

SUMMARY
Extremely powerful. Use with caution. Absolutely not for a novice! Except for the blood pressure spike it was an awesome time and well worth doing again and sharing with friends. The onset was intense but can no doubt be controlled by dosage and means of ingestion. It seems like the type of thing you might want to do about 20 minutes before going out but he wouldn't want to be out in public for the first few minutes. The mellow body high after wards would lend itself well to any task, from folding laundry to parting at the club, it would make anything a bit more enjoyable. Unfortunately you would have to find 15 minutes of privacy every hour or so to re-dose if you wanted to be out and about partying.
At least that was the result of his first interaction with the product. More research with dosage and method of ingestion is necessary. He said he had also purchased a universal solvent and planned on trying to use the product transdermally. If I meet that guy at the park again I will remember to ask him how that worked out for his friend, so I can let you know.
Thanks for reading this experience report.
MikeekiM
 
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Hi folks, I met that guy in the park again, he told me his friend got that universal solvent and tried AM2201 transdermally. This is what happened;

~100mg dissolved in 100 drops of solvent
0:00 - 1 drop placed on arm. It starts to sting a bit on contact.
0:02 - Still stings, had to scratch, will no doubt try a less sensitive area than the crotch of the elbow for next application.
0:10 - Stinging / itching sensation is fading.
0:20 - Might be feeling something, not strong enough to tell if it's just anticipation or not.
0:40 - Still nothing but a light placebo or the tinges of a high from too small a dose.
0:50 - Still nothing but decided to do a blood pressure reading, Systolic 142, Diastolic 87, Pulse 64. All normal.

Decided to re-dose
0:00 - 2 drops on forearm.
0;01 - Slight stinging sensation, much less annoying than last application.
0:15 - Nothing. The guys scale only goes down to a 10th of a gram and he was having trouble getting actual measurements, he is starting to wonder if he underestimated the amount of product that was dissolved.
0:20 - Starting to feel something, light headed might be a good description. Vision is getting crisp, colors are starting to stand out. Mild 'taste' in the back of the mouth.
0:40 - All feeling of impending high have dissipated.
He decided to take a break and go grocery shopping to allow all traces to fade away, then try again.

Re-dose
0:00 - Apply 4 drops on forearm.
0:01 - Mild stinging / itch on application area.
0:15 - Nothing
0:30 - Nothing
0;37 - Starting to feel something. Same as before, light headed and colors are starting to stand out. Even if he had underestimated the amount of product dissolved in solvent, 4 drops is at least 3mg, so some effects should be noticeable.
1:00 - Still feel very, very mild effects. Fading fast and nothing worth writing home about anyway.
He decided to stop research for the day in-case a tolerance is being built. He chugged down a cup of Kratom, Maeng Da tea and walked to a friends house to hang out and have fun. He will try again tomorrow.

Several days later;
0:00 - Apply 6 drops to the forearm. Guess what, it stings a little.
0:15 - Nothing
0:30 - Nothing
0;37 - Starting to feel something. Same as before, light headed and colors are starting to stand out.
1:00 - Still feel very mild effects. Fading fast again.

He's not sure if he's doing something wrong or what but this method of ingestion is really not working out well for him. He is using 99.9% pure DMSO as the solvent and from smoking the product he knows it is genuine, if anyone has some input, he said he would appreciate hearing it. He said that he could use any advice you have to offer with regards to using DMSO in general but it was a moot point with AM2201 because after doing some research with smoking the product he decided to finish what he has on hand and discontinue research. The main reason cited was an alarming spike in blood pressure and the fact that in order to obtaine a worthwhile buzz he had to smoke enough to cause an uncomfortably strong, almost 'tripping' onset, that lasted about 15 - 20 minutes. He did point out that that was just his preference, if someone was into a brief but nearly debiltating 'trip' followed by a nice 'pot like' buzz, they may like the product. Beware of the blood pressure spike and he would recommend avoiding the product if you have ANY blood pressure or cardio health issues.
Thanks for reading this review.
MikeekiM
 
I would suggest disoslving it it acetone, and spraying it on damania for use as a smoking blend. I would also suggest mixing it with some AM-694 for a more balanced high.
 
FYI OP, if you're still around... you canNOT eyeball a milligram "very accurately" from a full gram, there's no way man. Eyeballing is inaccurate because powders clump together in different configurations and I have done personal experiments to this effect, where I tried eyeballing equivalent amounts and then weighing them, and the amount of variance in identical-looking piles was at times shocking. I've eyeballed things like MXE, where dose variation is not a big deal, but to suggest anyone eyeball something as potent as this is irresponsible.
 
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