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Thanks June,

I may try it - as it is I cannot live with staggering about and slurring my words, as I am with these tablets. Uuuuugggggghhhhhh. Makes me wonder why I spent so long getting drunk, just to feel like this. :( xx <3
 
I really need to stop drinking. It's become way too problematic and am fed up of hiding from everyone as I prefer to drink. On Sunday I went to a wedding and didn't drink, primarily as I was with my parents and other people who assume I barely drink. Then yesterday I skipped eating breakfast and decided to smash the following in this order:
- 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- another 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- 3 vodka and lemonades (Not feeling drunk)
- 4 rums and redbulls (Getting tipsy)
- Bought food (KFC ultimate burger box)
- 2 vodka lemonades
- Another meal (Barramundi and chips)
- Bought a bottle of wine had 2 / 3's
- Had a beer
- Bed time......
 
I really need to stop drinking. It's become way too problematic and am fed up of hiding from everyone as I prefer to drink. On Sunday I went to a wedding and didn't drink, primarily as I was with my parents and other people who assume I barely drink. Then yesterday I skipped eating breakfast and decided to smash the following in this order:
- 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- another 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- 3 vodka and lemonades (Not feeling drunk)
- 4 rums and redbulls (Getting tipsy)
- Bought food (KFC ultimate burger box)
- 2 vodka lemonades
- Another meal (Barramundi and chips)
- Bought a bottle of wine had 2 / 3's
- Had a beer
- Bed time......

Holy fuck. Yup, got some tolerance there.
Hey, have you spoken at all about this with your Family or close friends, your partner? You doing this all on your own without anyone's help? You need to tell someone about this. Someone in your life that you trust.

It is good to share this on this thread but we can only offer words, not hugs which is what you need right now.
Don't carry this burden all on your own. Self love baby, self love
 
Thanks June,

I may try it - as it is I cannot live with staggering about and slurring my words, as I am with these tablets. Uuuuugggggghhhhhh. Makes me wonder why I spent so long getting drunk, just to feel like this. :( xx <3

HOw's it going Cartsman? Wondering how your fairing.

You and your sweety doing good, getting what you need all that? You two sound like super hero's to me and I'm sure your story has inspired all who have read it.
please stay strong and maintain that super bright light you indubitably have shining inside.

Right arm luv
June
 
HOw's it going Cartsman? Wondering how your fairing.

You and your sweety doing good, getting what you need all that? You two sound like super hero's to me and I'm sure your story has inspired all who have read it.
please stay strong and maintain that super bright light you indubitably have shining inside.

Right arm luv
June

Hey June,

I'm feeling a little bit better :) . Yesterday I had to put my tablets up to 200mg x 4 which has made me ultra sleepy, and ultra 'slurry' but I'm coping a little better. I think my tolerance is building because the morning tablets don't really have the same effect as they did on day 1 which is good. So, I get all of my housework/shopping done now in the morning before the afternoon tablets. My 'missus' is being super thoughtful - after a hard day at work, she comes home, makes sure that I'm ok, then makes me dinner when I feel like eating. I'm so lucky to have her. <3

I'm now hoping because the tolerance is building on the morning tablets, that it won't be too long before the afternoon doses stop 'flooring me'. I also have a CT scan on Tuesday 12th. They need to check that it is the trigeminal nerve that is causing this, and not my sinuses.

So how's things with you?

How's things with everyone else too? <3 xx


I really need to stop drinking. It's become way too problematic and am fed up of hiding from everyone as I prefer to drink. On Sunday I went to a wedding and didn't drink, primarily as I was with my parents and other people who assume I barely drink. Then yesterday I skipped eating breakfast and decided to smash the following in this order:
- 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- another 6 beers (not feeling drunk)
- 3 vodka and lemonades (Not feeling drunk)
- 4 rums and redbulls (Getting tipsy)
- Bought food (KFC ultimate burger box)
- 2 vodka lemonades
- Another meal (Barramundi and chips)
- Bought a bottle of wine had 2 / 3's
- Had a beer
- Bed time......
Woah! Noonoo yep, we alcoholics like to keep up the pretence that we are barely drinkers - don't we?

With a huge tolerance like that, I would guess that you've been doing it for a very long time. I think June is right. It is time to talk to those that are closest to you about what is happening with you, then think about ways that you are going to try and quit. Be it tapering down yourself, or an in house program, everyone has their own ways of giving it up.

You've made a really good step though - you know you need to give it up. If you are drinking that much, just imagine how detrimental it can be to your health. Do you drink this much daily, or is it only at certain times? You mentioned the wedding and not drinking much there - did you suffer any withdrawals? If not, then you may be getting out at the right time. :) This thread will really help you - I hope you're ok. <3 xx
 
I have been a daily drinker for a minimum of 10 years.

I currently own and run my own bar, which probably doesn't help matters! Been doing that for three years.

