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RCs alpha-PHP , a-php - Has anyone got any information?
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No. I hope nobody got that idea from my post, that's not what I was trying to convey. I hear from many people that aPHP is pretty damn euphoric and has a nice rush. There are also plenty of people who dislike it. Mephedrone was extremely popular and one of my favorite drugs, yet there were THOUSANDS of people online, and even people I gave samples to in real life who didnt care for it. Everyone's different.
Although everyone agrees PHP has a shorter duration, and you end up taking hit after hit even worse than the other PVs. Not to mention that may a short, faster acting stimulant is closer to what you are looking for! Different strokes for different folks yo. Plus, while some people can still get illegals in their country, MDPV is actually a bit harder to get as far as illegals go.... although if you're dabbling in illegals you probably won't have much trouble finding some MDPV with a bit of digging.
I will be ordering a gram of aPHP in the coming week and look forward to reporting on it.
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Holy fucking shit! I am seriously glad you're still alive, but also seriously worried, and a bit perplexed that you aren't floating through the 23rd dimension yet hearing aliens trying to break into your house and call the cops on you! If I vaped even 50mg in one hit/session I would be a goner without benzos or seroquel. At least tell me you've had sex or masturbated while on such a high dose!?! I can't even imagine the godliness.......
May I ask, since you started abusing aPHP what, if any, long term physical side effects have you noticed on any part or function of your body? Just honestly curious. Be safe mate.
Edit: Realized he was talking about alpha PHP not MDPV.
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As for the aliens he mentioned "paranoid shicozphrenia full blown" so... maybe aliens are breaking into his house.
And I think tamarinds meant aphp and not MDPV, but I could very well be mistaken.
Jesus... just got an order for 25g, I don't think I've done 25g of stimulants TOTAL (ALL OF THEM) EVER!!!!!
(or definitely at least not more than 40-50 for sure!)
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^ Yeah at least not 25g of stims that potent. I've definitely blown through at least 100+ grams of mephedrone at least.
I didn't even realize he was referring to alpha-PHP not MDPV, which should have been obvious haha.
Regardless, that's still extremely epic on some this is sparta type of levels.
Question for anyone:
What's the sexual enhancement/horny-ness factor caused by aPHP. Is it a solid increase? No change? Do you feel like Matthew McConaughey on it? Hard to stay erect or easy as hell?
That's one of the main reasons I even dabble with the PV analogs in the first place, sex on them is some interstellar wormhole shit. Basically every time I have sex or masturbate while on PV, it's like the docking scene from interstellar where he spins the spaceship in circles to lock up with the space station, I feel like god damn Matthew McConaughey everytime. Yep, definitely like that.
I didn't even realize he was referring to alpha-PHP not MDPV, which should have been obvious haha.
Regardless, that's still extremely epic on some this is sparta type of levels.
Question for anyone:
What's the sexual enhancement/horny-ness factor caused by aPHP. Is it a solid increase? No change? Do you feel like Matthew McConaughey on it? Hard to stay erect or easy as hell?
That's one of the main reasons I even dabble with the PV analogs in the first place, sex on them is some interstellar wormhole shit. Basically every time I have sex or masturbate while on PV, it's like the docking scene from interstellar where he spins the spaceship in circles to lock up with the space station, I feel like god damn Matthew McConaughey everytime. Yep, definitely like that.
lolwhatzdrugs
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Matthew McConaughey? I dunno never been him before 
Yes.... it is an increase for sure!
Yes.... it is an increase for sure!
Ive never vaped anything other than weed but made a light bulb for for my a-php experiments. I'm still learning how to do it most efficiently. My question is once it turns into an amber colored liquid, do I keep hitting it or is it done? I've vaping this amber liquid for a second or two and the vapor tastes like shit and kinda hurts my lungs.
