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AM-2201 (1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole

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It means, if you're going to use a drug anyway, Bluelight will give you information so you can use that drug with a minimal amount of harm to yourself, or to others.

For example:

You're taking a risk by using a drug about very little is known.

You can reduce the amount of potential harm, by measuring the doses of the drug.

Posters are encouraging you to do that.

You don't seem to understand the risk you're taking, by using a screwdriver as a way of measuring doses.

You're not a medical anomaly, either. But no one can even speculate on why the drug is affecting you in the way it is, without knowing accurately, how much you're taking. (As opposed to how much you have taken.)
 
Thanks for clearing that up. Ya'll wanna be some kinda Mother-figure to drug users, that's cool. I'm 55 and been self mediating since a (no dick swinging, just a fact) young teen, so I don't need a lotta help. But I can see where a lotta the kiddos out there might need your tutelage - kudos to you!

Ya'll crack me up with your measuring fanaticism. Imma justa curioso... do you measure out every bit of weed when you twist one? Riiiiiiiiiight. I'm starting to think most of the people have no idea what getting high feels like.

During the course of typing this, I took 4 hits, each hit about the mass of 20 or 30 grains of salt. But if I'm understanding correctly, you have no concept or idea of how much that is. Riiiiiiiiiight. I need to "measure." Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!! I'll git right on that, Boss! You wanna know how much I smoke?

I smoke as much as it takes to satisfy me. Usually, it's about the above amount.

All I can guess is I'm smoking crap AM and ya'll's stuff must be a lot better? And my bud who DOES get off must just be another exception, I guess?

Lawdy!
 
Ya'll crack me up with your measuring fanaticism. Imma justa curioso... do you measure out every bit of weed when you twist one? Riiiiiiiiiight. I'm starting to think most of the people have no idea what getting high feels like.

We're not talking about smoking weed here. You're taking a drug that is active, at very low doses. It may be harmful at very low doses.

Nobody knows if it has the safety profile of marijuana - but why risk it? Why not treat it as cautiously as possible?

Very little is known about this drug.

What dose will kill you? Nobody knows.

What dose will cause you to lose consciousness? Nobody knows.

What dose will cause irreparable physical harm? Nobody knows.

What drugs interact with this one, to potentiate it, or to cause physical damage? Nobody knows.

There are a myriad of ways you can hurt yourself taking these drugs. In this case, we don't know what most of those ways are.

So far as I can tell, most of what people DO know about this drug, comes from a patent, and speculation based on anecdotal reports.
There may be one or two studies - and even they might cite anecdotal reports.

You could easily, be the first person to kill yourself taking this drug, by vastly exceeding the amounts that have been anecdotally reported as high doses.

Since you don't know your dose, you cannot compare how much you're ingesting to others.

That's the risk you run when you take a drug nobody knows anything about. Without knowing the amount you're taking, that's an even higher risk.

During the course of typing this, I took 4 hits, each hit about the mass of 20 or 30 grains of salt. But if I'm understanding correctly, you have no concept or idea of how much that is. Riiiiiiiiiight. I need to "measure." Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!! I'll git right on that, Boss!

20 or 30 grains of salt?

How are the grains arranged? What's the area the grains occupy? Is it a pile? Is it spread out? What sort of salt? The grain size of salt crystals can vary, just as your interpretation of '20 or 30 grains of salt' is going to differ from mine. It is not a unit of measurement.

A powder's appearance does not directly correlate to it's mass.

If you've spread the salt over 1mm^2 area, with no grains piled on each other, and I spread the same salt (presuming it is the same) over 2mm^2 area, and use that area to measure my drug powder - that 1mm difference could be 5mg difference, it could be 100mg.

You only know how much you're taking, if you measure the dose.

The amount between 'a great time' and 'seizures and coma' or even between 'a great time' and ' a shitty time', is something, for the sake of your own health and wellbeing, you'll want to know.

I cannot be any clearer. If you've detected or taken some personal affront to my posts or others, then I am sorry. What people are trying to do is convey the importance of knowing how much you're taking. Knowing accurately - knowing the mass.

I truly hope you can see why this is important. Because you're putting your life and health in greater danger than it needs to be. It takes 50 bucks to change that - you can probably get a scale to you within a week.

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All I can guess is I'm smoking crap AM and ya'll's stuff must be a lot better? And my bud who DOES get off must just be another exception, I guess?

Nobody can tell you until you know how much you're taking. Because not much is known about the drug, and because we don't know how much you're using, there could be a thousand reasons why you feel a greater tolerance to its effects than your friend.

People will be willing to offer their opinions on that matter, when you can explain how much you're taking.

Trichrome said:
Ya'll wanna be some kinda Mother-figure to drug users, that's cool. I'm 55 and been self mediating since a (no dick swinging, just a fact) young teen, so I don't need a lotta help. But I can see where a lotta the kiddos out there might need your tutelage - kudos to you!

As for your comments on Bluelight users as mother figures: people here trying to reduce the harms and hazards associated with drug use.

Bluelight users are from an array of backgrounds, but what we have in common is the desire to make drug-use as safe an activity as possible.

Whether you realise it or not, you're acting as riskily as any teenager.

I can only urge you to click the link I gave, or that others have given, and buy a scale.

Or dissolve a known amount (that is, the amount you ordered) in a known amount of liquid, and administer the doses that way.

I'm unfamiliar with the solubility of this compound, but if you search Google you'll be able to find what this drug dissolves in.
 
