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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Benzos Alcohol withdrawal and Ativan

Going into day three of no alcohol. I ate three solid meals, I only taken .25mg of Ativan, And the Day is almost over! I did have a bathroom issue earlier at the store where I had to rush to the toilet because my stomach was all f**ked up. Never had that happen From alcohol withdrawal. In fact, my stomach seems to be churning a lot more than usual.

I want to keep at .25 twice a day Until I get to day five no alcohol and than start focusing on my Ativan taper Which should be easy.

I worry about reducing the benzo to quickly and my brain being all messed up.
I know these are low dosages, but I never intertwined beer and benzos.
 
You may not even need to taper the Ativan since your dose is very low

How are you feeling otherwise? Any tremors or insomnia?
 
nomorebenzos said:
You may not even need to taper the Ativan since your dose is very low

How are you feeling otherwise? Any tremors or insomnia?
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No tremors, minor headaches, I will see how I sleep tonight with the lower Ativan dose. I usually always get insomnia when I quit drinking And am in new waters with the benzos. my old routine of essential oils and therapeutic music usually helps by day 6-7 of no alcohol.

yeah, if I can keep the dose to two .125 the next few days I feel like I should be good.. if anything, I might add a couple extra days of the Ativan and jump off Friday so I can deal with two shitty days of insomnia Before the new work week but that could just make shit worse?

thanks for checking in
 
So, I feel tired and every time I close my eyes it’s like my brain is being zapped and I wake up from a 10second nap. It’s Like I am being forced To get up. It’s not my usual insomnia whereas I know I ain’t sleeping And I am just suffering all night.
I am so tired, I just can’t stay asleep. Weird.

Maybe I am worried about my blood pressure and dont actually want to sleep do to fear of something happening?
blood pressure is fine. Maybe I’ll take the .25 Ativan.
 
Cloudman115 said:
So, I feel tired and every time I close my eyes it’s like my brain is being zapped and I wake up from a 10second nap. It’s Like I am being forced To get up. It’s not my usual insomnia whereas I know I ain’t sleeping And I am just suffering all night.
I am so tired, I just can’t stay asleep. Weird.

Maybe I am worried about my blood pressure and dont actually want to sleep do to fear of something happening?
blood pressure is fine. Maybe I’ll take the .25 Ativan.
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I have a special like for Ativan because it never got me high.

Best wishes and all the usual advice hope you are getting enough exercise and eating well also getting enough vitamin D by going outside during the middle of the day or taking supplements. Melatonin to sleep. B vitamins/C zinc ...
 
darvocet21 said:
I have a special like for Ativan because it never got me high.

Best wishes and all the usual advice hope you are getting enough exercise and eating well also getting enough vitamin D by going outside during the middle of the day or taking supplements. Melatonin to sleep. B vitamins/C zinc ...
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Yeah I only started using it to recover from a night of drinking or to try and quit the booze. unfortunately, a couple unsuccessful tries in the last 40 days has me worried about my Ativan intake. Eating great, try to get out walking, I gotta up my vitamin game.
thanks.
 
Hey OP just try and keep in mind it will get easier. It's great that you're keeping the doses of Ativan really sensible, too. I know firsthand the temptations benzos can have when you're feeling anxious. Just keep on going!! You got this.

I think vitamin d suppliments are strongly encouraged when you're quitting alcohol, don't know if you knew already but could be worth a Google.
 
axe battler said:
Hey OP just try and keep in mind it will get easier. It's great that you're keeping the doses of Ativan really sensible, too. I know firsthand the temptations benzos can have when you're feeling anxious. Just keep on going!! You got this.

I think vitamin d suppliments are strongly encouraged when you're quitting alcohol, don't know if you knew already but could be worth a Google.
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i took .25 at around 1pm today, no alcohol and hope to get bye with another .25 tonight.
I should go grab some vitamin d. I know for a fact, I lack it from past blood work. I think, I was told, it goes hand in hand with depression which Is probably a reason why we drink.
 
Definitely take vitamins like people were saying vitamin D and super importamt is B vitamins thiamine especially alcohol depletes b vitamins and they also help with anxiety and can be beneficial in helping with the rebound anxiety that comes with tapering off benzodiazepines and quitting alcohol.
i know you said AA is not for you but there are so many zoom and online meetings now you can just sit there like a ghost in the background and absorb the information and if it’s not for you it’s not for you. Stop going no harm no foul
There is 12step shit I use in my everyday life because its benefical. They have a saying for everything and a real grasp on human nature and even though I didn’t stick with the program a lot of what I learned stuck with me.
 
jane douloureux said:
Definitely take vitamins like people were saying vitamin D and super importamt is B vitamins thiamine especially alcohol depletes b vitamins and they also help with anxiety and can be beneficial in helping with the rebound anxiety that comes with tapering off benzodiazepines and quitting alcohol.
i know you said AA is not for you but there are so many zoom and online meetings now you can just sit there like a ghost in the background and absorb the information and if it’s not for you it’s not for you. Stop going no harm no foul
There is 12step shit I use in my everyday life because its benefical. They have a saying for everything and a real grasp on human nature and even though I didn’t stick with the program a lot of what I learned stuck with me.
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I am not completely against AA , I’ve never been. the religious aspect turns me off, but what you said is more than a reasonable reason to check it out. I been struggling with addiction for a long time, mainly alcohol. I need to try something different, if that’s being honest with my doctor, AA, CBT, talking To friends or whatever.
 