For starters i do not suggest getting into vaping but since you're interested.. Do NOT waste your time with a bulb or a meth pipe, it's shit. Chasing on foil is the only way to go with this, takes abit to get the hang of but there are guides around. Chasing is way more addictive than the pipe also imo. Smoking the amber is fine, it's when it gets much darker to black is when you should definitely stop. I am far from an expert on chasing and PVP compounds but i know enough to become a psychotic fiend so i must be doing something right. Good luck, you'll need it.
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^ Yeah, once it gets amber colored it becomes harsh and less effective, probably because its burning/degraded. I also admit that for the PV related compounds foil boats are much more effective. Just make sure to burn off any added lubricants/chemicals that were coated onto the foil during manufacturing before vaping anything off of it. If you don't let it slide and "chase" it, it will just burn and become harsh fast.
Im refering too a-PHP
Yes after 3 years of daily a-PVP and now a-PHP for the last 4 months. Ive definately done some organic brain damage. No doubt. still these symothoms disapear completely within 10 days of ceasing.except for the quickened pace of speech, strange body poses sitting and "extra careful" lifestyle. Id say these PVs have been benefivient. Rather than shooting H and dieing.
Im used to these doses. I do not recommend vaping 80mg off top going too town.
edit: I havr gone through 300g of a-PVP in 30 months nocluding the 85g I flushed
Yes after 3 years of daily a-PVP and now a-PHP for the last 4 months. Ive definately done some organic brain damage. No doubt. still these symothoms disapear completely within 10 days of ceasing.except for the quickened pace of speech, strange body poses sitting and "extra careful" lifestyle. Id say these PVs have been benefivient. Rather than shooting H and dieing.
Im used to these doses. I do not recommend vaping 80mg off top going too town.
edit: I havr gone through 300g of a-PVP in 30 months nocluding the 85g I flushed
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Interesting. I know MDPV has a good physical safety profile (when abused though, not the best mental one ). So I figure a-pvp and a-PHP aren't much more, perhaps less harmful if at all.
While I agree that after a few days of sobriety, food and sleep you are back to 100%, however I have noticed that the 'paranoid' effects still persist a bit, almost as though your brain is still figuring out what reality is.
What is the longest break from them you have taken, and how much back to baseline/normal were you by the end of the break?
Also in your opinion is a-PHP more paranoia-incuding, or less? Does the 'extra careful' behavior appear sooner, or later than PVP?
If you don't mind me asking, having been using PVP and a-PHP for about 3 years now, have you been able to maintain a functional life in society, or has it been negatively affected. Obviously you consider it preventing you from shooting H a good thing, I'm referring to jobs, friends etc. I've found the PVs to be the most self destructive drugs I have ever done, more so than heroin, but thats just my personal view. Either way glad to hear you are alright and I appreciate all the info you've posted.
by the way, 'extra careful lifestyle' cracked me up a bit, mainly because it's too damn true. I think I might start using that when my friends and I talk about this kind of stuff.
). So I figure a-pvp and a-PHP aren't much more, perhaps less harmful if at all. While I agree that after a few days of sobriety, food and sleep you are back to 100%, however I have noticed that the 'paranoid' effects still persist a bit, almost as though your brain is still figuring out what reality is.
What is the longest break from them you have taken, and how much back to baseline/normal were you by the end of the break?
Also in your opinion is a-PHP more paranoia-incuding, or less? Does the 'extra careful' behavior appear sooner, or later than PVP?
If you don't mind me asking, having been using PVP and a-PHP for about 3 years now, have you been able to maintain a functional life in society, or has it been negatively affected. Obviously you consider it preventing you from shooting H a good thing, I'm referring to jobs, friends etc. I've found the PVs to be the most self destructive drugs I have ever done, more so than heroin, but thats just my personal view. Either way glad to hear you are alright and I appreciate all the info you've posted.
by the way, 'extra careful lifestyle' cracked me up a bit, mainly because it's too damn true. I think I might start using that when my friends and I talk about this kind of stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE2xc-rLv6E
It has been the most negative thing you can imagine besides death for me. My Father recently told me hed rather me be addicted to Heroin. Instead of a crazed manic psychopath.