I'll trade with you in a second, mate. And what happens I measure our whatever and then I don't feel it?
 
I'll trade with you in a second, mate. And what happens I measure our whatever and then I don't feel it?
Measure a bigger dose? I don't measure every dose, either, but for a new chemical, or even a new batch it is absolutely essential. I think what your missing is that for every person who posts here there are a hundred who just read, and if someone new to cannabinoids tries to eyeball because they read that you do the results will be disasterous.
 
Ya'll crack me up with your measuring fanaticism. Imma justa curioso... do you measure out every bit of weed when you twist one? Riiiiiiiiiight. I'm starting to think most of the people have no idea what getting high feels like.

Cannabis has a history of thousands of years of use and god knows how many clinical trials that have shown that THC has an unbeliveably low toxicity, such that the only way cannabis can kill you is if a large bale was dropped out of an aeroplane and hit you on the head. AM-2201 may act at the same receptors as THC, but it's a vastly different chemical structure; it also has no history of use beyond a few months, so what toxicology profile it has is an unknown. If you want a comparison, try opium (which for the most part is safe and requires a concerted effort to consume a toxic dose and compare it with 3-methylfentanyl. Both act at the same receptors, but 3-methylfentanyl has put quite a few people six foot under with doses less than a milligram
 
Alrighty then, I'm back. After having gone through this last batch (20 grams in 13 days), I've decided to give it up completely and go back to good 'ole marijuana. The AM just doesn't have the same affect on me as it seems to have on a majority of ya'll. I'm sure if I could smoke it WAY LESS, I'd be able to make it last longer cuz I wouldn't be so resistant to it. Alas, It's like me with ice cream and cookies - I just can't control myself if I have access to them! I'll eat all of it! So, my defense for that is to never have it in the house. Likewise, it seems I'm going to have to treat AM the same way - a pity. I can control my pot smoking, but it seems like the AM is just too tasty for me.

So there you have it. Some people can have a resistance to AM, but these folks(me!) are an anomaly. This isn't about bragging, just relaying my experience with heavy AM use. As of this moment, I've experienced no ill effects from my use. I'd love to keep smoking it, but the way I use it, it's just too expensive and probably unsafe to begin with.

Now, lemme roll a joint: I'm sans AM as of 5 minutes ago. Bummer. It'd be nice if/when they figure all of this shit out. It sure was nice NOT COUGHING.
 
Actually, your experience is not that unusual. I just finished a gram of am-2201 in 5 days, I have little doubt with further use my tolerance would rapidly reached your level. This is not unique to 2201, it happens on all the cannabinoids I've tried. Tolerance breaks are the simple answer.
 
what is it with people here?
You don't have to cane the fuck out of drug, drug pig style. It is not big and it certainly isn't clever. Moderate your use and you will avoid a lot of the downsides and risks. Just because you can be stoned all day everyday in a dysfunctional haze doesn't mean you should. people here are wasting a lot of potential by not regularly using doses of high grade sobriety.
If you treat drugs as a means to an end, NOT and end in itself, then they suddenly become much more powerful and useful.

Of course it is entirely up to the user, but certain users in this thread are hardly responsible users and it is foolishness like this which leads to regulation and prohibition, if the user cannot control consumption then the state, for better or worse steps in to control use. More and more BL users are part of the problem not part of the solution.
 
Well, I'm done with the crap and gone back to marijuana. I'm just too resistant to it: it's doesn't make financial sense.

One side affect I'm experiencing are my taste buds - almost non-existent. My appetite is gone, also. I don't know if this is attributable to AM or not. I'll update as my taste returns or I'm diagnosed with cancer orrrrrrr something.
 
Well I'm done with the shit and gone back to marijuana. I'm just too resistant to AM; it doesn't make financial sense, for me.

Side affects seem to be a loss of appetite due to my taste buds not doing the job. I'll keep ya'll updated if the taste returns or I develop cancer orrrrrrrr something.
 
I went through a gram in about a month.

1st off...this stuff is WAY stronger than JWH-18. JWH-18 was potent, and I'd go into extreme dissociative states with fear.....Oh they were awesome too! I love the fear.

This AM-2201 is a whole other ball of wax. Get the dose right, and it feels just like good medicinal cannabis. But smoke more, and I would just pass out for 2 hours and not remember a thing. I wouldn't even remember why I was asleep till I saw the pipe.

BTW, I smoke from a traditional glass DMT pipe (or meth pipe) and most have a purple residue in the stems now that all the 2201 is gone. No other chemicals were smoked from these pipes.

I just took a hit from this purplish residue and it got me high (feels like my cannabis), so it seems heat breaks 2201 down, but doesn't destroy it all at once (obviously).

What could this purple stuff be? I got it from a very well known and reputable vendor...why am I the only one seeing purple?

The material itself was pure, clear 'colored' and finely crystalline. Looked nicer than most other RCs I've obtained in the past.
 
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The reason this guy is blowing through 50gs in a month is because he's just dumping the powder onto mullein in a bowl...

Chase the dragon off of tin foil or make a lightbulb vape for $2 and 10 minutes of work...

I vaporize 20mg of JWH-122\JWH-210 every night, and my tolerance isn't increasing very much past here...and I've been doing this every fucking night since I got out of jail...

I'd love to see you *properly* vaporize your daily half gram dose or whatever it breaks down to and be in a coma for 2 days...
 
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