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RCs AM-2201 solution

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i'm getting a large amount of am-2201 soon. anyway, it's soluble in propylene glykol, and since my scale doesn't do 0.00g i can't measure it properly. so i thought i might manufacture a solution from it, soak tabacco in it, let it dry and smoke it. would this work?
 
dissolve in acetone, put in spray bottle (make sure acetone doesn't dissolve plastic first)and spray leaves (preferably ones safer than tobacco but it's ur call) as evenly as possible.

make sure you start with a known amount of am-2201 and make sure you have your ratios right with the leaves. There are guides on how to do this all over the place that explain in detail.

i wouldn't use propylene glycol just because i'm not sure how well or quick it would evaporate, acetone is ideal in this scenario.
 
yeah i'll weigh it after getting it. acetone sounds like the way to go. but wouldn't it be toxic when smoked? i guess i'll go with tobacco, since i don't have any leaves i could use.
 
Acetone evaporates rather rapidly. Propylene glycol does not.

Even if you tried to smoke acetone it would catch fire.

Generally people use acetone for applying the compound to herbs, or propylene glycol for making an E-cigarette solution.

Herbs that people use for base material are usually things like:
catnip
damiana
mullein
dagga
raspberry leaf

et cetera. Nothing too strongly flavoured and nothing too expensive.

Tobacco leaves are probably too psychoactive and harsh to yield a good smoking mix.
 
yeah i'll weigh it after getting it. acetone sounds like the way to go. but wouldn't it be toxic when smoked? i guess i'll go with tobacco, since i don't have any leaves i could use.

The acetone evaporates very quickly so there should be none left when you're smoking it. Just make sure you leave the blend in a well ventilated area for 24 hours+.

Tobacco works fine for blends, if you're a smoker then it's no harsher than you're used to anyway.
 
yeah i smoke a lot, and since i usually score hash i mix that with tobacco anyway. thanks for the input btw, now i just gotta buy a liter of 100% acetone. how much could i dissolve in that?
 
yeah i smoke a lot, and since i usually score hash i mix that with tobacco anyway. thanks for the input btw, now i just gotta buy a liter of 100% acetone. how much could i dissolve in that?

I'm not sure what the exact solubility is but 500mg dissolves into roughly 25ml quite easily :)
 
I'm not sure what the exact solubility is but 500mg dissolves into roughly 25ml quite easily :)

okay cool. i already ordered a liter of 100% acetone so that should be no problem. say i had ten grams of the stuff then half a liter should dissolve all of it right?
also a pack of rolling tobacco usually has 30 grams in it. how much of the am-2201 would i apply to that amount?
 
Solubility of AM-2201 should easily be 50-100mg/ml or more. You won't need very much.

A "dose" of AM-2201 is 0.5mg to 2mg for most people, but personal tatse and tolerance can make that figure vary a bit. AM-2201 is a very potent CB1 full agonist so I would start low (under 1mg per smoke) if you havent done similar synthetics before.

Just adjust the concentration to average ~1mg for every "serving" of tobacco you normally smoke. If you like you can always make two batches, one with less and one with more AM-2201 on them respectively.
 
thanks! yeah i smoked a bunch of 'spice' (a blend of differen JWH synthetics) so i don't know how am-2201 compares to it. i think i might dissolve it all in a bit more than 500ml, so it's easier to spray onto the tobacco. i mean if i use 1l then the concentration would be 10mg per ml which would be okay, because i can use an insulin syringe to measure out a small dose, put it into a nasal spray thingy with saline and spray the tobacco with it. might take longer to dry, but i researched this drug a bit, and apparently smoking too much of it is really unpleasant. it didn't even occur to me to eyeball dosages, one time eyeballing phenazepam brought me enough trouble... i'll definitely dissolve it in acetone, but i think a 10mg per ml concentration is high enough.
 
okay cool. i already ordered a liter of 100% acetone so that should be no problem. say i had ten grams of the stuff then half a liter should dissolve all of it right?
also a pack of rolling tobacco usually has 30 grams in it. how much of the am-2201 would i apply to that amount?

I personally use 20mg per gram of blend (so 30 grams of tobacco would use 600mg of AM-2201), but it's all personal preference. As sekio said try making multiple batches. I tried 13.3mg/g,17.5, 20 and 25 and then decided 20 worked out the best for the amount I wanted to smoke. Weak enough to be eyeballed easily but strong enough so I didn't have to smoke a ton to get high, but it depends what you're looking for I've seen blends that are half that strength and blends that are double.

Also I don't spray it, I simply mix the AM-2201 with a decent amount of acetone (25g of tobacco with 500mg of AM-2201), put it into a jar with the tobacco and then shake it well for a couple of minutes. It's easier than spraying it and as far as I can tell it should give a more even coating. You're choice though, the vast majority of TEK's I've read recommend spraying and I'm sure there's a reason for it :)
 
yeah your method sounds better. i just read a few different how-to's only and they all said to spray it, but your method sounds like less of an hassle. thanks for all the feedback guys. now i have a decent idea how to handle the stuff.

edit: as an amusing sidenote, after googling the stuff i read on another forum about a guy who wanted to IV the stuff. now i've been known to shoot some pretty unsafe shit, but ever since my abscess i've finally shelled over the cash for some microns, sterile saline and benzyl alcohol. i think i needed that. taught me an important lesson about safe IV practices.
 
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