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Alcohol Vs. Hard Drugs

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This question isn't for recreational purposes. Do you think alcohol is as strong as and as bad as illegal drugs? Personally, I do. Drinking alot produces strong dissassociative effects and you basically just don't know what you're doing. Not only that but there are intense euphoric effects and possible total loss of inhibitions. Therefore, I feel alcohol is underestimated and just as bad as, say, Heroin. Not only that but you can die from drinking alot in many different ways not to mention the withdrawals can kill you. Don't get me wrong I love drinking, but why is pot illegal and alcohol not? People need to realize how serious of a problem alcohol really is.
 
alcohol is a hard drug but it's legal because people have been drinking for thousands of years and are very accustomed to it which is why prohibition did jack shit heroin for example has been around for less than 200 years so it gained less of a following but still prohibition is doing jack shit but the government can't make nearly as much money taxing heroin as they can alcohol hence illegal drug it has been deemed
 
As far as the psychial tole and affect on the body... alcohol is one of the worse drugs out there. Heroin by itself, isn't really that harmful to the organs/brain at all.. of course, the indirect shit that being strung out causes can be pretty nasty. But chemical for chemical, intake for intake.. booze is much harder on your body.. inside and out.

As far as the psychological addiction goes... I realized just how bad alcoholics had it when I was in detox this past time.. Imagine if you loved whatever your DOC is, (in my case H) as much as others do booze.. It's bloody everywhere.. Liquor stores on every corner, people drinking all around you, characters on TV always with a social drink in their hands.. I can't imagine if I could just walk down to the corner store and buy a bundle of heroin.. or If every TV show I watched featured people socially shooting up..

Being an alcoholic is no joke both mentally and psychically. It's some tough shit. So yeah.. booze is pretty damn serious.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
As far as the psychial tole and affect on the body... alcohol is one of the worse drugs out there. Heroin by itself, isn't really that harmful to the organs/brain at all.. of course, the indirect shit that being strung out causes can be pretty nasty. But chemical for chemical, intake for intake.. booze is much harder on your body.. inside and out.

As far as the psychological addiction goes... I realized just how bad alcoholics had it when I was in detox this past time.. Imagine if you loved whatever your DOC is, (in my case H) as much as others do booze.. It's bloody everywhere.. Liquor stores on every corner, people drinking all around you, characters on TV always with a social drink in their hands.. I can't imagine if I could just walk down to the corner store and buy a bundle of heroin.. or If every TV show I watched featured people socially shooting up..

Being an alcoholic is no joke both mentally and psychically. It's some tough shit. So yeah.. booze is pretty damn serious.
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Thanks mr.S....I agree 100%, good example, too.
 
Alcohol is only legal because it's so easy to make and because it's been a part of our culture for so long. If we applied logic to the situation a lot of other drugs would be legal before alcohol. You could even replace the ethanol in alcoholic drinks (especially the 40% stuff) with ghb, properly dosed this would be much safer (not sure about the taste, but it's not like vodka is drunk for the taste).
 
If we're going to classify drugs as hard vs soft, booze would definitely go in the hard category.

On the other hand, y'all need to consider its built in abuse disincentive with the metabolization to acetaldehyde, and the fact that it's incredibly difficult to get physically addicted to. Also, the social normalcy of ethanol gives it the advantage of having cultural rules/guidelines in place to encourage responsible usage, unlike strong stimulants and opiates.
 
Another thing in favour with alcohol is that it is far easier to dose and it can be spaced out over time so the come-up as such isn't anything like most drugs and it is social to dose gradually - there's no going back after 150mg MDMA but you can get interrupted halfway through drinking and that's it, you can choose to stop drinking.
 
Never Knows Best said:
If we're going to classify drugs as hard vs soft, booze would definitely go in the hard category.

On the other hand, y'all need to consider its built in abuse disincentive with the metabolization to acetaldehyde, and the fact that it's incredibly difficult to get physically addicted to. Also, the social normalcy of ethanol gives it the advantage of having cultural rules/guidelines in place to encourage responsible usage, unlike strong stimulants and opiates.
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You spoke my mind.
 
