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Almost ready to be gay.

Actually it's not mind boggling. Western women are not an option for LTR to the great majority of men nowadays. What might turn you on sexually is like a preference, does not mean you are gay.

To be a gay man you need to feel attraction for a man the same way a straight man feels for a woman. I mean that attraction that makes you feel like making her your girlfriend/wife, love... For example, a man might get sexual aroused by jerking another guy, getting jerked, sucked, but the thought of making him his boyfriend or even kissing him in the mouth is gross. Explain this: how can some man be grossed out by the thought of kissing another guy, but are not grossed out by sucking their dick?

I think that we are gonna see a big increase in men marrying ladyboys. I think you get the best of both worlds, specially if you find a ladyboy that is 99% woman like, you can't tell the difference unless she drops her panties and you see a dick. So he has two holes (mouth is mouth, same thing), and the asshole which is basically a tight pussy that never gets loose, and you have a dick as an extra toy for fun. Both of you have dicks so you know how to please each other perfectly.
Thing is though, we were talking serious relationships in either case. So obviously I was romantically attached, not just sexually attracted, to BOTH these individuals. And people still immediately jumped to 'oh it didn't work out with the girl so now you're giving guys a try' and that's just not... how that works. Xd
 
I totally understand where you’re coming from, honestly. I am very bi and I think my ratio is 60/40 (attracted to more women than men) just cuz women are fucking gorgeous, yknow? But omg, they are so much WORK in a relationship. I’m generalizing here, but being in a relationship with a woman, in my experience, is difficult on multiple levels. For one, they tend to have more trauma as a result of their sexuality, at least the ones in my age range (I’m 43, and coming out was SUPER difficult to do in the 90s. So a lot of these women have emotional scars from that.) For another, women are extremely picky! They’ll run away at the first sign of trouble. And don’t even get me started about the difficulties of telling them that you’re bi; they’ll remain convinced that it’s just a phase for you, that you’re just experimenting (at their expense) and that you’ll leave them for a man eventually. 🙄 NOT A PHASE, at least not for me, I am still wholeheartedly attracted to women and I love eating pussy. But I’m with a man now, who I’m intensely attracted to. I still do a double-take when a hottie walks by, tho 😉
 
I've struggled so much with male/female relationships.
My parents have always been super homophobic.

I don't care about my parents anymore.
I'm sick of having relationships with women.

Inches away from embracing my gayness.
Those feelings are so repressed.
I advise you first try sticking something phallic up your hairy ass and checking if you like it. Might turn out, you weren't really gay after all!
 
I totally understand where you’re coming from, honestly. I am very bi and I think my ratio is 60/40 (attracted to more women than men) just cuz women are fucking gorgeous, yknow? But omg, they are so much WORK in a relationship. I’m generalizing here, but being in a relationship with a woman, in my experience, is difficult on multiple levels. For one, they tend to have more trauma as a result of their sexuality, at least the ones in my age range (I’m 43, and coming out was SUPER difficult to do in the 90s. So a lot of these women have emotional scars from that.) For another, women are extremely picky! They’ll run away at the first sign of trouble. And don’t even get me started about the difficulties of telling them that you’re bi; they’ll remain convinced that it’s just a phase for you, that you’re just experimenting (at their expense) and that you’ll leave them for a man eventually. 🙄 NOT A PHASE, at least not for me, I am still wholeheartedly attracted to women and I love eating pussy. But I’m with a man now, who I’m intensely attracted to. I still do a double-take when a hottie walks by, tho 😉
I've actually gotten that reaction either way round. Girls think I'll invariably cheat on them with a guy and vice versa. It doesn't seem to occur to them that IF I was gonna cheat, then the opposite sex to whoever I'm with isn't the single automatic option. I think it stems from a general misunderstand of what bisexuality is. People think just because you have the capacity to be attracted to either sex, that you CONSTANTLY want 'a bit of both' and therefore can't be faithful.
 
