davesoviet said:
Sounds reasonable to me.
There was a drug price thread recently and I laughed at how many times people all over the US mentioned "2C-B" instead of "2C-I" and "2C-E".
And having known of people selling "research chemicals", I can't begin to tell you how many times "2C-E" has been sold as "2C-B" if not "mescaline" or 4-HO-MiPT was sold as "synthetic mushrooms" or "synthetic psilocybin". Your average drug user has never heard of these exotic compounds, can't grasp chemical names and abbreviations, and really couldn't care less what it is anyways because it's either "like acid," "like mushrooms," or "like mescaline" and that's all that matters.
I've personally encountered DOB on blotter and DOM in the form of geltabs in my day. The DOB was sold to me as "acid". The DOM was sold to me by different dealers as "really strong acid" or "synthetic mescaline". I eventually confronted the guy who sold me the suspected DOB and it's identity was confirmed. I confronted people who sold me suspected DOM and one confirmed it and the other guy insisted it was sold to him as synthetic mescaline and that is what it was (though both these dealers were acquiring from the same source). Those who admitted what the substances really were both stated that they just didn't sell it for what it really was because they knew they had something good that people who tripped would enjoy and it was too difficult explaining to people what it really was. It's VERY hard to market new drugs to people who really only care about getting high or the quality of the experience versus what they're taking.
I even encountered one guy a few months ago who knew he buying 2C-E and would turn around and tell people about this great drug they used called "3C3" and came up with his own name for it, "the matrix".
And still to this day, I can't tell you how many people I know that are convinced there is a difference between "acid" and "25", because "LSD-25 is the real thing but unless you're connected with hippy families you're only going to get acid".
Really... as far as most people are concerned, it's pretty hopeless trying to get them to understand this stuff.
couldn't have said it better myself. psychedelics, and many other mind altering drugs, fascinate me, and although I have an admitted substance abuse problem, I am still searching for more than just a 'high'. most drug users arent' interested in anything other than what makes them feel good. myself, I want to know everything I can comprehend before ingesting anything (although like many here, I've given way to temptation and taken risks at times).
When I first came across these relatively untested synthetic psychedelics, I was (and still am) hugely excited and fascinated, and am hungry for knowledge (both first-hand and bookish knowledge).
I have even been inspired to start study on basic organic chemistry, although we'll see how that goes...
When it comes down to it, most people just want to hear what they want to hear (i.e. it's like acid, or shrooms, etc.). If I was a dealer and knew I had Myprocin, I sure as hell would sell it as "synthetic mushrooms," because how in the hell are you going to sell "I've got some bomb-ass 4HO-Mipt man..." But I'm not a dealer, for the same reason I'm not in sales: I'm to honest to sell something as something it isn't (I would never make any money! I have to work with sales reps all day, and goddamn are they shallow, shady fucks).
You simply get a blank stare, or a reply along the lines of, "I just like to stick with the standards, you know, weed, X, acid, the usual..."
It's completely futile to try and explain how hypocritical and ignorant they are.
