alcoholism thread

[rashandreflex]

the blatant encouragement of binge-drinking that exists in many cultures....

i think the pressure to binge drink in college is terrible. pressure isn't even the right word, at least for me...i didn't feel peer pressure that if i didn't drink, people were going to think i was lame...it was more, like, oh this is how one has fun in college and i don't want to miss the fun! i stopped drinking heavily (basically never drink) after freshmen year, and still i get the feeling every once in awhile that i am missing out because i don't get wasted, go to bars, spill drinks on my nice clothes, puke on the dancefloor, hook up with someone totally unattractive, do sundry other embarassing things, and then wake up to find out abut all of it the next day with a terrible hangover.

drugs used responsibly, on the other hand, are a viable option for kicking back in college (in my experience)...i don't mean that there shouldn't be anything fn about college...i just wish alcohol wasn't the legal option

Ever since then, alcohol has made me feel extremely shitty and poisoned when I have even a single glass of wine or beer with dinner. The result of this is that I have not had a single drop of alcohol in over a year (I'm 24 now, and this happened when I was 19). I just don't like it anymore. It makes my limbs sore, especially my legs, and makes me grumpy and tired and totally unmotivated to do anything at all. I used to enjoy drinking on amphetamines, but no more for that, either. I'm truly glad, though, that I hate alcohol now, because it's just really bad for me, personally (really bad for everyone, actually, as it is quite shockingly poisonous to humans, especially the brain and liver). There are about a million better drugs anyway that are much, much safer (physically), and can provide benefits if used correctly. These days I pretty much only use psychedelics, marijuana, and kratom.

quoted for truth...
whenever i drink now (very rarely), it's never an enjoyable high and it makes me feel sick to boot. usually i can't get more than a couple drinks down before i call it quits. it really pisses me off that drinking is still where social life converges to a great extent...sure, it's avoidable and in some situations using drugs while others are drinking works out all right, but still it's like a fucking alcohol hegemony (heh)

anyway i am not trying to belittle people's experiences with alcohol...i know it can wreak havoc on lives. i also think based on some medical studies i've seen that alcohol is extremely euphoric for a fraction of people, making it much more enjoyable for them. i would blithely say that those people are fucking lucky (as i wish my DOC was legal) but logically i know that having it so easily accessible makes it worse in the long run

 

[anhalonium9]

anhalonium has been drinking moderately everyday for a while now. i notice if i don't have at least one beer in a 12 hour stretch i start to get that panicy feeling. is this mild withdrawl?

 

[botaanik]

^Ît may be. Just one more day to pass by with codeine and benzos and tommorrow I've definetly get drunk. It has been ruf week for me and I need to loos myself a "bit". It's like every other weekend. I get drunk and then monday I'll be ok again to pass by working day's, but some after work for some day's I drink few beers.

See you tommorrow when I'm drunk @ bluelight when I'm rammbeling here

 

[Heyoka]

I quit for 16 years. I was really out of control.

Now, I'm on it again. Unlike when I quit, I can function. But it's a big drag on my life. I do not have a drivers license. If circumstances require me to drive again, I'll have to put the bottle down again.

If you have any kind of compulsive tendency with it, it doesn't go away.

Thanks so much for that reminder! It'll be 4 years in september for me and man I have NO desire for alcohol. Just thinking about that crap makes me want to puke. However, I do know that given the right circumstances I might start to actually drink again which would be absolute hell for me.

I sure hope you put the bottle down again. Alcohol REALLY sucks.

 

[Heyoka]

Any one have input on this?

Yeah.

Moderate now or yes, your body chemistry will change and you will begin to crave alcohol once you start drinking. If what you are saying is true, you aren't an alcoholic, yet.

Just because you are young doesn't mean you are obliged to drink foolishly. For those that can handle alcohol in moderate amounts (getting drunk isn't moderation) it can be a life enhanceing thing cross the line and it really sucks.

You absolutely ARE NOT doomed to alcoholism if you make wise drinking decisions to prevent it from happening but the only sure way to keep it from happening is abstinence.

 

[phactor]

Alcohol can be such a royal pain in the ass. Once you get a heavy tolerance it really starts to suck. I would be drunk as shit and would think I was almost sober.

I have gotten alot better with it lately. Thats huge for me. If you would have asked me a few months ago I would have said there was no way for me not to drink daily. I had no doubt that I would be a daily drinker for the rest of my life. Nowadays I am doing much better, I usually keep it restricted to just friday and saturday. I have slipped up once or twice but never in the huge amounts. I look back and how often and how much I would drink and am amazed that I was able to do that. Just like all the other addictions I have gotten myself into though. I have been able to beat them and so can you!

