alcoholism thread [merged]

[banksy]

I remember a few years ago a group of us in the darkside pledged to the four days on three days off rule, I think it was we could drink Thursday to Sunday. I did stick to it and it helped balance my drinking out as I was an every day person, which I was'nt happy about at the time.... Then I was in training from moving from 7 years abstinant to putting my toes back in the water

 

[myles p]

Warning:


Do not take melatonin for more than 2 days in a row. Your brain will stop producing it on its own for god knows how long.

Really? Is this scientifically poven? if so then it is pretty worrying...

edit: day 4 so far...

 

[Acid Eiffel]

i guess at my worst, i would drink nearly a fifth a vodka a day and whatever was left, i would drink the next morning to wash out the cotton. my problem isn't so much that i drink everyday as it is binge drinking. i know i can enjoy just ONE beer or just ONE glass, i just need to develop those kinds of good habits more and resist triggers like stress or heart-ache that tend to bring the old habits back to the surface.

i won't stipulate how much im cutting back or put any goals on what i want to do as i feel a sense of disappointment (and ultimately a buzz lol ) if i don't achieve my markers.

best to my fellow drinkers,

love and light,

~AE

 

[RedLeader]

42 hours into my 100 hour home detox. Yesterday sucked bigtime - I had the tingles/electricity feeling in my hard and feet and had the twitchy eyes and paranoia feeling. It's since decreased and I feel a bit more calm today, but I can still tell that my body's wanting alcohol in my blood! It was very hard to sleep last night, I think I got two 2 hour chunks. Really postive, though about this. I think that this attempt at sobriety just might be the lucky one.

n30phy7e, I definately know what you mean about the whole third day thing. My third day is going to be a Friday night, my last Friday night in Brisbane before an extended leave, and it's going to be quite hard to not give in. But I am going to do it!

 

[Fjones]

fjones, yeah its gross, but, you can get to the point to where 40+ beers wont make you puke.

its strange talking about myself in 3rd person.

I forgot about this thread.

I try to avoid drinking because my biological father slowly drank himself to death, a withered frail old man at the age of 55 when he eventually died.

But when I drink, I almsot always overdo it. Everyone has a limit. My problem si I almost always exceed it, thinking that the correlation between consumption and happiness (Warning: geeky math alert) is a linear function heading towards infinity, when in fact it is more like an inverted parabola.

never mind the alcohol in 40 beers. How do you consume that much liquid? My perferred method is a quadruple screwdriver followed by a double about an hour later. I don't like filling my stomach with a lot of liquid and pissing non-stop all night.

 

[n3ophy7e]

I try to avoid drinking because my biological father slowly drank himself to death, a withered frail old man at the age of 55 when he eventually died.

I am SO sorry to hear that Fjones
That is such a tragedy.

 

[RedLeader]

In college, we had this challenge each year to drink 24 beers in 24 hours. The first year (which was my first year as a drinker) I made it to 9 (4 first night, 5 second night), and felt like absolute shit the following day and vomited.

In my fourth and last year, I finished by hour 13....felt like shit, but no vomiting.

Alcohol tolerance grows very quickly, as done one's ability to bypass the negative consequences of filling oneself with lots of fluid....it sucks.

Fjones, I see it as piecewise; sinusoidal up to a point, and then a hard turn into y = -5x. My days of inverse parabola even are far gone.

 

[Fjones]

I am SO sorry to hear that Fjones
That is such a tragedy.

He was estranged from me from the time I was 1 or 2 years old. Still a tragedy I guess. He was a brilliant man who never really foung himself. My goal in life was to not turn out like him. I am failing thus far.

 

[Fjones]

In college, we had this challenge each year to drink 24 beers in 24 hours. The first year (which was my first year as a drinker) I made it to 9 (4 first night, 5 second night), and felt like absolute shit the following day and vomited.

In my fourth and last year, I finished by hour 13....felt like shit, but no vomiting.

Alcohol tolerance grows very quickly, as done one's ability to bypass the negative consequences of filling oneself with lots of fluid....it sucks.

Fjones, I see it as piecewise; sinusoidal up to a point, and then a hard turn into y = -5x. My days of inverse parabola even are far gone.

Sinusoidal doesn't sond too bad but y = -5X is pretty brutal. That is why I like other substances so much better. MDMA and psychedelics for me have always followed a path simialr to Y = X squared leveling off into y = Square Root X

 

[RedLeader]

Okay, now officially 50 hours into my 100 hour detox goal. This really sucks - alcohol withdrawal is NOT something to joke about. But I feel like the peak of the bad effects has passed and I'm slowly starting to feel calmer and more alert. Seriously though, fucking hell. Sleep is next to impossible, and when I do I get HORRIBLE nightmares.

My flatmates asked me to pick up some stuff for them at the liquor store today, as I was going to be out shopping, and I was able to resist buying my own supply as well (though it was hard!).

 

[n3ophy7e]

Sleep is next to impossible, and when I do I get HORRIBLE nightmares.

My flatmates asked me to pick up some stuff for them at the liquor store today, as I was going to be out shopping, and I was able to resist buying my own supply as well (though it was hard!).