The PV famil was social the first 3 months. Then turned extremely antisocial. Exitement-anxiety-panic-paranoia-psychosis-catatonia. In that order as months progressed and doses upped. Sleep time decreased.
No way was I functional. I was trafficking psychdelics and PV to sustain myself. and just barely. I wouldnt drive 15 miles for $2000 I was that fucked.
a-PHP is just as paranoid producing as a-PVP using the doses I use. vaping 60mg in 30 seconds, then another 50-60 thrn another 50-60. then 100mg all in less than 10 minutes to "get the ball rolling Bobby" will have you layig down breathing deep to catch your breath staring at windows. Wanting too masturbate but your heart cant take it. You cant get hard. You cant stop looking at the window long enough to look at the porn on your phone in your lap. DP GB sextreme. I had no job all 3 years and just in the last 2 months (after getting kicked out of a rehab for ordering a-PHP, binging and then telling management about it) got a job. been working just over 2 months. the longest I ever have. No wonder people arnt abusing PVs as rampent. you cant have a legal day job vaping 24/7. multiple girls I loved have left me, as have friends and family. It aint been easy. I didnt get it until now. Nothing will change until I do.
The extra careful behaivor is my way of life now. I double check candles, ovens, cigarettes in the ashtray. I always buckle up un the car, check for license and inssurance. Use signal and smooth driving. I still speed like a maniac sometimes. In a way its got me OCD about adult things. Rent, responsibility, accountability.
But like tomorrow. 25,000mg. Gotta bulb, tube and lighter layed out ready.
It has been the most negative thing you can imagine besides death for me. My Father recently told me hed rather me be addicted to Heroin. Instead of a crazed manic psychopath.
The PV famil was social the first 3 months. Then turned extremely antisocial. Exitement-anxiety-panic-paranoia-psychosis-catatonia. In that order as months progressed and doses upped. Sleep time decreased.
No way was I functional. I was trafficking psychdelics and PV to sustain myself. and just barely. I wouldnt drive 15 miles for $2000 I was that fucked.
a-PHP is just as paranoid producing as a-PVP using the doses I use. vaping 60mg in 30 seconds, then another 50-60 thrn another 50-60. then 100mg all in less than 10 minutes to "get the ball rolling Bobby" will have you layig down breathing deep to catch your breath staring at windows. Wanting too masturbate but your heart cant take it. You cant get hard. You cant stop looking at the window long enough to look at the porn on your phone in your lap. DP GB sextreme. I had no job all 3 years and just in the last 2 months (after getting kicked out of a rehab for ordering a-PHP, binging and then telling management about it) got a job. been working just over 2 months. the longest I ever have. No wonder people arnt abusing PVs as rampent. you cant have a legal day job vaping 24/7. multiple girls I loved have left me, as have friends and family. It aint been easy. I didnt get it until now. Nothing will change until I do.
The extra careful behaivor is my way of life now. I double check candles, ovens, cigarettes in the ashtray. I always buckle up un the car, check for license and inssurance. Use signal and smooth driving. I still speed like a maniac sometimes. In a way its got me OCD about adult things. Rent, responsibility, accountability.
But like tomorrow. 25,000mg. Gotta bulb, tube and lighter layed out ready.
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I appreciate the thoughtful response man. Sorry to hear about some of the damage it's done to a few aspects of your life. PV's & a few other drugs have definitely fucked A LOT of things up for me in the past, and even as we speak. I won't pretend my drug-created problems are as bad as the ones you described, but by any non-addicts standards, I have fucked up way to seriously and way too much. Luckily somehow I always manage to pull myself back into reality and start functioning.
I promise I won't try and derail this thread after this post. But considering I have an order of aPHP just waiting for payment, I may reconsider.