 

[haribo1]

Librium (chlorodiazepoxide) is the compound Diazepam was made from back in the 70s

Sorry in advance for being pedantic. chlorodiazepoxide was discovered in the 1950s and was the first benzo. When scientists looked at the metabolites, they discovered that nordiazepam was responsible for the drugs action. They then popped on a methyl group to make diazepam or a hydroxyl group to make oxazepam. Add the methyl AND hydroxyl, you got temazepam. It all started there, but it's because chlorodiazepoxide is so slow & long acting that they use it. It appears to have the least scope for abuse of all the benzos, kind of like phenobarbitone is to the barbs. The original.

 

[PharmaKon]

liqour really fucks me up but i love it. I definitely have a problem with alcohol. I rarely puke and usually drink til the booze is gone. Plus being in college makes alcohol part of socializing and i cant really avoid it. Im an avid black tar/opiate/opiod user and i find when i drink liquor when i have smoked some black earlier i hit blackout real fast. I dont know why im posting but my girl who i have been seeing who is really cool and beautiful has been telling me that i get too drunk. This is the first time anyone has told me that besides my mom which i thought was normal. I guess im just startingto realize my problem, and i really want to stay with this girl. So i guess im gunna stop drinking so much liqour but its hard. I dont know, i'm sure this is boring but whatever im hungover and thinking about it all, smoking more tar....ahhh my life.

 

[SilverFeniks]

I read not so long ago that alcohol is a contributing factor in a large proportion of suicides.

I'm beginning to understand why.

 

[haribo1]

I read not so long ago that alcohol is a contributing factor in a large proportion of suicides.

I'm beginning to understand why.

Yep, either during a binge (lack of self control) or during a hangover (feelings of desperation + bad sleep) makes alcohol a really dangerous drug for the old mental health. Know that far too well. Glad you spotted that. Knowledge = Power.

 

[usdathashield]

yeah and well alcohol feeds on depression unlike any other drug i have encountered. kind of makes it feel good and makes you want it really when you start drinking daily.

 

[guineaPig]

im also starting to find that my current job just totally feeds my drinking. i mean, think about it...i work in a kitchen, BOTH of the owners are sipping on mix drinks ALL day...i mean...the longer it takes for them to leave, the drunker they get. they handle it really well, but the executive chef...he encourages MY drinking to justify his own...like...the other day i needed dark rum for a recipe. legitimate purposes. the recipe called for dark rum...sarcasticly i say "but if you wann bring back double that amount, i wouldnt complain"
dude brings back like quadruple that amount. i handed it off to someone. i hate rum.
not to mention, whenever a guest decides they dont want the drink they ordered, the servers immediately bring it back to me...or the fact that when 9pm hits, drinks are brought back into thte kitchen...or that i need only walk about 20 feet and im sitting at a bar where i get a discount...
its fucked up. its a double edged sword. i love my job...but theres not a chance in hell i'll be able to stop drinking completely as long as im there.

 

[chief ten beers]

Alcohol is starting to really kick my ass.I lost my job,broke it off with my girlfreind,living in the basement of friends who are also alcoholics and really celebrate the drunken lifestyle.i'm either drunk, drinking, or hungover so i can't acccomplish shit at the moment as far as getting out of this.I'm a musician and worked hard to accumulate some nice instruments but am going to start selling them in order to just survive...i hardly play anymore.i dread going back to work and have no real spark to go out and pursue employment.life ain't so good right now and alcohol is the main cause.booze and depression is a bad combo and it's doing a job on me,maybe i'll go to a meeting today.....but probably end up drunk by the end of the day. 8(

 

[SilverFeniks]

Damn, I really need to stop drinking.
...
But I'm sure I could eliminate a third of my depressive hatred were I to clean up for a while. If only.
I just hope this sh*t doesn't kill me.

 

[B9]

But I'm sure I could eliminate a third of my depressive hatred were I to clean up for a while. If only.
I just hope this sh*t doesn't kill me.

That makes two of us!!!!!!!