When I opened three years ago, I'd accept every drink people bought me from opening time onward - but that was too much.

So, I never have a beer until 9pm and never have a whiskey until 11pm or midnight. Obviously by closing time at 3 or 4am I will have twenty or more beers and perhaps a dozen shots of Irish whiskey in me, which makes driving the motorbike home interesting. Every now and again (I work seven days a week) my kidneys will ache a little so I ease off the whiskey.

I find that, on the rare occasions I don't work, I have no desire to have a drink or a cigarette. They are two things I just do at work and I never bring alcohol into my home, ditto smokes, as my family are there.

I'm fortunate not to experience blackouts or personality changes when drunk and I do "hold" booze well. But I am concerned at the long term damage I could do to my body with these habits and have put my bar up for sale. If it goes in the next month or two I'm going to have to make some serious life adjustments I rewckon.

Should be fun. . .
 
^^ Congratulations on decided to sell the bar!! Honestly it's one of the best things you can do for your sobriety right now. Someone trying to quit drinking, that owns and works at a bar, just sounds like a difficult mess. Soo good job putting your health first!! Alcohol is brutal on the body. It's awesome that you've decided to take care of yourself!!
 
It happened again last night. Drank the following:

12 x beers
3 x bourbon and cokes

Felt very drunk when I ate, which has been a regular occurance recently. I'll smash 14 drinks feel sober / tipsy. Have something to eat and I feel very drunk. Never had this happen before, before it would do the opposite, it would sober me up.

I don't know where I am taking my life at the moment. I get smashed and then go to work the next day like as if nothing happened. Sometimes I wake up in my car at 2 am realising I got drunk and drive home and go to bed and wake up the next morning fine.

I've tried AA, it semi worked however the place made me depressed and I've been a long time sufferer of depression over the years although since taking SSRI's 3 - 4 years ago this has changed. I am turning 29 and want out...I have diabetes type 2 and it's still not stopping me although it did when I first found out and stopped drinking for a month.

My issue in life is I feel as if I need something to stimulate me or make me feel rewarded as I have anxiety issues and can't seem to do the shit I want to be doing no matter how hard I try. However the booze atm isn't even giving me a buzz. It's just making me feel normal so to say, that magic is long gone...

What to do?
 
What to do?
First, decide whether or not you want to stop drinking.

If you do want to stop, then call someone you know in A.A. (You do have numbers, right?)

Talk it out.

In the meantime, forget about "your issues in life," your need for stimulation and reward, why such-and-such is happening even though it never has before. None of that matters. Just don't drink tonight. That's all you need to do.
 
No idea what happened tonight, I only drank 10 to 12 beers tonight and seemed way drunker than other nights. For measure when I was driving back from kfc I managed to clip my side view mirror with someone elses car. Not good, last Time I smashed a part of my car I was also drunk. Was looking at my phone for sports results and smashed up the right front of my car. It wasn't legal for it to be on the road however no one reported me either as I had only smashed a metal barrier.
 
No idea what happened tonight, I only drank 10 to 12 beers tonight and seemed way drunker than other nights. For measure when I was driving back from kfc I managed to clip my side view mirror with someone elses car. Not good, last Time I smashed a part of my car I was also drunk. Was looking at my phone for sports results and smashed up the right front of my car. It wasn't legal for it to be on the road however no one reported me either as I had only smashed a metal barrier.

Drink driving is seriously playing 'Russian roulette' with both your life, and other peoples. I guess you already know this though. My father was killed from an accident where him and his friends decided to drink drive. From what I heard when I was older - they had been doing it for years beforehand, and were never caught or hurt, so they just thought it was yet another evening. Please don't drink and drive - both for your sake, and for others. :(

As for anxiety issues - I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety disorder. Alcohol is a known depressant, and makes anxiety 10 times worse when you're drinking. I tried tablets, thought that they made me feel better, but, of course drinking on the tablets didn't let them do their full work.

When I got towards the end of my alcoholism - my tolerance totally dropped. I think this was my body telling me enough is enough. I would get absolutely smashed from a few gulps of vodka. Then the vomiting started. It wasn't what I had ate - because I couldn't eat at that stage, it was my stomach lining and bile... (Ewwwwwww) My eyeballs were increasingly more and more bloodshot, my skin I swear was beginning to get a yellow tinge, I was constantly pale. Pale and thin. God, was I thin.

Alcohol too offers that safe place. That soon wears off when it becomes problematic - as you are finding. Alcohol used to be the centre of my universe. I thought that I couldn't enjoy life without a drink. This of course I've found to be utter BS. I've found plenty of things to stimulate and reward me - and you will too if you look. For instance, I really love computer gaming and consoles. Xbox One is coming out at the end of the month, so, I'm getting that. Had I still been drinking there would've been no way we could've afforded it - the total amount we used to spend on alcohol was frightening. I'm sure the amount you spend too is pretty large.