It's 7.5inches. Which isn't terribly huge but ain't small either.
7.5 flaccid? That's a good couple inches above average.
there's bigger & better out there.
I don't get why so many gay guys fetishize huge cocks. Bigger doesn't equal better and personally, if somebody points a porn-star type oversized salami at my arse, I'm running the other way.
I prefer sex where I don't require stitches afterwards.
 
I advise you first try sticking something phallic up your hairy ass and checking if you like it. Might turn out, you weren't really gay after all!

Again, this has nothing to do with being gay, it's a stimulation preference. There are a lot of men who even get prostate orgasms. I tried sticking a dildo up my ass to check that out, but it's not as easy as it seems lol, needs a lot of preparation and asshole stretching. I felt the pressure on my prostate but the feeling I have is similar of wanting to pee. I did not get any near having a prostate orgasm, but the regular orgasm was surely way more intense with the stimulation. Being passive definitely isn't my thing though.
 
7.5 flaccid? That's a good couple inches above average.

I don't get why so many gay guys fetishize huge cocks. Bigger doesn't equal better and personally, if somebody points a porn-star type oversized salami at my arse, I'm running the other way.
I prefer sex where I don't require stitches afterwards.
Lol not flaccid. I don't think many people's are that big flaccid, unless they're already like 9-12 inches. lol
And then there's always vasoconstriction, so everyone's dick gets smaller flaccid.

I'm 7.5 inches hard. Some times more depending on how aroused I am & how my blood is flowing that day.

I can understand why people think big huge dongs are hot, but they're not the end all-be all in my opinion.
I don't bottom much anyway but if I did, i don't think I'd want no 10 incher going in there. lol Ouch
 
Lol not flaccid. I don't think many people's are that big flaccid, unless they're already like 9-12 inches. lol
And then there's always vasoconstriction, so everyone's dick gets smaller flaccid.

I'm 7.5 inches hard. Some times more depending on how aroused I am & how my blood is flowing that day.

I can understand why people think big huge dongs are hot, but they're not the end all-be all in my opinion.
I don't bottom much anyway but if I did, i don't think I'd want no 10 incher going in there. lol Ouch
Porn has really skewed our perception of what “normal” is as per dick size! The average dick is 5.16 inches long when erect, 3.61 inches flaccid, and 3.66 inches in girth.

Source: Google
 
Again, this has nothing to do with being gay, it's a stimulation preference. There are a lot of men who even get prostate orgasms. I tried sticking a dildo up my ass to check that out, but it's not as easy as it seems lol, needs a lot of preparation and asshole stretching. I felt the pressure on my prostate but the feeling I have is similar of wanting to pee. I did not get any near having a prostate orgasm, but the regular orgasm was surely way more intense with the stimulation. Being passive definitely isn't my thing though.
I wouldn't call something without physical intimacy a ”complete” relationship, it's ”friendship” and being gay is unnecessary for that... I don't really know much about gay sex but I'd assume there is regular role switching in that, no? Just a thing to consider...
I wondered if I were gay a few years ago too. Now I don't, for a reason.
 
boozeboy said:
I have nothing against homosexuals.

Great opening sentence. Really sets a nice tone for the rest of your post.

I just believe that most men who are homosexual failed to bond with their fathers growing up or they just simply didn't have any masculine role model to look up to.

Why do you believe this?

I had a great relationship with my father.

I also believe that pornography of any category can be unhealthy for the young mind. I even think it can turn the straightest man in the world into a homosexual. Seriously. Sometimes I felt gay after watching too much porn and I could feel the shame & disgust for even thinking about it. I used to find short haired women to be attractive when I was a teenager and I had this weird fetish for older women for a long period of time but I no longer do. I think porn might have been a contributing factor to this. Now women with long hair appear to be more feminine & attractive for me.

Sounds like you're bisexual and you're repressing those inherent feelings of same-sex attraction because of (your words) shame and disgust.

Society pressures us to like a certain type of woman.

They have to shave their legs or they're ugly. Obviously this isn't natural.

Long hair is feminine. Short hair is masculine. Again, not natural.