Yep, sleep is the worst. I laid awake for about 5 hours last night, granted I've got some things on my mind but then when I DID get to sleep I suffered from sleep paralysis really badly.

Luckily I'm so experienced with sleep paralysis that it doesn't completely and utterly freak me out anymore

RL that is very impressive that you were able to hold out from buying something for yourself!! The ultimate temptation and you beat it. Well done

 

[RedLeader]

Wow, I get sleep paralysis too. However, mine is almost certainly linked to mdma, as I only tend to get it 2-4 days after using. But yes, sleep paralysis is one of the scariest experiences in the world. And ya, I know that whole 'getting used to it' thing, where your mind is fully awake, almost "here we go again.." but you know you just have to play the waiting game. It still freaks me out just as much, though!

 

[n3ophy7e]

Oh absolutely!! MDMA makes my sleep paralysis go MENTAL
Really fucking scary

But I've been getting sleep paralysis since I was about 5. It comes and goes. Sucks huh!

Last night it just wouldn't go away either, ughh! 8)

Caffeine is my friend today

 

[RedLeader]

Ya, I've learned that you gotta force yourself to get out of bed and get your mind goin a bit before you try and go back to sleep, or it will surely happen again. And I'd take insomnia over sleep paralysis any given night.

Ya, I'm 35 minutes away from being able to hit up Coffee Club for first dibs. Haha.

 

[n3ophy7e]

And I'd take insomnia over sleep paralysis any given night.

QFT!!

Hehe "first dibs", that is such an Aussie thing :D
Love it.

Oh and just back on topic for a sec, while I'm here I may as well report that after my epic slip-up on Wednesday night, I didn't drink anything last night. Didn't even crave it once. Weird huh?!
I did a really long hard workout though so that would've largely had something to do with it

 

[Mariposa]

Hey, if you get to the 3rd day and you don't feel like drinking, don't drink. I make that mistake ALL the time when I take a few days off drinking. I get to the last day and I drink the next day whether I'm craving or not. So stupid 8)

This is exactly how my last relapse went.

Alcohol is the only substance I have ever lost control over. If I continue to drink, my life will be ruined. I may be able to drink again someday, but I need desperately to stop for the foreseeable future. My life is depending on it.

Day 2 here. I know I'm going to get triggered when I go grocery shopping and it is going to take a shitload of willpower not to buy the usual 1.75 of vodka.

The good news is that I have a giant benzo script and marijuana. No shakes, no DTs, no mood swings.

I will only be able to repair the damage I have done to my life if I am abstinent from alcohol for the foreseeable future. Please, all of us who are suffering from the misuse of alcohol, let's stay abstinent so that we can live happier lives. I know it will be difficult to be without my crutch, but I hope every day we stay abstinent from alcohol gets easier.

I resolve not to relapse on Day 3.

 

[RedLeader]

I will only be able to repair the damage I have done to my life if I am abstinent from alcohol for the foreseeable future. Please, all of us who are suffering from the misuse of alcohol, let's stay abstinent so that we can live happier lives. I know it will be difficult to be without my crutch, but I hope every day we stay abstinent from alcohol gets easier.

Yes.

I'm I will sign up for any pledge. Are you having difficulty sleeping Mariposa, even if you're not getting the other physical difficulties? I'm 58 hours into my 100 hour "detoxing period" and I've slept a total of 6 1/2 hours, most of it filled with nightmares. Most of the literature I've read said that after 4 days is when you really start to feel better (hence I will stop counting at 100 hours).

But yes, alcohol's been killing me lately - most of my polydrug days start with alcohol, and then it talks me into taking pills or speed, which in turn requires alcohol for the comedown. I black out and wake up to seeing that I posted in the nudie thread, or that I sent my ex a poetic email, or broke something or.....it's got to stop!

So yes, let's try and keep this alcohol thread going for support and see if some of us can't really try and take an extended break!

 

[SilverFeniks]

No one in my house is sober now {xcept the kitty}
I guess drugs just make me thirsty ..

Was hungover @ work alll day, but I'm hating most aspects of life these days so I'm only upset with the headache & lost brain cells.

Luckily I just skimp on food to afford my drink
Could be why I'm still 50 lbs light .. but I'm now countin the hours until Friday nite, oi.

 

[myles p]

ending day 5 and I'm happy with myself. Almost stopped for a beer after work. I work in a bar on campus so it is fucking tough. But as soon as my shift was done, I quickly left before going out to the bar and talking with anyone I knew. I hope in the next few days or weeks I'll be able to hang out in the bar after work and have a diet coke, but for the next while I'm not even going to chance it.

I'm back to a normal persons routine of going to bed at 10 or 11 and getting up around 7 or 8. Much better than my usual sleeping till 12, blowing off class, start drinking at 4 and drink until i pass out around 3.

I'm feeling good and proud but each day is a challenge. Tommorrow is friday and it will be the true test.

 

[n3ophy7e]

myles that is really really cool, you should be (and more than likely are!) very proud of yourself
Keep it up, it's inspiring