Alcoholism Thread V. ti martwonies

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I really thought I was beyond drinking. That what is left of my emergency fund was safe. That I'd rather swallow a bullet than another drink.

There's no hole in my head yet, but there's one burned into my stomach from all the vodka consumed in the past 30 hours.

I just don't know what to do anymore; how I can possibly avoid something I hate with a passion any more than I already do.

My early death better be all I'd hoped for.
 
I've been a heavy drinker for years, i drink to forget every days problem. too bad when i want to stop drinking i get angry more and i cannot survive the day, it is evil but yet relief. i tried to take relaxing pills like Xanax but it was good but my thirstiness of the good taste was required so i had to stop the pills and go with the booze, maybe the ultimate relief is to mix them.

An advice from a heavy drinker, don't start it unless you want to die slowly.. it never ease the pain it makes it worse.
 
Captain Howdy: it's impossible to explain to an addict that he will eventually feel different. But he will, if he stays away from the substances long enough. It's a question of different modalities of consciousness. Your brain changes with using; it changes again if you stop using. The most important change will be that the cravings will disappear with time.
 
Been drinking a bit too much (still way less then I used to). It kinda amazes me how quickly your body acclimates back. For awhile, whenever I had a beer or two I just didn't really enjoy it that much. Over the Holidays I was back to easily being able to put down double that amount. Just now realizing I have been drinking daily for over a week.

Live and learn I guess, just gotta make sure I have less beer tonight and then take at least the next two days off. Also thinking I'm going to have to take a good week or two off at least, very soon.

Anyways not going to beat myself up over it. I should celebrate that fact that I'm drinking way less nowadays.
 
Five days sober. Plan is to make it to the 8th and keep the drinking to weekends-only again.
 
Nice Cyc, hard fought days no doubt. That weekend only gig is full of tricks as you well know. Anything different in your plan this time, any insight to why it failed in the past?
When you measure the fun while drinking against the problems of alcoholism, by how wide a margin does fun of drinking win out?
These are just rhetorical questions of course, as I'm really just wondering if you are winging it or have some crafty plan full of self-reflection and measured consequences!
Happy New year, gladiator.
 
TippyCup: Just wanted to say that you have some great ideas on sobriety and addiction, and I really think people should listen to you, because a lot of what you say really has a lot of wisdom in it. Keep it up!
 
Nice Cyc, hard fought days no doubt. That weekend only gig is full of tricks as you well know. Anything different in your plan this time, any insight to why it failed in the past?
When you measure the fun while drinking against the problems of alcoholism, by how wide a margin does fun of drinking win out?
These are just rhetorical questions of course, as I'm really just wondering if you are winging it or have some crafty plan full of self-reflection and measured consequences!
Happy New year, gladiator.

I actually think those are good questions to ask. I don't mind answering. In fact, it's nice to talk about.

Why did moderate drinking fail in the past? I think because, like smoking, and like coffee, and like oxy, and like valium, and like any other drug that has come and gone in my life, drinking is all about making associations. When I drink (in moderation) I feel euphoria at the very first sip. After a few drinks, I can laugh and cry and open up to myself. I can bullshit with friends, get in roaring debates, play poker or play X-Box and feel genuinely invested in all my victories and failures. Everything is just magnified and it feels like I'm living in stereo sound.

That quickly turns into a reward system. If I do well at school, come home, do the dishes and start dinner, then I can crack a bottle of vodka. As I'm doing these chores, my mood is improving because I know that soon I'll get to have that first drink. It's a rush of anticipation. After a few, I reflect on the day's accomplishments and the appreciation, again, is magnified. I reminisce about something that happened and it makes me laugh, or I think about my goals and all the great things I'm going to do tomorrow or next week, and it makes me brave and thunderous.

Of course, all these feelings start to diminish after a few days of successive drinking. Then, even drunk you start to feel like shit. At that point, you know it's time to dry up. Then you're fighting off cravings. The cravings come out of nowhere and are often combined with feelings of malaise, anxiety and depression. It gets better as the days go on, and you resolve to drink in moderation next time, so that the great feelings can be enjoyed, and the shit feelings can be avoided.

By how wide of a margin does the fun of drinking win out?

Ironically, the older I get, the more pleasure I seem to get out of moderate drinking. On the flip side, the cravings and side-effects have also gotten much, much worse. I find it becomes tougher to find that perfect balance, because I can better appreciate alcohol now, whereas when I was younger, it was sort of a drug of last resort. The less I moderate, the tougher the tightrope balance becomes.

If I abstain for a month, my first foray back into alcohol might be unimpressive. If I drink again a couple days later, it's better. Then better, then better.. Then.. fuck. There's that point when the consequences outweigh the reward. Back on the tightrope.

So I can't really answer that last question, because it's so variable, and seems to change as I get older.
 
hey everyone, just checking in...

haven't been around much lately as the computer's been on the fritz and im preparing to go back to school. i haven't had a drink since new years and i plan to keep it that way for a few months. i find sustained periods of abstinence are really good for me. plus i really want to quit smoking this year for good, and they go hand in hand for me.

so for now, im doing fine. all the usual tricks: gym, good food, regular checkups with the doctor, therapist, and of course BL!!

sending lots of support to you all, just keep going!!