Women should wear lipstick and eyeliner. Etc.

Pornography can show you that you are attracted to people that society disapproves of. You can explore these feelings, without judgement.

They did a study where they connected electrodes to heterosexual men's dicks and showed them pornographic images. Invariably, all the men showed signs of arousal when exposed to homosexual imagery.

Skin is skin. Men find women's skin beautiful. They find lips beautiful. The thing is: men have skin (and lips) too.

If you can look into a woman's eyes and see the beauty and complexity in the subtle variations of her irises, you can do the same with a man.

Feeling the warmth of a body against yours is the same if it is a man or a woman.

The rest of it is in your head.

Porn isn't making you gay. Those feelings are already there.

Men look at pornography more than women (IMO) because they are afraid of looking at the penis in their hand. The best way to masturbate is to engage with what you're doing. Same goes for sex. I've never understood why people watch pornography while having sex. There is someone in the room with you. Look at them... When men masturbate, they are giving themselves a handjob. There is no way around that. Men spend a lot of time (from a young age) sexually aroused while touching male genitalia.

Before you renounce masturbation, maybe consider that there's nothing wrong with those feelings?

Best way to masturbate is to get in touch with self-love. Turn off the porn. Lose yourself in your own body. Fully enjoy playing with your balls and your nipples. Give your bum a squeeze. Touch yourself as if you are touching someone else. Stand in front of a mirror and put a finger up your ass. Then, finally, cum on your own face. (I would say you'll thank me later, but you'll probably be curled up in a shame ball on the carpet.)
 
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boozeboy said:
Not sure if you're being sarcastic here

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. I try not to do that these days. It's an old habit. No harm intended.

A childhood friend of mine told me this and I thought it made sense at the time and it just stuck with me. I might be totally wrong though.

How does your childhood friend know what happens inside the mind of everyone who isn't heterosexual?

Perhaps blindly presuming that we fully understand the mechanisms behind sexuality is a defence mechanism in itself?

I do apologize if I offended anyone.

You didn't offend me to the extent that you made me doubt myself or feel shame but I can't help but think it's maybe a bit insensitive to post an off-topic comment about how there's something wrong with gay and lesbian people... in a thread about someone who says he has spent four decades being shamed by people about sexuality.

If you'd posted it earlier in my life, it would've triggered me. I'm in a good place now.

Maybe just try to be more sensitive with others in future? They might not be in a good place.

Yeah, that's what I was raised on.

RAISED on. Right. That's what I'm saying. It's not who you are. That's not the real you. That's just layers of bullshit.

The real you is the best you. It is the best way to live.

People are afraid if you peel away the layers there will be nothing left (or you won't like what you find). This is, predominantly, I think, why people are afraid of change.

Strip away the ego. The real you is waiting. It is the best you. Now, go forth and suck a dick!

You made me question my own sexuality. Damn. Throughout my life I have found certain men attractive for sure but never sexually..
I mean I could never imagine myself getting penetrated or penetrate another man. It just seems awkward to me.

Everybody is bisexual, once you strip away those layers.

A truly heterosexual person (without layers) would naturally find women with hairy legs and no make-up attractive.

That is all social conditioning.

As for anal, I've never been interested in doing that with a man until very recently. We are taught to be homophobic from an early age. There was a lot of anti-gay peer pressure when I was in high school. My brothers said anti-gay stuff. My grandfather said it. My uncles said it. My dad said it... Then there's all the STI fear. I grew up in the 80s during the HIV era.

I've only ever done hand/mouth stuff with guys. Now, I'd like to give and receive. Why not? Life is short.

As far as awkwardness goes, sex with women can be awkward and sex with men can be awkward. The biggest contributing factor to this is how repressed they are and whether or not that makes them incompatible with you. If you know what you like and you aren't ashamed (at all) of your body, then it's not going to be awkward with me. I would happily walk down the street naked. I would have no problem fucking someone in the middle of a festival surrounded by hundreds of people. Awkwardness comes from within.

