I always thought of drinking as a very stimulating experience. I never thought of alcohol as just a downer like many people think. I just happened to stumble upon a website that says alcohol increases endorphins (like opiates), dopamine (like cocaine) and serotonin (like SSRIs). Is this information true? Am I exagerating to think that everytime I put a drink down my throat I'm ingesting something so powerful that have cocaine, prozac and heroin effects in plus the already well known alcohol's effect on GABA?
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Alcoholeffects other than GABA
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Pill2Chill
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I believe that's because it's a GABA-B agonist and that they have a different effect than the GABA-A agonists (like benzos).
I'm not sure that that's it, but I'm almost positive GHB hits the same (GABA-B) receptor, and also causes those effects. (at moderate doses).
Don't quote me on this though.
I'm not sure that that's it, but I'm almost positive GHB hits the same (GABA-B) receptor, and also causes those effects. (at moderate doses).
Don't quote me on this though.
Grand Touring
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No that information is correct. Although it may not be spot on, as we barely know the brain yet, but the ideas make sense. So to start, it does have effect on GABA. Alcohol also produces opiate peptides, of which do to the mu receptor--hence its analgeic effects. This effect is felt nowhere near heroin. Next, dopamine is working becuase the effects on GABA and mu are pleasable, and the dopamine is the pleasure center of the brain. So there are effects on the dopamine and cocaine is a terrible example, as cocaine is much more complex. And lastly, It's effects on serotonin are not good. Not sure which one is is but it either makes the reuptake larger, or weakening the reuptake. Or if it upregulaes the 5-ht receptors. Either outcome leads to lesser levels or serotonin. So, no it wouldn't be an ssri, although we are sure of it's effect on serotonin.
I got a little chuckle out of this thing as it has representations of different drug type uses as mice and then you.. http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/drugs/mouse.html
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Lol your post attracted my attention! Well, i feel that alcohol does affect others than the gaba as you had mentioned. A lot of people compare benzos and alcohol being very similar in effects.
HOWEVER in terms of anxiety relief i feel like they can relate, but alcohol produces more effects on me then benzos do (or used to, since im prescribed a benzo and dont get a "high" like i used to). Alcohol makes me more wild if i want to be, giggly, a little louder but still very functional at very high doses it stimulates me, unless im at home.
But benzos would make me a lot less anxious like alcohol, but it would make me more calm/classy and sophisticated, which can be hard to do on alcohol all the time especially in higher doses. Eh alcohol in the long run can be far worse than any other drug when heavily abused, same thing with benzos. (2 legal substances lol).
But yeah alcohol does affect more than just the GABA receptors unlike benzos, which is why alcohol usually produces more effects than benzos usually do. Also I failed to mention at a good dose of alcohol you can sometimes achieve this slight numbing tingling sensation on your lips/face and sometimes body, i find it pleasurable.
HOWEVER in terms of anxiety relief i feel like they can relate, but alcohol produces more effects on me then benzos do (or used to, since im prescribed a benzo and dont get a "high" like i used to). Alcohol makes me more wild if i want to be, giggly, a little louder but still very functional at very high doses it stimulates me, unless im at home.
But benzos would make me a lot less anxious like alcohol, but it would make me more calm/classy and sophisticated, which can be hard to do on alcohol all the time especially in higher doses. Eh alcohol in the long run can be far worse than any other drug when heavily abused, same thing with benzos. (2 legal substances lol).
But yeah alcohol does affect more than just the GABA receptors unlike benzos, which is why alcohol usually produces more effects than benzos usually do. Also I failed to mention at a good dose of alcohol you can sometimes achieve this slight numbing tingling sensation on your lips/face and sometimes body, i find it pleasurable.