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usdathashield said:
good still tho, congrats on the 5 days, im on day 2, tying to go 30 days. good luck on your next attempt!
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that was the other night, and last night was easy. yay! the hangovers aren't worth it. and when you get to the point where you are really just drinking until you black out, and it doesn't seem enjoyable anymore....i think that was my wake up. i don't want my kids to have a drunk for a mother.
 
I didn't read all of this thread....way too long by the time i came into it. I'll just say I never thought of myself as an alcoholic. But recently i perhaps question my view.

Since I've had to adopt a career that has prohibited what was a 12-13 yr. daily affair with cannabis, due to testing, what was social drinking has become a tad more serious actually. I've always drank....and to get drunk, don't get me wrong.But if i had a sack it was nothing for me to chill a few days/week/ whatever. MJ got me by. Without her however...i've turned much more into a binge drinker to get drunk/wasted/oblivious than i was before.

Blackouts have recently(last 6 months) become common. While a joke with me and those around me....in all seriousness....its scary how many nights i do not remember how they ended. Even worse I usually drove myself home. Not unusual for me to question wether or not i even payed my tab, though i generally did(having worked in restaurants many yrs), and even if i didn't i'm enough of a regular that i would just get a chastising later...no harm.

But when you judge your buzz from the night before by how fucked up your car is parked in the morning....how crooked it is...is it between the lines....how bad is that? when you have to walk out to the parking lot and do a walk-around of your car because u dont remember the ride home and check for damage? when you regularly wake up and have no memory of the last one or two places u went? "I went <insert wherever here> ? really? and saw who?"

It's weird because i never thought of myself as an alcoholic. More a stoner....or even drug user.....and thats not in a bad way. But since regular testing has left me pretty much with booze and an ever limited supply of psychadelics....I seem to be pushing the limits with booze trying to get the buzz other drugs always gave me....and it doesnt even work. I'm still left bored.....and concerned....with blackouts. I personally feel I'm a much better person high than drunk....but my career has left me no choice.

And dont get me wrong. If I'm an alcoholic I'm a highly functioning one. I keep a job. I've got a car....my motorcycle, my apt., and am currently paying down a debt I ran up in my younger more exhuberant years. I don't wake up to alcohol...never have. I never work drunk. My playtime is strictly my off-time....just as it was when i got high. Then and now I always handle my business.

It's just that I'm starting to feel my drunken persona, and by extension me, is starting to gradually become less and less me. And by me i mean who i used to be. It's starting to become such a blur of work, get smashed, wake up hungover and labor thru work, get smashed again because i feel like shit...etc, repeat ad nauseum....that i feel like i'm losing real focus. I get what i need to done....but nothing more.Like I'm sleepwalking.

I dunno....maybe I'm crazy. Well actually surely I'm a bit crazy.....but I've always been. I just feel like I'm starting to lose my hold on it. Like i'm not gone yet.....but I really need to watch it. It seems most of my free time activites have taken a backseat to hangin out and gettin' drunk. What happened to the things I liked to do? What happened to hobbies? Interests? Relationships(that don't center around people with whom i just get fucked up)? Reading? Learning?

Fuck. I dunno. Just felt like venting. I'll finish my beer now.
 
Maybe people in this thread can help me, its not about me, its about my good friend.

Im worried shes an alcoholic. Shes nearly 21, and has always been a drinker. But the past 6 maybe 7-8 months (to my knowledge anyway) EVERY single weekend, she gets absolutely fucking trashed. Like to the point where she gets herself in extremely dangerous situations, waking up in random houses, blacking out when she goes to clubs, walking off from her friends (when im not there) and blacking out, then waking up with her friends finding her, losing her phone etc. She really fucking worries me when i hear shit like this, shes so naieve, im so worried shes going to get kidnapped or raped or murdered one day... at the rate shes going, she does really stupid things when drunk, and wanders off from her friends (i dont know these people, but they are probably as wasted as her, from what she tells me). Then today she tells me shes lost her sim card, and not to ask why cause she got too wasted again, and shes in a bad mood...

How the fuck do you say something? Shes not an argumentative person, but ive had talks with her already after the last time she blacked out near a maccas in her area, with no fuckin idea how she got there. Ive told her she needs to cut down, and she did for 2 weekends, but now... She has NO self control when she drinks and i mean, most of the time, im not with her to say, slow down etc. Should i say anything... Or wait until something bad happens :S because i dont want it to... Advice pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
 
yeah defiantly a tough situation. if you 2 decide to drink beer, even maybe try to get her to stick to light beers (although she might just drink more)

if she didnt reject anything you said, the bugs gotta be in her ear. i would bring it up again, and if it still doesnt work try to contact her/your other friends to tell her as well. hopefully it will start clicking after a while.
 
**hAyzzZZ** said:
How the fuck do you say something? Shes not an argumentative person, but ive had talks with her already after the last time she blacked out near a maccas in her area, with no fuckin idea how she got there. Ive told her she needs to cut down, and she did for 2 weekends, but now... She has NO self control when she drinks and i mean, most of the time, im not with her to say, slow down etc. Should i say anything... Or wait until something bad happens :S because i dont want it to... Advice pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
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Tell her your concerns. Maybe remind her of the situations she's put herself in through drinking and what could happen to her - I had a friend pass out on a train once and get sexually assaulted, and have heard countless other stories involving similar situations. There have been a few threads in TDS about these sorts of situations, and from memory some of them were pretty confronting, both because of what happened and people's responses to it. Getting so drunk she has no control over what happens to her is asking for trouble and I hope she can start cutting down on her drinking before something awful happens. Definitely speak to her about it and let her know exactly how you feel.
 