I like fucking women in the ass. Fucking men in the ass isn't more awkward. If anything, it's less awkward because the guy is probably going to be more into it than the girl (if we're rolling a dice).


This is the most intriguing sentence you wrote.

It either means: you look at porn while masturbating because you're afraid of looking at your penis; or, you enjoy looking at your penis...?

Yes. But I wanna get married and have children one day, so if I see an attractive young woman around my age with a nice big buttocks and nice breasts (I don't care if she's slightly overweight) I know she'll give birth to healthy & strong offspring.

I always thought I had to have kids with women, but now I don't care. I will have kids with whoever I'm with. I can choose a surrogate with big buttocks and nice breasts.

By the way, you can't tell if a woman is going to give birth to strong and healthy offspring based off of that criteria alone.

I'm scared of putting anything into my rectum (seriously) even my own hands.

Scared of it feeling good?
Scared of poo poo?

There's that fear again.
Fear of sexuality.

Your bowel movements are bigger than your fingers.
Get a finger up there next time you jerk off.

Jesus, you're talking about cumming on your own face (I was joking about that, before) and you haven't EVER mined the old underground caverns?

Sometimes I would cum on my stomach, let it dry off and walk around town smelling like fish.

Wow... Just, wow.

You may be a filthier pervert than I am.
 
I have nothing against homosexuals. What people do in their bedroom is nobody's business but theirs.

I just believe that most men who are homosexual failed to bond with their fathers growing up or they just simply didn't have any masculine role model to look up to.

I also believe that pornography of any category can be unhealthy for the young mind. I even think it can turn the straightest man in the world into a homosexual. Seriously. Sometimes I felt gay after watching too much porn and I could feel the shame & disgust for even thinking about it. I used to find short haired women to be attractive when I was a teenager and I had this weird fetish for older women for a long period of time but I no longer do. I think porn might have been a contributing factor to this. Now women with long hair appear to be more feminine & attractive for me.

As for women who grew up without a father figure or come from a broken family might turn lesbian if they had a traumatic or bad experience with men at a young age. Some women tend to compensate this by trying to become men themselves and it can be shown in their behaviour. One example is them acting masculine.

Just my thoughts..
These theories have already been posited in the past by some psychologists, and been thoroughly debunked several times over.
Your relationship with either parent (or lack thereof) doesn't make you gay. Sexual trauma doesn't make you gay, though it can leave you with a very problematic view of yourself. Neither does pornography. Sexual orientation is innate.
If it was possible to 'turn' people, conversion therapy would work.

... And whether a man is naturally more feminine in his character and mannerisms, or a woman more masculine, is largely genetic.
 
I've struggled so much with male/female relationships.
My parents have always been super homophobic.

I don't care about my parents anymore.
I'm sick of having relationships with women.

Inches away from embracing my gayness.
Those feelings are so repressed.
LET IT RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
 
@boozeboy

As I said, you are not gay if you get turned on by a hard dick. To me you are gay if you feel like making a man your boyfriend or husband and you are not grossed out by the thought of hanging out holding hands with him, making out with him...

Otherwise is just sex, you know how males get turned on by almost anything, and you just want a hole to fuck and be done with it, like taking a piss.

I know I am not gay, not bi, even though I would have sex with a male friend just for fun and to cum. I get turned on when I see a hard dick which looks like mine, for some reason lol. I think it's because I find it pretty.
 
@ketquest

You're confusing romance and sex.

It's entirely possible to be gay and not interested in relationships.

You are obviously bisexual. You may be heteroromantic, but so are lots of bisexual people.

For me, in retrospect, the heteroromantic thing was socially constructed. It was homophobic. It was me being afraid of being judged.

you are not gay if you get turned on by a hard dick

And - these days - you're not gay if you suck a dick, assuming it happens to belong to a "trans woman"... and you're not gay if you love it when they fuck you in the ass or cum on your face.

Such absurd mental gymnastics to avoid being gay. God forbid.

Just go and experiment.

Dicks don't bite.
 
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