I'm so pleased that you have identified that you are 29, and now want out. I gave it up around the end of my twenties, and I've got 5 years sober. It totally can be done. Once the haze is gone, you will see what needs to be done to get what you want.

AA isn't for everyone - for example, I gave it up on my own. Yep, that was hard, but totally worth it. There are other ways though, and if you want it - go research what is help is available to you in your area. Remember this forum is always here to help and support you.

Good luck! ;) <3
 
^Good post! :)

noonoo, have you talked to a therapist about your depression and anxiety? It's a good idea to get to the bottom of these issues so you'll have more support with quitting and having some other coping mechanisms besides self-medicating with alcohol.
 
^Good post! :)

noonoo, have you talked to a therapist about your depression and anxiety? It's a good idea to get to the bottom of these issues so you'll have more support with quitting and having some other coping mechanisms besides self-medicating with alcohol.

Thank you! :)

And just to second what Spork said - I attended a councillor after I had kicked alcohol, (and had the physical aspects of kicking it out of the way) and she really helped me. I talked about my deep rooted issues of why I self medicated with it. I went to her every Wednesday for an hour for about nine months. After my therapy was over, I felt I was ready to start my life again without using anything. It really was a clean page.

Good luck noonoo. :) <3 x
 
I have been seeing a psych since the end of highscool. Off and on over the last 14 years. I know what I need to do and I don't do it. Occassionally I do and life just seems so strange then. I want out but I admit am looking for the easy way out atm as I have had this issue for a long time and have tried quitting many of times. It's like as if I feel I deserve that althought it's obviously bullshit.

I went to see a DR today for my drinking, he gave me nothing and made it clear you can't substitute stuff to make you quit drinking. I was after the medication that makes drinking revolting sfter a few swigs. He made it clear it's a mental thing. Fair call.

Overall how did everyone here quit cold turkey?
 
Overall how did everyone here quit cold turkey?
Reading this question, and reading the questions in lots of your other posts, I can't help but feel like you're convinced there's something very esoteric in not drinking. Like, if only you could figure out the right combination of therapy and meds and coping mechanisms and techniques and attitudes and mindsets that you'd be able to stop. Maybe that's what it takes for some people -- a really complicated regimen that you dream up and put into play? IDK.

I wish I could come up with something like that for you. For everyone. But, that's not what it took for me. It took giving up all of that nonsense, which was just obscuring the real issue. It took facing the problem head on. It took putting down the alcohol and not picking it back up. It wasn't easy. Pretty far from it TBH. But it was simple. It was straightforward.

I said in an earlier post that all you have to do is not drink today. We'll work out a plan for tomorrow when tomorrow comes. If that's too much to handle -- and it might be, I get it -- then all you have to do is not drink for the next hour. We'll work out a plan for the following hour when that hour comes.

It may be urgent that you do this, but it's not a race. It's going to go at the pace of life -- no faster, no slower. Not drinking moment to moment. That's all. It starts to flow. Sobriety is closer than you think. It's what you want. Will you just give up already and let it happen? Stop pushing it away?
 
I have been seeing a psych since the end of highscool. Off and on over the last 14 years. I know what I need to do and I don't do it. Occassionally I do and life just seems so strange then. I want out but I admit am looking for the easy way out atm as I have had this issue for a long time and have tried quitting many of times. It's like as if I feel I deserve that althought it's obviously bullshit.

I went to see a DR today for my drinking, he gave me nothing and made it clear you can't substitute stuff to make you quit drinking. I was after the medication that makes drinking revolting sfter a few swigs. He made it clear it's a mental thing. Fair call.

Overall how did everyone here quit cold turkey?

Hey noonoo,

I quit cold turkey. The times before that I had been given benzos by my doctor, and I did use them in place of the alcohol to get off it. However, once the benzos were gone, so did my resolve to give it up. Then I went straight back to drinking. I had also been given 'Campral' which was supposed to stop me from getting the high of alcohol but, I can tell you straight it didn't work for me. I remember feeling the same high - but maybe that is psychosomatic.

So, when I REALLY,REALLY wanted to give it up, I knew that my doctor would give me nothing. So I didn't even try.

My partner told me that there would me no magic pill, and it would have to be all me. She was right. I locked myself away for a week of vomiting, shaking, sweating - all the things you can associate with w/d from alcohol. Yep, like Grace says it was not easy - it meant I would have to deal with life on my own. There would be no more bullshit excuses like 'I can't quit today, maybe tomorrow' no more 'I'll look at going to AA next week if we can have a drink tonight' no more of 'I promise I will cut down'. The worst thing about saying stuff like that is that you are LYING to those that you care about, and yourself. To give this up, you really have to want it.

