Ekstasis-//7
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This is a trip report I have been hesitant to submit. It will surely not do well for my credibillity and view others have of me in terms of using experimental psychedelics (AKA Research Chemicals) in a safe and conservative way. Hopefully though it will inspire others to treat these chemicals with a level of respect and care without having to go through such a traumatic and possibly life threatening experience as I did. Yes I realise it was very foolish to mix these chemicals together.
Firstly I would like to point out that part of my neglect in my own personal safety by using 2C-T-2 with other chemicals (knowing full well the warnings of 2C-T-x compounds having MAOI - B properties) was that the 2C-T-2 I had seemed to be very weak. Even at dosages as high as 50mg I did not get anything much visually except for star bursts off lights and some darkening of colour. The mental effects were quite mild too. I had come to the conclusion that the 2C-T-2 I had was very mild and more like a slightly trippy version of speed. I lost a lot of respect and care for the weak 2C-T-2 I had. This was a fatal mistake though. I was lucky the first few times combining low dosages of 2C-E an 2C-T-2 together and also once with low dosages 2C-B and 2C-T-2. There was no significant boosting in effects or dangerous side effects (heart rate, blood pressure ect). This time was different though.
I was hanging out at home. I threw on a movie. Was pretty disappointed some friends didn't show up and with the movie was pretty lousy. Had been drinking pretty hard. A lot more than usual. Got really pretty hammered and then make the decision of dropping some M1 (MDMA-bk) I weighed out 350mg. (Which has been around my usual dose). Then remembering rumours that some people on BL had said they passed out on the peak of M1 I got a bit worried as I had not had it with a large amount of alcohol before. I figured if I had just a little of the psychedelic speed (the weak 2C-T-2 I had) it might keep me awake if I felt like passing out. Again not another wise drunken decision.... Knowing the 2C-T-2 didn't even work properly at 50mg, instead of weighing I just took a small dab with my finger of the T-2 and ate it. Maybe 10-15mg?? Being drunk it was probably more.![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I remember watching the end of the movie and then must have gone back to my room. I'm guessing it was somewhere around T+20-40mins. Next thing I know I am in this world (it is a dream but I do not know it). I don't remember much except that I am looking for a bathroom. I am desperately needing to relieve myself and there is no bathroom anywhere. No one (in the dream) is helping me. I become more and more desperate. I am searching for somewhere at least half socially acceptable for someone drunk such as a back alley wall behind the pub but there are people that keep appearing and I am embarrassed and realise I can't relieve myself here. Finally I can't hold it any longer. I wake up to find myself standing in my room. I am fully clothed and have pissed myself. I am very ashamed and embarrassed. I have never done this before even when very drunk. I also wake up to find myself tripping very, very hard. I am a confused and in shock. I never expected to be tripping. I feel like as if there are an audience of people looking at me and somehow I feel like as if I am in a native tribe in the jungle. I say I think I have just done something very bad. Not too sure but somewhere between now and the next few minutes when I go and shower and change my mind is wildly tripping. I feel like a reset where my life starts (or the world starts) from the beginning. It is very bizarre and there is nothing else in my mind and the time. I experience feeling alone and ashamed like I am a blob in a white room or a controlled experiment or something. I then have contact with another blob, someone else and experience the basic dialogue like we are both on MSN chat. Strangely the other person is accepting. They are interested in to try and have fun. There were also some other things I experienced in a totally void and engaging headspace in my mind. It was easily one of the strongest trips I had experienced.
While I am in the bathroom having a shower I feel like it is a fair way to my room. I can hear some yelling going on in the house (a roommate had his birthday and I found out later on they had gotten in a drunken fight). I panic and think the cops are in the building. I feel tramatised and feel like I have done something very bad to someone. I can't remember exactly what happened in my room and am tripping balls thinking I did something to someone else. I am getting totally paranoid about the police.
While I make trips to and from the bathroom one of my roommates talks to me. He asks if I am okay I say yes. I ask him if I can chat to him and he says he has had a rough night and needs to sleep. Chat another time. He goes to his room and I go to mine. I open my door and begin panicking again. I go back and knock on my roommate's door. I tell him sorry but I am really not good. He finds out I am tripping balls and makes me chill out with him and his girlfriend for the next few hours. He tells me there are no police around looking for me and that I have done nothing wrong except embarrass myself a little and be foolish taking too many drugs. I have quite a few episodes of panic where I get very embarrassed and afraid and begin hyperventilating. My roommate and his girlfriend help to calm me down. It it quite possible that I had dangerously high heat rate during these panic episodes. I tried to keep myself calm of the fact that I had no idea how long the trip would last. It is quite possible may need to go to the hospital if things do not calm down. This is worrying too as I would then risk loosing my job if word got back.
I cannot believe how generous my roommate and his girlfriend where. They spent their time and energy to help me feel well. Bought me fruit juice and water and were always happy to do whatever they could to help me. Despite me encouraging them to go get some sleep, they didn't they stayed with me and had barely any sleep before work. I didn't realise how good these two friends of mine are. They eventually left me to try and rest. Most of my trips in my life had been done alone and never had I had people who cared so much. I'm glad to have such great friends.