 

[akshenethno]

Hmmm...I'm supposed to enter rehab at the end of this month,mostly for alcohol although benzo's and opiates are a big problem(just took 5 months to taper a 5year xanax habit and if i'm not drinking now...using gear instead)
When i originally applied for rehab i really did want to do it,get clean,study horticulture(although being homeless did have a bit to do with it).Now after having my addmision date repeatedly put back i'm not so sure,i really can't see much point,I'm 29,no friends,no hobbys,no where to live and no way to get somewhere(no references..never finished a lease),my health is dodgy...hepatitis C..broken teeth..destroyed shoulder...
I'm surprised my liver hasnt packed it in...It's fine apparently,I've done detox(7 days) twice in the last year or so and i get a liver function test each time.Detox is useless for me as withdrawals don't bother me much(besides benzo's)Considering what and how much i drink they should...Basically a cask of wine a day(4litres)and a few cans...works out to about 35 standard drinks a day for a few years now..which i suppose means i'm never sober!Whithin 15 minutes of waking up i'm having a BIG glass of wine and juice.I don't even like it that much and without pot it's shit,although that doesn't stop me drinking...Smack works...If i go back to that everyday though i'll be in jail in no time....jails one of the few situations i could not handle...fuck,I don't know why why i'm writing all this shit out...need to unload i suppose.
Anyway i probably will give rehab a try..things can't get much worse...Keep drinking like i do and i'll probably be dead in a few years...

 

[usdathashield]

good look above poster. i fucking cut my drinking down to a every other day 4 day a week basis and i still got a fucking ulcer or gastritis ( i managed to cut down from daily alcohol by lots of E 2 times a week oxy and weed.

 

[alcoholicwino]

Hmmm...I'm supposed to enter rehab at the end of this month,mostly for alcohol although benzo's and opiates are a big problem(just took 5 months to taper a 5year xanax habit and if i'm not drinking now...using gear instead)
When i originally applied for rehab i really did want to do it,get clean,study horticulture(although being homeless did have a bit to do with it).Now after having my addmision date repeatedly put back i'm not so sure,i really can't see much point,I'm 29,no friends,no hobbys,no where to live and no way to get somewhere(no references..never finished a lease),my health is dodgy...hepatitis C..broken teeth..destroyed shoulder...Oh,and i haven't slept with a girl i found attractive for 2years(this bothers me more than it probably should)
Anyway,I'm surprised my liver hasnt packed it in...It's fine apparently,I've done detox(7 days) twice in the last year or so and i get a liver function test each time.Detox is useless for me as withdrawals don't bother me much(besides benzo's)Considering what and how much i drink they should...Basically a cask of wine a day(4litres)and a few cans...works out to about 35 standard drinks a day for a few years now..which i suppose means i'm never sober!Whithin 15 minutes of waking up i'm having a BIG glass of wine and juice.I don't even like it that much and without pot it's shit,although that doesn't stop me drinking...although smack works...If i go back to that everyday though i'll be in jail in no time....jails one of the few situations i could not handle...fuck,I don't know why why i'm writing all this shit out...need to unload i suppose.
Anyway i probably will give rehab a try..things can't get much worse...Keep drinking like i do and i'll probably be dead in a few years...

Hmmm, your right if you keep drinking you will only live a few more years if your drinking a cask of goon a day.
I was drinking a cask of goon for 2.5 years a day, i had a fucked up stomach, felt like i was going to pass out all the time, blah blah blah. But thought my liver would be ok, maybe just a little damaged, turns out my sister asked me to get a hep.c and liver function test because she was worried about me.
Guess what, my liver is fucked i have 5 times the ALT that i should have, and i was told if i kept drinking that much i would not live past 30 (im 22).

I dont know maybe you have a tougher liver than me? But seriously with hep.c and all that booze, you wont live very long. I gave up booze 6 days ago, it sucks but is beter than dying. Guess i will just enjoy beer on special occasions.

 

[chief ten beers]

Hmmm, your right if you keep drinking you will only live a few more years if your drinking a cask of goon a day.
I was drinking a cask of goon for 2.5 years a day, i had a fucked up stomach, felt like i was going to pass out all the time, blah blah blah. But thought my liver would be ok, maybe just a little damaged, turns out my sister asked me to get a hep.c and liver function test because she was worried about me.
Guess what, my liver is fucked i have 5 times the ALT that i should have, and i was told if i kept drinking that much i would not live past 30 (im 22).

I dont know maybe you have a tougher liver than me? But seriously with hep.c and all that booze, you wont live very long. I gave up booze 6 days ago, it sucks but is beter than dying. Guess i will just enjoy beer on special occasions.

just what exactly is goon?

 

[usdathashield]

well ive fucked myself. its time for rehab unfortunately, or im pretty well fucked physically. dying for a drink i think, and unfortunately with my ulcer i cant even get down half a beer, let alone my godsend smirnoff vodka. maybe its for the best anyways...