A few years back I was basically drug free for almost a year and had an awesome job. So as not to bore you I'll try and shorten this. I ended up getting back on 2FMA which made me a bit more anti social and fucked up only a couple relationships with people, other than that it created zero problems. "Decided" that I was better than my job, and quit. Since I am very good with money I had a lot of cash saved up. My plan was to live with a few of my band-mates and get as high as possible for 4 months, then stop, get a nice prestigious job again and be like everyone else. That plan didn't go as planned. Not as much getting high as I wanted, roommates ended up not being the best roommates, and I stayed jobless until the money dissipated.
So I said fine, stopped the drugs again, got a great job and was building back up that bank account. Well about 8 months into my new job, they started understaffing, overworking people, and treating our clients like shit. They would make me blatantly lie to a client (we didn't record calls), not give me time to edit and update their websites, and when the client got mad, management would shame me and throw me under the bus for it. So the only way I ended up being able to deal with coming to work was my Suboxone hook. One thing lead to another, I ordered some MDPV (which at the time I had never tried) and my mind was blown. Called in sick 2 days straight. Was vaping on lunch break etc. But I was still the top employee. Well, something about the MDPV triggered me again, I said fuck this, I told my manager to her face exactly why she was a scumbag human (regardless of MDPV.... she was) and quit (luckily my resume of skillsets means I have no trouble getting employed), I didn't have as much money saved this time though, was burning through MDPV and aPVP, I would visit my family for a get together, or dinner/movie, and be blacking out, micro-sleeping talking about how I know quantum physics because I read wikipedia all night.
Ruined a few more relationships, no close meaningful ones thankfully. That's when my car started having problems. And I decided instead of fixing it, taking it in to get fixed, or dealing with all the other shit in my life.... I would just sit inside, vape, masturbate or find someone who wanted to fuck, vape more and mix it with other drugs mainly benzos.
A month of that and things were in shambles. I had spent more money while unemployed than while working daily. Yadda yadda, more bad things happen that are blatantly my fault for going on a bender.
Since then (that was a while back) I have once again gotten another very nice job, and make sure to take care of my important life shit. However, I still do 2-3 day PVP binges or perhaps a benzo binge here and there. Because of that my money situation isnt as great as it could be, and I am more anti social.
From what I have read on this thread, it seems aPHP has shorter duration and while the rush isnt as good, it seems to be more fiendish and makes you want to redose more. I can take a vape hit of PVP and not need any for a solid 3-4 hours if I focus on something. Perhaps I give myself too much credit for responsibility, and probably shouldn't order this 3 grams.
Random question: If you had the option to get either aPVP or aPHP both at the same price rates (pretend pvp is legal), in 2 sentences, which would you end up buying regularly/all the time, and why?
Best wishes to you....seriously I mean it. It seems like you know that you chose this path, and I am not judging you in the least, just hope it all works out. If you ever need to chat or rant, get support or type, make beats or whatever the fuck, PM me I'm always down to help, hell even just shoot the shit. I promise I'm not an alien-cop building a digital sailboat to come find you via Wireless-N nodes. But seriously never hesitate I mean it.
Okay I'm done derailing this thread I promise ssooooory! :D
I promise I won't try and derail this thread after this post. But considering I have an order of aPHP just waiting for payment, I may reconsider.
A few years back I was basically drug free for almost a year and had an awesome job. So as not to bore you I'll try and shorten this. I ended up getting back on 2FMA which made me a bit more anti social and fucked up only a couple relationships with people, other than that it created zero problems. "Decided" that I was better than my job, and quit. Since I am very good with money I had a lot of cash saved up. My plan was to live with a few of my band-mates and get as high as possible for 4 months, then stop, get a nice prestigious job again and be like everyone else. That plan didn't go as planned. Not as much getting high as I wanted, roommates ended up not being the best roommates, and I stayed jobless until the money dissipated.
