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Almost all drug subcultures are accepting of gay people. Anyone else notice that?

I see how the vibe could be rather 'brotastic', but would that necessarily go hand-in-hand with homophobia?

ebola

Really depends on whether there is fist bumping, especially with slow motion astral explosions following near off.. i think that's in this bro-quation.

off topic..
I remember in college it was like 70% long island guido-ish flat cap hat types in an update NY college... and i must have gave a regular what's up high-five/hand-shake to dozens of fists.. just out of personal habit, not that I wouldn't do it eventually. With germs and shit, i can't really logically be against it..

Perhaps it is because most gays have great taste in music?

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NoD said:
I've met some hippy-ish gay dudes, into the dead, phish, etc..go to shows. They looked just like reg hippies tbh.

ITT: yup. People tend not to wear buttons loudly declaring their sexual orientation on the regular.

ebola
 
Hmm I've noticed this also once I started on Pills. Notice where I'm from(Pill Billy Land), and being gay myself I've rode around w/ complete rednecks on the hunt for pills..really I think it has to do both looking for the same drug, and having that in common,I dunno. I'm in the deep south and know if I was rollin around with a buncha drunk rednecks it would be a different story completley..but I guese opiate users or any kind of drug user really doesn't care. Dunno why really. The topic of me being gay never comes up, nobody really cares... Maybe people are just more open minded now,us gays are all over the TV.
 
1k words said:
The only good Bears are the Chicago ones from 1985.

What's with all the bear dislike in here? They're like other people except big and furry (not to be confused with big furries ;)).

ebola
 
the drug culture i'm involved with (thugged out drug fiends) don't associate with gays. i have zero gay friends, never have (some bisexual females though). not to say i never will. i tolerate them though if they're around.
 
Drugs seem to make everyone a little more tolerant and accepting, even if it's not entirely sincere. There was this one guy we knew who was sort of a white supremacist with the swastika tattoos and everything, but, being a heroin addict in addition to a white supremacist, he had no problem at all with having to buy his dope from black guys of course.
 
This is an interesting thread...I definitely agree with the OP, drug and gay subcultures are linked, in some way. At the same time, though, illegal history aside, I don't think it's as true as it would have been when homosexuality was frowned upon by most of 'proper' society. I mean, hell, in America today, male homosexuality, at least, is very out in the open in the mainstream, on TV and in commercials, and it's pretty much the same for lesbians as well.

Transsexuals have to be a different story, though? They still aren't accepted by society by and large, in my thought, so I would consider their link to the drug subculture still alive and well - they're both basically forced into the underground of society, and not always by choice. Then again, I haven't had much experience with transsexuals myself, so I might be overstepping when I say that, but that's my perception from afar.

I've picked up weed before from a gay guy, and once somehow got tricked into going to what was basically an all guy, gay, party, lol, just to smoke a lot of weed, drink beer, and do some coke. It was very odd being the straight guy out when everyone else was high and horny, but there you are.

Also, I think this girl that I get weed from sometimes is almost definitely a lesbian, but I've never asked because I really don't give a fuck and I don't want to piss her off because she's such a great hook up.

But, regardless of society's acceptance, let's be honest, we (the people who are old enough to be on here) were basically all taught in school that society is founded on heterosexual families who might drink alcohol or smoke tobacco, but that's about it.

So, just the fact that gays and drug users, by doing what they like to do for pleasure, are basically directly subverting the same normative social structure that we were, for the most part, taught to, by default, follow as we ourselves became integrated into adult society, by itself leads to a relatively strong bond between our two subcultures. Also, in what I just said - the connecting link is a seeking out of pleasure. We have different preferences but hell if we just want our fucking fix.

Oh shit, I did forget one major thing...in the black community in the U.S., homosexuality is still very much frowned upon, so this link between drug and gay subcultures would be very pertinent to that community, much more so, than say, in 'liberal' white suburbia, to give an obvious example.
 
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I think it probably has to do with the fact that heavy drug users are - by and large - are considering social outcasts. Maybe that is too harsh, but there is some truth. Drug users certainly aren't part of mainstream culture (unless you are an alcoholic) and for the most part, neither is homosexuality. I guess both tend to be on a similar wave-length.
 
Ever heard of "gift givers" and "bug chasers"?

Almost certainly a myth, but shiiit......!

No it's not a myth. There are sites devoted to that sort of thing and I have encountered gay men who are into this. Sometimes people will intentionally become HIV+ because they think "Well it's just going to happen anyway." to get sympathy, attention, or benefits, or because they are not living in reality and think that the HIV meds are a cure or just like taking something like an aspirin or vitamin, and they have the mentality of "If I become HIV+ I'll just go on meds." not realizing that they're very expensive, and that they have not so fun side effects and you have to take them daily for the rest of your life.

I don't even know if the hippie jam band scene is really going anymore, but they were not so gay-friendly. Other than that, doing (especially scoring) drugs can lead you to hang out with all sorts of people you never would have before.

It's been pretty mainstream for decades but I can see how that scene is not LGBT friendly.
 
I think it probably has to do with the fact that heavy drug users are - by and large - are considering social outcasts. Maybe that is too harsh, but there is some truth. Drug users certainly aren't part of mainstream culture (unless you are an alcoholic) and for the most part, neither is homosexuality. I guess both tend to be on a similar wave-length.

my thoughts exactly
 
In the days before it was all informants it was hard to find undercovers who would go in bath houses or leather bars to make a bust. It was a pretty safe scene to deal in. Now its all tweekers and its just another subculture the law can fuck over.
 
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