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Alcohol VS MDMA

ar_gee

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Which one of these is more harmful tot he body and mind.
I have heard ppl say both are worse....so ide like to find out the truth....
Please explain the effects (short and longterm) of these 2 GREAT drugs
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If you go out and take pills once a week and your friend goes out and gets pissed once a week the person on pills is going to be FUCKED UP!!
Ive seen it happen myself, E fucks up your head...
I dont care what people say, E is so much worse, if you think otherwise you are only kidding your self and should wake up!
 
You can be a self-destructive alcoholic for years and stop and be normal.
You can binge on pills every weekend for a few months and be fruity years later.
I haven't seen any substance that whacks more people out more in the long term than ecstasy.
 
Depends on how you use each.. you can drink in moderation with almost no negetive effects, and you can roll once in a great while with little physical harm, but if you get trashed off either on a frequent basis, you will pay..
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Bullshit! Alcohol is far more dangerous than MDMA in every possible aspect. What the fuck!?!
 
I have a dergree in drug abuse and can tell u that alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs to the body, in the brain alcohol literally syinges the neurons drying them up and shrinking them. And thats the tip of the iceberg. Ecstasy does screw up your head, but since it specifically works on the seretonin systems, its mal effect on your brain and mood is more apparent, and if you use it moderatly the damaged cells repair themselves. but alcohol is a mutant drug literally fring brain, liver and skin cells, throwing off hormones, destroying all the vitamins and minerals basically destroying yourself, alcohol is a solvent, not to mention the addiction, more people die from addiction then all drugs put together, not to mention all the accidents directly contributed to it, then add up the families destroyed by alcoholic dads and moms, the dt and sezuerse after detox. Ecstasy does no where near the total damage that alcohol does, be real, its so addictive that politicians wouldnt even make it illeagal!Com on, think.
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hmm, again we hav ppl who beleive in both.......
does ne1 hav the affects of both on hand?
oh yeah and considering moderation aswell......
lets say the pills 1nce a month, on 2 pills
and the other drinks 10standard drinks every week
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In the long run a moderate drinker is probbaly better of than a moderate MDMA user. You can go out for a drink every friday night for years with out turning into a fruit cake. Daily alcohol use is of course a different matter but that would be comparing apples to pears.
 
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Tried it both, pills fucked me up ALOT more!!
There is no denying it, ive felt it myself!
Ive also seen it in my friends to an even worse state!
 
Look, I know that we are all pro-MDMA and would NEVER want to think of it as a "damaging drug" - and hey, I still maintain that MDMA is the MOST PLEASUREABLE CHEMICAL EXPERIENCE A HUMAN COULD HAVE - but you're only kidding yourself if you think it's a harmless drug.. we have proof it causes damage to the brain, and while you can greatly help yourself with stuff like pre-loading and an SSRI post-load, it is NOT A HARMLESS DRUG!
So, say one year, clubbing every weekend - you can either have a few drinks each weekend, or neck a couple pills each weekend (but would be sober the rest of the week)... I can GARE-OHN-TEE you that in a year, the MDMA would leave you in worse shape then the alcohol would...
So, whats safer, rolling once every few weeks, or getting drunk to the point you forget your name 5 nights a week? In this case, the alcohol would probably do more harm..
Still, I may be depessed as are most all of my roller friends, but we all agree - it was worth it! While we may be a little fried, the experiences we had on MDMA justify it..
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I kind of agree with what PhreeX has to say. I rolled every weekend for a couple of months and it was lots of fun. After my last roll, I said never again and haven't touched one in 8 months. I don't regret any potential harm I may have done to myself but I am glad that I didn't turn into a 5 pill a night e-head. Heavy alcohol use over SEVERAL years is probably worse than moderate MDMA use for a year. Otherwise, MDMA is worse and depression tends to set in much harder the more you use it. I was depressed for a while after my last pill but still not nearly as bad as one of my friends who has done it at least 60 times in a year or two; he gets the day after depression for a whole week after each pill.
So my advice is to have fun with your drugs, but don't have too much fun (with MDMA, alcohol, uppers) or it will come back and bite you in the ass.
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so assuming the guy who drinks every w/e
VS the guy who rolls once a month.....
In 10 years time who will be more fucked up????
 
geez...u only live once....use them moderately and u'll be ok..
but then again, "moderate" could mean once a week or once a month..
at the end of the day..u only live once...so why don;t u make the most of it...moderately...
 
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