I don't think alcohol is comparable to hard drugs if by hard drugs you mean cocaine and heroin. I think the effects of alcohol are greatly underestimated and it's certainly stronger than things such as weed, but still.
For instance, as was mentioned its addictive effects are much weaker, I mean so many people drink recreationally without being addicted and the same certainly cannot be said about, say, heroin users.
I also do think that although yes, alcohol's effects are quite strong, they can't be compared in terms of intensity. Even when I'm really, really drunk I still have some sort of understanding of what's going on. Yes there's a very strong loss of inhibitions and general confusion and all that but I dunno, I can still think relatively straight although of course I always make stupid choices like 'oh, let's go tell your crush about your feeilngs!' but anyway, with cocaine for instance I never have any fucking idea of what's really going on. And on heroin I'm simply on cloud nine and alcohol has never gotten me close to even halfway near that stage of euphoria.
 
Is alcy as bad as other drugs? I think yes and no. No cuz alc is made in a factory. I'm not talkin about shine where some can fuck up the process and not filter out all the poisons but I know that when I drink a fifth I won't od. Unlike street drugs where ya dnt know purity and their much easier to od on.

But obviously alc can be more dangerous than other street drugs in terms of doin dumb shit. Its safe to say bout 95 % of the crazy shit iv done alc was involved so yeah in that way its worse. Id be more cautious of a drunk motherfucker than someone who's high on pretty much any other drug.

There's a sayin that goes the insanee man met the drunk man and was scared shitless.
 
XThexXTank said:
Is alcy as bad as other drugs? I think yes and no. No cuz alc is made in a factory. I'm not talkin about shine where some can fuck up the process and not filter out all the poisons but I know that when I drink a fifth I won't od. Unlike street drugs where ya dnt know purity and their much easier to od on.
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That's a byproduct of street drugs being illegal. If you had pure, pharmaceutical heroin and always knew your dose it wouldn't be as dangerous as alcohol. You could still OD if you mixed that heroin with benzos or, ironically, alcohol, but that's not because the heroin itself is dangerous. That's dangerous because you're a suicidal motherfucker who combines depressants.

Alcohol is definitely like hard drugs. If you go out and get hammered, you're gonna feel like shit the next day, just like you would if you did a shot of heroin. At the same time, though, it's different because you can have a glass of wine just to get a little buzz and leave it at that. There's no way to do heroin and just get a little buzz. I still think heroin (and other drugs) should be legalized, but let's not pretend alcohol is this big bad drug. It's not bad when used responsibly, just like heroin and other drugs aren't, either.
 
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Even when I'm really, really drunk I still have some sort of understanding of what's going on. Yes there's a very strong loss of inhibitions and general confusion and all that but I dunno, I can still think relatively straight although of course I always make stupid choices like 'oh, let's go tell your crush about your feeilngs!' but anyway, with cocaine for instance I never have any fucking idea of what's really going on. And on heroin I'm simply on cloud nine and alcohol has never gotten me close to even halfway near that stage of euphoria.
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Then on this point, I'd have to imagine that you're somewhat unique. The complete, complete opposite is true for me...

Heroin? Cocaine? I'm in control, aware of my surroundings, hell... even when I'm nodding, I am still somewhat more aware than when I'm drunk -- considerably more aware.

Alcohol is just... just waking up the next morning, reading the text messages you sent, not remembering ever sending a single one of them, and having people tell you what, exactly, happened to you. "I did what?"

Never had a similar experience with heroin or cocaine, ever...
 
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Then on this point, I'd have to imagine that you're somewhat unique. The complete, complete opposite is true for me...

Heroin? Cocaine? I'm in control, aware of my surroundings, hell... even when I'm nodding, I am still somewhat more aware than when I'm drunk -- considerably more aware.

Alcohol is just... just waking up the next morning, reading the text messages you sent, not remembering ever sending a single one of them, and having people tell you what, exactly, happened to you. "I did what?"

Never had a similar experience with heroin or cocaine, ever...
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They make you lose control in different ways. Alcohol makes me empty my wallet at the strip club. Cocaine makes me empty my wallet on cocaine. Huge difference.
 
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