So I said fine, stopped the drugs again, got a great job and was building back up that bank account. Well about 8 months into my new job, they started understaffing, overworking people, and treating our clients like shit. They would make me blatantly lie to a client (we didn't record calls), not give me time to edit and update their websites, and when the client got mad, management would shame me and throw me under the bus for it. So the only way I ended up being able to deal with coming to work was my Suboxone hook. One thing lead to another, I ordered some MDPV (which at the time I had never tried) and my mind was blown. Called in sick 2 days straight. Was vaping on lunch break etc. But I was still the top employee. Well, something about the MDPV triggered me again, I said fuck this, I told my manager to her face exactly why she was a scumbag human (regardless of MDPV.... she was) and quit (luckily my resume of skillsets means I have no trouble getting employed), I didn't have as much money saved this time though, was burning through MDPV and aPVP, I would visit my family for a get together, or dinner/movie, and be blacking out, micro-sleeping talking about how I know quantum physics because I read wikipedia all night.
Ruined a few more relationships, no close meaningful ones thankfully. That's when my car started having problems. And I decided instead of fixing it, taking it in to get fixed, or dealing with all the other shit in my life.... I would just sit inside, vape, masturbate or find someone who wanted to fuck, vape more and mix it with other drugs mainly benzos.
A month of that and things were in shambles. I had spent more money while unemployed than while working daily. Yadda yadda, more bad things happen that are blatantly my fault for going on a bender.
Since then (that was a while back) I have once again gotten another very nice job, and make sure to take care of my important life shit. However, I still do 2-3 day PVP binges or perhaps a benzo binge here and there. Because of that my money situation isnt as great as it could be, and I am more anti social.
From what I have read on this thread, it seems aPHP has shorter duration and while the rush isnt as good, it seems to be more fiendish and makes you want to redose more. I can take a vape hit of PVP and not need any for a solid 3-4 hours if I focus on something. Perhaps I give myself too much credit for responsibility, and probably shouldn't order this 3 grams.
Random question: If you had the option to get either aPVP or aPHP both at the same price rates (pretend pvp is legal), in 2 sentences, which would you end up buying regularly/all the time, and why?
Best wishes to you....seriously I mean it. It seems like you know that you chose this path, and I am not judging you in the least, just hope it all works out. If you ever need to chat or rant, get support or type, make beats or whatever the fuck, PM me I'm always down to help, hell even just shoot the shit. I promise I'm not an alien-cop building a digital sailboat to come find you via Wireless-N nodes. But seriously never hesitate I mean it.
Okay I'm done derailing this thread I promise ssooooory! :D
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Derailing? This kind of shit needs to be said so people can know "if you think your 1g 5 day bender was crappy.... shit gets worse."
Fortunately I could give a fuck about it when I'm not already spun
Will definitely think twice before ordering another gram, though I don't really feel the need to anyway.
Fortunately I could give a fuck about it when I'm not already spun
Will definitely think twice before ordering another gram, though I don't really feel the need to anyway.
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I know 
and thanks. But since I have yet to try php, I don't wanna clutter up this info thread with my life problems. Tamarinds is more relevant because he has been using php heavily recently.
The Dark Side forums are also a good resource. And while suicide prevention is definitely #1 priority and extremely important, I prefer the non-kill myself topics.
I'm just going to leave this here:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ge-seriously?p=8744707&viewfull=1#post8744707
and thanks. But since I have yet to try php, I don't wanna clutter up this info thread with my life problems. Tamarinds is more relevant because he has been using php heavily recently. The Dark Side forums are also a good resource. And while suicide prevention is definitely #1 priority and extremely important, I prefer the non-kill myself topics.
I'm just going to leave this here:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ge-seriously?p=8744707&viewfull=1#post8744707
lolwhatzdrugs
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Hahahaha
For sure, a classic in the fucking crazy fucked up place that pyrovalerone derivatives can take you to.
Luckily I have never experienced anything more than moderate paranoia (and no delusions) which resolved immediately upon cessation, but I have also never had a serious stimulant problem, just a few short benders. That post right there is definitely a YMMV (from mine) sorta thing as shit can definitely go off the fucking walls!
For sure, a classic in the fucking crazy fucked up place that pyrovalerone derivatives can take you to.