Cloudman115 said:
I am not completely against AA , I’ve never been. the religious aspect turns me off, but what you said is more than a reasonable reason to check it out. I been struggling with addiction for a long time, mainly alcohol. I need to try something different, if that’s being honest with my doctor, AA, CBT, talking To friends or whatever.
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There is a recovery saying “take what you need and leave the rest” and I feel that’s beneficial. you can see all the parts from these different disciplines and treatment/therapy modalities that work for you and create your own best practice out of it. You want to do it and that’s the most difficult part. The rest is just trail and error finding out what works best for you.
 
for the OP, why did you choose ativan as withdrawal method but not other benzos like the popular valium and xanax?
 
Well, another shitty night, just took .25 and still dealing with insomnia. Good part is no crazy alcohol withdrawal, hopefully the worst of that is over, I can soon focus on removing the Ativan and onward and upward… or whatever they say.

thats .50 for the day. I’ll shoot for the same, maybe less tomorrow
 
If you were going to get crazy alcohol withdrawal you would have noticed initial symptoms beginning within 5-6 hours of your last drink
 
nomorebenzos said:
If you were going to get crazy alcohol withdrawal you would have noticed initial symptoms beginning within 5-6 hours of your last drink
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I know my timeline, and usually the worst is over in 3-4 days. Been having some lingering issues probably cause the Ativan. Dealing with alcohol & Ativan. Insomnia is always the worst for any withdrawal, with me.

I never drank 24-7, more of a binge drinker, pass out drunk every night. as a drinker, I usually last 16 hours until I start to feel my body needing alcohol. I can last that long because I have so much alcohol in me while I sleep.

Definitely feeling better this morning.
 
I don't like to make blanket statements but I feel addicts have an aversion to AA like cats do to water for a reason. Yes, some people will sincerely try the program and will not like it, but I think people often are truly afraid of how "real" AA is from the very beginning. It is not a program that can be done halfway.

Not just AA, I think this is true for other similar systems of recovery. In the end I feel AA is cognitive behavioral therapy for addicts, performed and administered by addicts. The big difference in my mind is that people in AA are ready and expecting of complete dishonesty and bullahit. Honesty about emotions, intentions, actual events and everything I'm between.

Unlike a paid therapist an addict is going to call you out, dress you down and make the dishonesty into a truth before moving 0n. It is extremely uncomfortable to have someone expose yourself to you. You expose lies, in lies, hidden by lies presented by your own ego as truth.

It is a process that doesn't leave you the same person really. Not only do you have to get honest with your actions, you have to find out what the motivations are for Saud actions. The thing with 12 steps that people often miss is that it's not a system for not drinking but a system for not wantj.g to drink.

I am the antithesis of everything everything AA is about. I hated it. Now I love it. My main takeaway is that you can't knock it until giving it an honest try and that means something like 90 meetings in 90 days.

It is a single hour per day and all you jave to do is flip open your laptop. If someone is serious about changing their life, they can at least attempt the program that has done it best for nearly a century.

All of this is opinion but I'm a major proponent of the program. I've seen me many people promised freedom for q few shekels and they're all disappointed to find that money has nothing to do with it. It is FREE KNOWLEDGE
 
Keif' Richards said:
I don't like to make blanket statements but I feel addicts have an aversion to AA like cats do to water for a reason. Yes, some people will sincerely try the program and will not like it, but I think people often are truly afraid of how "real" AA is from the very beginning. It is not a program that can be done halfway.

Not just AA, I think this is true for other similar systems of recovery. In the end I feel AA is cognitive behavioral therapy for addicts, performed and administered by addicts. The big difference in my mind is that people in AA are ready and expecting of complete dishonesty and bullahit. Honesty about emotions, intentions, actual events and everything I'm between.

Unlike a paid therapist an addict is going to call you out, dress you down and make the dishonesty into a truth before moving 0n. It is extremely uncomfortable to have someone expose yourself to you. You expose lies, in lies, hidden by lies presented by your own ego as truth.

It is a process that doesn't leave you the same person really. Not only do you have to get honest with your actions, you have to find out what the motivations are for Saud actions. The thing with 12 steps that people often miss is that it's not a system for not drinking but a system for not wantj.g to drink.

I am the antithesis of everything everything AA is about. I hated it. Now I love it. My main takeaway is that you can't knock it until giving it an honest try and that means something like 90 meetings in 90 days.

It is a single hour per day and all you jave to do is flip open your laptop. If someone is serious about changing their life, they can at least attempt the program that has done it best for nearly a century.

All of this is opinion but I'm a major proponent of the program. I've seen me many people promised freedom for q few shekels and they're all disappointed to find that money has nothing to do with it. It is FREE KNOWLEDGE
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That sounds like what I need. I probably use the religious aspect of it as an excuse not to go.

I definitely don’t want to halfway this anymore, it’s getting to the point where alcohol is and will kill me. The sad part, chilling At work, I was thinking about grabbing some beers. I road the wave 🌊 and the urge passed. I have a decent job,with great coworkers and friends but I still want to run to the bottle. I know it’s early in my “sobriety“ but I need to do this.

should I jump off my low dose Ativan in the next few days And suffer the insomnia over the weekend or just rip the bandaid off tom? Today is day 4 no alcohol the worst of my physical withdrawal is/ has been over.

monday- .25 1pm .25- 10pm. Tuesday- .25 11pm and probably something tonight. Been using on off almost 2 months, never abused and at low doses. I know it’s a tough question. I guess, is it better for my brain to heel a little, Or is that not gonna happen until I am completely off the Ativan?

thanks for everyones help, Not just the alcoholics, benzo users of past and present, but everyone who has offered support and opinions. All comments are welcome!
 
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