:)
 
My tale of woe:

I got sentenced to 45 days of work release at the county jail for DUI- My second in two years. I wasn't even driving when I got the most recent one. The cops told me "I was thinking about it"!! (Thought crimes are now a reality folks!) I have gone 40 days without a drink so far. This isn't all will power. I am facing daily random UA's and/or breathalyzer tests. This is the first- and by god- the last time I have ever been to jail. I am getting out 6 days from today and haven't been having serious cravings, but the company you keep in a place like jail is not the kind to inspire sobriety.

Screwing up in the next 6 days is unthinkable. I have heard about other people doing just that with even more at stake. In my case it could be 45 more days in jail- thrown out of work release. In other's cases it has meant an additional 5 months or more in the slam! What were they thinking??? Alcohol is one of the nastiest drugs out there legal or no. Here's to zero tolerance to allowing any of a certain group of morons near my home ever in this new year and beyond. I made a big mistake, but it never would have happened if those idiots had just left me alone and/or I was willing to just lock the door and call the police.

Here's to a brighter and sunnier 2010 and keep up the good fight everyone!
 
I'm going to keep on harping on the exercise... like I said I slipped up and am drinking daily. Going to start the taper on monday and try to get back to weekend only drinking. But when I work out my cravings and desire to drink are reduced big time.
 
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Cyc, excellent description of that nice state of mind pre-drink and the pleasure of release.... it's triggering for me in fact but I'll just reminisce!.
It's the anxiety that made me string days together, that and insomnia from mild w/d.
In theory if you kept away from those levels everything would be dandy.
You sound optimistic and that's always a good place to be, a place of control.
 
Thanks for the compliment wings of wax. I survived my ordeal, and have a certain kind of self-diagnosed PTSD that forces me to constantly reflect and second guess my ideas of wtf happened. Coming on to BL helps me to understand what went so terribly wrong, and it helps me with the grief of losing my dreams and youth. I'm struggling to feel whole again.
If some of the experiences I read hear trigger thoughts that may help others, I'm humbled.
From my perspective I'm the one coming here trying to understand, and it never ceases to amaze me the insights and shrewd perspectives that abound.
Thanks though, that really cheered me up!
 
My tale of woe:

I got sentenced to 45 days of work release at the county jail for DUI- My second in two years. I wasn't even driving when I got the most recent one. The cops told me "I was thinking about it"!! (Thought crimes are now a reality folks!) I have gone 40 days without a drink so far. This isn't all will power. I am facing daily random UA's and/or breathalyzer tests. This is the first- and by god- the last time I have ever been to jail. I am getting out 6 days from today and haven't been having serious cravings, but the company you keep in a place like jail is not the kind to inspire sobriety.

Holy crap... how did you get online to post?! I'm impressed with that and even though you may not necessarily *feel* like being sober at the moment (understandably) you really can't even try to beat random UAs/breathalyzers. Being sober > being in jail for sure. Good luck with all that.

I've continued to stay away from spirits. I'm on a bit of a post-vacation low, was so busy in the last several days both on vacation and home that I slept in today. There was an earthquake and I had a bad anxiety attack, both of which threw off my equilibrium a lot. I am having a beer before bed and that's it, as when I do drink now I can become depressed and have rebound anxiety and I need to be happy and functional tomorrow. :)
 
My tale of woe:

I got sentenced to 45 days of work release at the county jail for DUI- My second in two years. I wasn't even driving when I got the most recent one. The cops told me "I was thinking about it"!! (Thought crimes are now a reality folks!)

What were the circumstances surrounding this? Certainly they didn't just catch you walking down the street drunk and give you a DUI. Were you behind the wheel? What happened?

Unless the car was in gear and moving, I'd think they'd have a really hard time making that argument in front of a judge.
 
yeah if you have the keys and are behind the wheal, they will try and make it stick. where i grew up in texas oh yeah, opening the damn drivers side door they can try.

you could maybe get a reckless driving, or disorderly conduct charge, but if you were intoxicated you violated right there on probation.
 
There may already be one posted in this thread somewhere, but could someone spare me the long search for one, and recommend to me a good beer taper, maybe one that has worked for one of you? I'd appreciate it.
 
- I was near my car- not behind the wheel. They insisted that I must have driven to that location- only 1/2 mile from my house- although I had left my car there the previous day. I had the keys because I have house/car keys on me nearly all the time when I'm out of the house.

I am on work release- so I am out of jail for about 10 hours each work day. I can't go to my house until next week, but internet access is available many places besides there. I'm really short timing it now. Only 5 days until I am able to live without curfews and the depressing environment of failure all around!
 
- I was near my car- not behind the wheel. They insisted that I must have driven to that location- only 1/2 mile from my house- although I had left my car there the previous day. I had the keys because I have house/car keys on me nearly all the time when I'm out of the house.

I am on work release- so I am out of jail for about 10 hours each work day. I can't go to my house until next week, but internet access is available many places besides there. I'm really short timing it now. Only 5 days until I am able to live without curfews and the depressing environment of failure all around!

Again, not to press you or anything because the past is the past, but was the engine hot? That would've settled it right there.
 
Been really good this weekend, really cut back. Hit the gym hard today as well. Set myself with a limit of two only tonight. May try to go without.
 
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