There really is no easy way of doing this. Your doctor is totally right - there is nothing that he can give to substitute it. If he gives you benzos - that will just create another problem. As for the pills you want to make you sick, he is right - it is totally a mental thing. Besides, I have read that the pill that you want - 'Antabuse' is pretty dangerous if you drink alcohol while taking it.

I had been to AA for several attempts before my final attempt, and it just didn't work for me. Sure, I'd go for a few weeks, and I loved taking their booklets home to wave about in other peoples faces as if to say "Hey!! I'm quitting alcohol!" but, it would always gradually stop.

Again Grace is right. Nobody can do this for you - no amount of meds, therapy etc. You have to want this so bad to have the determination and will to do it. And how to give it up, you have to figure that out on your own.

Good luck! <3 xx
 
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I agree. Am being a Debbie downer bout this at the moment. I drank again today as I had the day off. It's like as if it was the normal thing to do. Had the following and still going:

- 10 full strength beers, vomited 3 times right after as I didn't eat breakfast or lunch.
- had 3 cans of bourbon and coke
- got something to eat
- had 2 vodka lemonades
- had 3 bourbon and cokes in a midi
- had a beer
- now am downing my first can of 5 of bourbon and cokes which are 440ml

It feels so fucked cause I'm not even drunk. Tipsy yes...

On another note I went to get a blood check today as last time I got told I had diabetes and it made me quit drinking for a month. Am hoping this time round as messed up as it sounds that my results are worse and that it really makes me quit for good.
 
I agree. Am being a Debbie downer bout this at the moment. I drank again today as I had the day off. It's like as if it was the normal thing to do. Had the following and still going:

- 10 full strength beers, vomited 3 times right after as I didn't eat breakfast or lunch.
- had 3 cans of bourbon and coke
- got something to eat
- had 2 vodka lemonades
- had 3 bourbon and cokes in a midi
- had a beer
- now am downing my first can of 5 of bourbon and cokes which are 440ml

It feels so fucked cause I'm not even drunk. Tipsy yes...

On another note I went to get a blood check today as last time I got told I had diabetes and it made me quit drinking for a month. Am hoping this time round as messed up as it sounds that my results are worse and that it really makes me quit for good.

So are you drinking to get drunk - or is it maintenance drinking?
 
Cartmans kitty, I truly believe it's no longer bout getting drunk rather it's maintenance drinking.

My home life atm is suffering, even though I'm 28 and live at home after moving back in few months ago. My folks always ask where were you last night? Like as if I'm a 13 year old or my mum asks why does your room smell? I usually disguise this by saying it's from asian food and cause she doesn't drink or eat asian food, she assumes it's from that. My old man knows whats going on but says nothing to maintain peace and my older bro has given up:(

Not good and something needs to change. Rehab is not an option. My family works based on face and they can't handle this shame if that's what you want to call it?
 
Cartmans kitty, I truly believe it's no longer bout getting drunk rather it's maintenance drinking.

My home life atm is suffering, even though I'm 28 and live at home after moving back in few months ago. My folks always ask where were you last night? Like as if I'm a 13 year old or my mum asks why does your room smell? I usually disguise this by saying it's from asian food and cause she doesn't drink or eat asian food, she assumes it's from that. My old man knows whats going on but says nothing to maintain peace and my older bro has given up:(

Not good and something needs to change. Rehab is not an option. My family works based on face and they can't handle this shame if that's what you want to call it?

I tried my best to hide it, but that as you're finding is a pretty hard charade to keep up. Maybe if you're more open with them you'll see that they can be pretty accepting. Especially now if you tell them that you are at your wits end and really do want to give it up. Keeping face is one thing, however if their son is truly suffering - their first thought surely then should be is to try and save you. If you were to go to rehab - who needs to know - they could just say that you are working away.

My job began to suffer too. Pretty early in my severe alcoholism, I began to go in (stinking of drink) and ask to leave early. Other days, I would be badly withdrawing so I couldn't make it in at all. I went AWOL too without phoning into work while I went on a two week binge. I had no option other than to be open with them. They were fantastic - they let me go on an indefinite leave while I sorted myself out, and when I returned, it was only to do part time hours until I was ready to go full time. I was back to my usual drinking levels before long - and they still let me go on leave because they knew what was wrong. How is your job faring?

So, if it is maintenance drinking - are you suffering from withdrawals the next day? You have mentioned that you are going to work ok - so do you have any problems there? (Like shakes, sweats etc) You went to a wedding and were able to control the amount that you drank - is this now an option?

Also, another positive is that at least you can eat. When I was at my worst - I couldn't eat a thing. So this is good. Are you able to eat without drinking?

Noonoo - I bet your family would help you if you only reach out to them and let them in. Show them this forum if it helps - it charts your desperation in wanting to escape alcohol. :)

Take it easy, and as ever, good luck <3 xx
 
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