Luckily I have never experienced anything more than moderate paranoia (and no delusions) which resolved immediately upon cessation, but I have also never had a serious stimulant problem, just a few short benders. That post right there is definitely a YMMV (from mine) sorta thing as shit can definitely go off the fucking walls!
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Keep it that way! You sound a bit like a mature, responsible recreational drug user good sir. Hats off to you. %)
I was able to stay responsible the past week-ish (meaning with copious drugs in my possession I refrained from disappearing from reality) and am still very interested in a-PHP, I'm gonna have some come my way next wek. Especially because I purchased 5 grams (at a very good price though) of MD-PHP, and it was dissapointing. Barely stimulating, barely to not at all euphoric, and extremely paranoia inducing. Increased sex drive a tiny bit, but when you take one dose after 24 hours of no use (and good sleep/eating habits), and within 3 minutes start hearing invisible people breaking into your house you gotta contemplate flushing it.
It was definitely very impure, and while it did taste/smell like all the other PV related compounds, who knows what it was or had in it. A recrystallization (still not really 'crystal' though) & mild purification with my buddy who's an actual chemist made it a tad more potent but no change in effect.
But aPHP seems to be in a whole different ballpark. I can't wait to report in! And I'm going to do a bit more research on making sure I don't end up sitting in front of a plate or foil for 24 hours, that's not the goal here.
I was able to stay responsible the past week-ish (meaning with copious drugs in my possession I refrained from disappearing from reality) and am still very interested in a-PHP, I'm gonna have some come my way next wek. Especially because I purchased 5 grams (at a very good price though) of MD-PHP, and it was dissapointing. Barely stimulating, barely to not at all euphoric, and extremely paranoia inducing. Increased sex drive a tiny bit, but when you take one dose after 24 hours of no use (and good sleep/eating habits), and within 3 minutes start hearing invisible people breaking into your house you gotta contemplate flushing it.
It was definitely very impure, and while it did taste/smell like all the other PV related compounds, who knows what it was or had in it. A recrystallization (still not really 'crystal' though) & mild purification with my buddy who's an actual chemist made it a tad more potent but no change in effect.
But aPHP seems to be in a whole different ballpark. I can't wait to report in! And I'm going to do a bit more research on making sure I don't end up sitting in front of a plate or foil for 24 hours, that's not the goal here.
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not the highest quality but biggest Ive seen. Good note to end on. c
couldnt even make it 24 hours. flushed 20g. vaped 2 wasted 2 on foil preemptively Fed just in case flushing.
1 G in a stash spot so good the Fedz will have earned it if they find it.
Not like they comin LOL.
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blood pressure got up to 157/113 last night. 95 bpm.
was relaxed and stretching. my roomate hit 30 over 2 hours out of an ecig and stressed himself to 146/87 85bpm.
then he expressed detaiked narratives of his life. very reflective and meaningful.
I was uncontrollably lude and rude. Walking off and ripping some foil; still genuinely listening, door to the bath room closed of course. at one point I heard hin start crying, I flushed to foil (biggest hit yet to be taken) and visually confirmed I was listening.
after he went to sleep i kept chugging. gotta be 50-75mg every foil hit. getting really "sex feeling" literally feeling like Im having sex. And then plugging 60mg average. masturbation after that duh. (if you are this kind of person I recommened doing this (YMMV☆) I dont remomend anyone off top plugging 80mg after a 60 hit.
Oh well. I gave it a true show and really tryed. But in the end ended up flushing. I pictured a girl I DEEPLY LOVE. and how Id be letting her down so bad, shes in recovery for H and I want to show her that there is a way out. If I can make it out anyone can LOL. jonesin for that RJ Reynolds now. chuggin along but nah done with that. bet I resist it this time. got that heat FIRED UP.
sometimes I wonder if IV PV users have it easier. No foil crinkling, no lighter flicks and FLASHES, no tube, no black marks, less time to be spotted. Way more stealth. not bout that needle though.
bout that 'briety
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-didnt take a hit-
plugged over 150 feeling relaxed and ready for bed lol
not the highest quality but biggest Ive seen. Good note to end on. c
couldnt even make it 24 hours. flushed 20g. vaped 2 wasted 2 on foil preemptively Fed just in case flushing.
