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aleph-2

foolsgold

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hello good people just wondering if any of you have tried this before if so what are you views on this . im interest as i have a chance to try this one as part of a group investing in a sum of said chemical . so all input will be greatly appreciated thank you in advance :) p.s i did try a search first
 
I really doubt that there's any information on this one outside of PiHKAL. I'm certainly looking forward to it surfacing, sounds pretty unique.
 
I just read the chapter in PiHKAL on alpeh-1. It sounded really interesting. I'd do it if it was handed to me, but I'm not about to search for it.
 
As I recall aleph-1 dosage is thought to be really finicky between users (or moreso than with most psychs - something about it being a property of sulfur containing phenethylamines). So don't go off PIHKAL or other future posters' dosages for your first few trials. Start lower in case you're on the more sensitive side of the distribution. Obviously it's always important to do this, but even more with these.
 
Very interesting mate, pm me about this dude. I have wanted to see what this susbatnce is like
 
The Aleph series proved difficult to dose due to person-person idiosyncracies with respect to dosing, hence the series being abandoned at 7, with focus being moved toward the thio-2C phenethylamines. Still if I was offered an opportunity to try any of the Aleph series, personally I'd jump at the chance. Aleph-7 sounds very interesting, with the Beth state Shulgin mentions in the PIHKAL entry.
 
Aleph-2 sounds the best imo, just read all the pihkal entries for them and its pretty interesting. Would have to be pretty experianced though as the difference between trips even at the same dose sounds incredible and how everyone seems to have a different dose range. Would definatley get this if I had the chance, especially as it seems pretty rare.
 
Interesting. I might not be able to resist the opportunity to add this one to my collection. =D
 
Survived Abortion said:
Why would you want to experience the 'Beth state'? Sounds frickin horrible to me.
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I just guess it would be an interesting experience, though I do agree it does sound unpleasant. As nearly all my Psychedelic drug experiences are so positive, it would be interesting to experience this other side first hand. I'd only ever plan on doing it once for the experience.

To be honest, I suffer from states of anhedonia and mild depression whilst I'm sober, who knows, maybe I may even end having a glowing experience. Besides I'd be interested in finding out which receptors it affects, sounds like it may be a potential antagonist at some of the 5HT receptors, hence the state of flattening and anhedonia described in the PIHKAL #7 entry.
 
clubberdude said:
I just guess it would be an interesting experience, though I do agree it does sound unpleasant. As nearly all my Psychedelic drug experiences are so positive, it would be interesting to experience this other side first hand. I'd only ever plan on doing it once for the experience.

To be honest, I suffer from states of anhedonia and mild depression whilst I'm sober, who knows, maybe I may even end having a glowing experience. Besides I'd be interested in finding out which receptors it affects, sounds like it may be a potential antagonist at some of the 5HT receptors, hence the state of flattening and anhedonia described in the PIHKAL #7 entry.
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If you have never had a 'bad trip' or whatever you want to call it, do mnot aim for one. It isn't just horror visuals coming out at you, its a lot more undescribable and a lot more terrifying / scary / weird.
 
I've thought this one sounded pretty interesting, and i'm a fan of 2c-t-2 so this seems as if it'd be up my alley as well ;) I am a bit curious to see if a larger community experiences the same inconsistency in effects that are mentioned in PiHKAL. I've kind of suspected that the phenomenon mentioned by Dr. Shulgin may well have been due to small sample size. If you look at the first few posts of a thread on a particularly rare or otherwise infrequently-posted-about drug you'll usually see the same kind of variance.

However the variance noted in PiHKAL, as well as the sub 10mg dosage, warrants some extra caution with this one.
 
I've had one bad trip, LSD over 10 years ago, smoked Cannabis (which doesn't agree with me at the best of times), intensified the LSD trip ten fold, the visuals were both scary and awesome - to the degree of sensory overload. Since then I've never had the faintest hint of a bad trip, which includes raving of 5 mg of DOC in a club environment. I'd kind of struggle to get into that kind of space on a psychedelic, though I am not naive, its definitely a small risk every time I trip. The PIHKAL #7 comments weren't truly negative, even in light of the "Beth State" mentioned in the subjective reports. I would just find it interesting that a psychedelic drug could have such an inverting effect. Of course (and its an academic point really given the almost completely zero probability of ever tasting Aleph-7), if I did inexplicably ever get to try it, doses would be very low, maybe no more than half the max PIHKAL dose (my tolerance to phenethylamines seems to be on the relatively high side). Any higher than that would just be a bad move.
 
clubberdude said:
I just guess it would be an interesting experience, though I do agree it does sound unpleasant. As nearly all my Psychedelic drug experiences are so positive, it would be interesting to experience this other side first hand. I'd only ever plan on doing it once for the experience.
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Never ever do this to yourself, friend. Just trust me on that, please.
 
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