^^ thanks guys. I spoke to her a few days ago, i think shes realising how much its affecting her, she said she's just going through a phase (and i believe her, as we've been friends a long time, and i did the same thing a few years ago with speed and she tried to tell me otherwise) But you dont really listen until you realise yourself. Hopefully she will slow down, i hate seeing her miserable, shes already depressed, but she seems to have wisened up to what she is doing.
 
cool, yeah drinking too much while it can hurt you physically, its the damage mentally that really hurts... currently drinking 24/7 myself.. sticking to beer at least tho.. i promised myself that much.. unfortunatly now i got a few mineral deifeinces, cuz i use alcohol as a substitute for food
 
It's really starting to bite me, hard.

I've been trying to modulate it by starting later in the day. Also, if I have a bite to eat, first...stick to beer...

But, these are little tricks. Not the solution. The solution is putting it down.
 
i started this thread and therefor i feel for all of you...motherfucking..its noon and i just realized that...wtf...
 
After writing the above, I went out and got some beer...then, later, I went out and got somemore...

Turned into a bad scene. My girlfriends about to boot my ass out. I think maybe the time is again ripe for me to quit.
 
I can't be bothered to read this whole thread because it's way too long. But I was actually thinking about this subject today.

I don't think kids are educated nearly enough as to just how addictive alcohol is. They really need to be taught this. They are taught that coke, heroin, etc are addictive. But not alcohol.
Sure, they are told to drink responsibly. They are told not to drink and drive. But I was never told growing up "Kids, this stuff is highly addictive."
My understanding was that there were these people called "alcoholics". These people were addicted to alcohol because they had a certain genetic trait that made them that way. It was hereditary. It was a disease. That people are just born alcoholics and it's that first drop of alcohol that triggers their addiction.
This was my understanding.
It was like "as long as you don't have specific genetic quirk, you had nothing to worry about". It was addictive to a small minority and completely non-addictive to everyone else.
Oh what utter horseshit that has turned out to be. If someone actually explained to me just how addictive alcohol actually was, I might not have ever touched it.

I used to have a 3 gram a day coke habit and kicking that was much easier than kicking alcohol.
 
I believe I was becoming an alcoholic... I would drink anywhere from 3-4 times a week if not more... I have started to control my addiction as i realize my teeth would be the first thing to go and i want to keep them til the day i die.... when i was on the dole i would stay up mega late and drink (this lastest for about a year, and lost my license for 10months for DUI)... i was on the dole for a year and now iv been working for a year. When i would get stressed out i would drink within the weeknights and find that it would numb me for work (if i was having a bad day i would drink to be numb the next day)... alcohol isnt something for everyday... its more out of habit for me but iv been trying to cut down and have stopped drink driving since i lost my license (as above) and dont plan to do it again.... i still find alcohol as an escape.. i find smoking weed better then drinking.. im not sure what is worse... taking meth/ice everyweekend like some of my friends or staying up late everynight and drinking when im stressed out... obiviously ill be happy if i live til im 30.. i know i might last til 50 (il last a lot over if i stop drinking,,,)
 
i dont like...but it almost makes me chuckle with the irony of how a thread about alcoholism generates alot of drunken posters.
i am by FAR no exception to this.

anyways...ugh...i volunteered to work for 6 days of the week mainly to give me a reason to drink less...its working...so-so. i cant plan on having a day off the next day and get totally wasted or anything.

i still drink too much. i stop every now and then, but then i have sleep problems and sleep meds are more expensive than booze..i run out of melatonin, count up my money between change, bottles, and what didnt go to rent from my check, and i find that more often than not liqour is less expensive than any of the sleep aids that work for me.

i'll run out of melatonin in a few days and then i'll be fucked. vicious cycle.
 
i haven't drank a sip of alcohol or a drug in more than 3 months now. and i was a full blown alcoholic and an IV heroin addict. i havnt been sober this long since i was early 15. AA works guys ;)
 
^nice to hear it :)
AA didnt work for me...i dont think its for everyone. although, AA is how i found BL because i'd get out of meetings and have time to kill waiting for a second bus to take me home. so i guess its not all bad.

supertrav77 said:
I can't be bothered to read this whole thread because it's way too long. But I was actually thinking about this subject today.

I don't think kids are educated nearly enough as to just how addictive alcohol is. They really need to be taught this. They are taught that coke, heroin, etc are addictive. But not alcohol.
Sure, they are told to drink responsibly. They are told not to drink and drive. But I was never told growing up "Kids, this stuff is highly addictive."
My understanding was that there were these people called "alcoholics". These people were addicted to alcohol because they had a certain genetic trait that made them that way. It was hereditary. It was a disease. That people are just born alcoholics and it's that first drop of alcohol that triggers their addiction.
This was my understanding.
It was like "as long as you don't have specific genetic quirk, you had nothing to worry about". It was addictive to a small minority and completely non-addictive to everyone else.
Oh what utter horseshit that has turned out to be. If someone actually explained to me just how addictive alcohol actually was, I might not have ever touched it.

I used to have a 3 gram a day coke habit and kicking that was much easier than kicking alcohol.
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^i didnt catch this post. totally agree with you. i hadnt even realized that until recently. i looked back and i know that i drink alot...but then i thought about how all the friends that i have that hung out with me started drinking heavily too simply because they come over and i offer them whatever i can share.

i feel like i ruin people sometimes...
 
I thought I was over it. I took Focalin yesterday morning. 12 beers later... I am retarded but not sedated or euphoric. So I pass the fuck out.

Fuck alcohol...
 
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