1 G in a stash spot so good the Fedz will have earned it if they find it.
Not like they comin LOL.
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blood pressure got up to 157/113 last night. 95 bpm.
was relaxed and stretching. my roomate hit 30 over 2 hours out of an ecig and stressed himself to 146/87 85bpm.
then he expressed detaiked narratives of his life. very reflective and meaningful.
I was uncontrollably lude and rude. Walking off and ripping some foil; still genuinely listening, door to the bath room closed of course. at one point I heard hin start crying, I flushed to foil (biggest hit yet to be taken) and visually confirmed I was listening.
after he went to sleep i kept chugging. gotta be 50-75mg every foil hit. getting really "sex feeling" literally feeling like Im having sex. And then plugging 60mg average. masturbation after that duh. (if you are this kind of person I recommened doing this (YMMV☆) I dont remomend anyone off top plugging 80mg after a 60 hit.
Oh well. I gave it a true show and really tryed. But in the end ended up flushing. I pictured a girl I DEEPLY LOVE. and how Id be letting her down so bad, shes in recovery for H and I want to show her that there is a way out. If I can make it out anyone can LOL. jonesin for that RJ Reynolds now. chuggin along but nah done with that. bet I resist it this time. got that heat FIRED UP.
sometimes I wonder if IV PV users have it easier. No foil crinkling, no lighter flicks and FLASHES, no tube, no black marks, less time to be spotted. Way more stealth. not bout that needle though.
bout that 'briety
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-didnt take a hit-
plugged over 150 feeling relaxed and ready for bed lol
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IN MY OPINION. PHP's potential lies with the intravenous route and not because i love poking myself, this more than likely will apply to the Rectum also.
PHP's problem is it's pathetic duration coupled with the smoked route means you're head first in foil all night. The IV route gives stronger longer lasting rushes with more time inbetween hits making it not only safer but more recreational. I'll smoke untill i die (seriously) so this applies to myself. This is only realistic if you take the necessary precautions and are comfortable with the needle.
Do not IV this shit.
PHP's problem is it's pathetic duration coupled with the smoked route means you're head first in foil all night. The IV route gives stronger longer lasting rushes with more time inbetween hits making it not only safer but more recreational. I'll smoke untill i die (seriously) so this applies to myself. This is only realistic if you take the necessary precautions and are comfortable with the needle.
Do not IV this shit.
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With this, and tamarinds most recent post, I think I'll stick to the PVP. I don't do needles, and do not intend to spend the day in front of foil. One foil hit of PVP depending on dose can do me good for 1-3 hours. Then again, if I have copious amounts in my possession, my face is in the foil so long that I end up texting people things that let's just say..... I regret texting.
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
Lol, more like from other stupid experiences I realized fairly quickly I'd either inadvertently end up dead or I must end up far less casual with stuff I did and a good deal more responsible. I could definitely feel how this stuff could carry significant problems. I believe I mentioned this, and I think people who love stimulants never feel this way: I only want more when I'm spun as fuck and it's nearly over, but after two days overwith and with plenty of money to spend and a reliable source I don't really have strong feelings to order it, and a dislike of how withdrawn I become. I always think: I'll be able to get some shit done, but honestly never do a goddamn thing....
Problem is I also take it too far. Stimulants are functional with lower doses and when sleep is gotten EVERY night. Past 48 hours and redosing you can become a horny, dirty freak with little effort to get there or maintain that existence, but I usually give out after a week (with 10 hours of sleep) anyway and say fuck that.
Problem is I also take it too far. Stimulants are functional with lower doses and when sleep is gotten EVERY night. Past 48 hours and redosing you can become a horny, dirty freak with little effort to get there or maintain that existence, but I usually give out after a week (with 10 hours of sleep) anyway and say fuck that.