The visuals where also very, very strong and lasted a very long time. I saw shiny, synthetic looking, light coloured tribal patterns on everything. Whenever I would breath they would shimmer, change colour and grow. They were even all over my roommates face before. There were too many visuals. More than I had experienced recently on acid or previously on 2C-E or mushrooms. I was afraid because they would not go away after many hours. At times I would feel blissful (probably from the M1) then as I would breath in again I would feel afraid and very uneasy. I tried to relax and sleep (I knew I was not going to). When I would close my eyes there was a crazy headspace of some bizarre twisted story I could not make stop. It was quite creepy. I ended up taking 10mg of temazapam. Eventually in the afternoon the next day things began dying down. Later on in the evening after a bit of half sleep I woke up feelin just anxious and took another 10mg of temazapam to help relax and try to sleep. Overall I didn't take a good record of time. I think I took the M1 and the 2C-T-2 around 1:30am and then the trip and visuals started getting very mellow around 3 or 6pm. So I think the trip lasted around 12-14 hours. The most intense part of my trip was in the first 4 hours. There were strong visuals and headspace lasting throughout almost the whole trip. I was very revealed that the trip died down when it did...
I generally find in my experience that when my trips start to feel more like the meaningless disgust of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas than the mystical glowing or positive life changing experiences I've had in the past it's a good time to re-evaluate my reasons for tripping and also slow down.
Take care guys
All the best on your journeys
Ekstasis-//7
Firstly I would like to point out that part of my neglect in my own personal safety by using 2C-T-2 with other chemicals (knowing full well the warnings of 2C-T-x compounds having MAOI - B properties) was that the 2C-T-2 I had seemed to be very weak. Even at dosages as high as 50mg I did not get anything much visually except for star bursts off lights and some darkening of colour. The mental effects were quite mild too. I had come to the conclusion that the 2C-T-2 I had was very mild and more like a slightly trippy version of speed. I lost a lot of respect and care for the weak 2C-T-2 I had. This was a fatal mistake though. I was lucky the first few times combining low dosages of 2C-E an 2C-T-2 together and also once with low dosages 2C-B and 2C-T-2. There was no significant boosting in effects or dangerous side effects (heart rate, blood pressure ect). This time was different though.
I was hanging out at home. I threw on a movie. Was pretty disappointed some friends didn't show up and with the movie was pretty lousy. Had been drinking pretty hard. A lot more than usual. Got really pretty hammered and then make the decision of dropping some M1 (MDMA-bk) I weighed out 350mg. (Which has been around my usual dose). Then remembering rumours that some people on BL had said they passed out on the peak of M1 I got a bit worried as I had not had it with a large amount of alcohol before. I figured if I had just a little of the psychedelic speed (the weak 2C-T-2 I had) it might keep me awake if I felt like passing out. Again not another wise drunken decision.... Knowing the 2C-T-2 didn't even work properly at 50mg, instead of weighing I just took a small dab with my finger of the T-2 and ate it. Maybe 10-15mg?? Being drunk it was probably more.
I remember watching the end of the movie and then must have gone back to my room. I'm guessing it was somewhere around T+20-40mins. Next thing I know I am in this world (it is a dream but I do not know it). I don't remember much except that I am looking for a bathroom. I am desperately needing to relieve myself and there is no bathroom anywhere. No one (in the dream) is helping me. I become more and more desperate. I am searching for somewhere at least half socially acceptable for someone drunk such as a back alley wall behind the pub but there are people that keep appearing and I am embarrassed and realise I can't relieve myself here. Finally I can't hold it any longer. I wake up to find myself standing in my room. I am fully clothed and have pissed myself. I am very ashamed and embarrassed. I have never done this before even when very drunk. I also wake up to find myself tripping very, very hard. I am a confused and in shock. I never expected to be tripping. I feel like as if there are an audience of people looking at me and somehow I feel like as if I am in a native tribe in the jungle. I say I think I have just done something very bad. Not too sure but somewhere between now and the next few minutes when I go and shower and change my mind is wildly tripping. I feel like a reset where my life starts (or the world starts) from the beginning. It is very bizarre and there is nothing else in my mind and the time. I experience feeling alone and ashamed like I am a blob in a white room or a controlled experiment or something. I then have contact with another blob, someone else and experience the basic dialogue like we are both on MSN chat. Strangely the other person is accepting. They are interested in to try and have fun. There were also some other things I experienced in a totally void and engaging headspace in my mind. It was easily one of the strongest trips I had experienced.
While I am in the bathroom having a shower I feel like it is a fair way to my room. I can hear some yelling going on in the house (a roommate had his birthday and I found out later on they had gotten in a drunken fight). I panic and think the cops are in the building. I feel tramatised and feel like I have done something very bad to someone. I can't remember exactly what happened in my room and am tripping balls thinking I did something to someone else. I am getting totally paranoid about the police.
While I make trips to and from the bathroom one of my roommates talks to me. He asks if I am okay I say yes. I ask him if I can chat to him and he says he has had a rough night and needs to sleep. Chat another time. He goes to his room and I go to mine. I open my door and begin panicking again. I go back and knock on my roommate's door. I tell him sorry but I am really not good. He finds out I am tripping balls and makes me chill out with him and his girlfriend for the next few hours. He tells me there are no police around looking for me and that I have done nothing wrong except embarrass myself a little and be foolish taking too many drugs. I have quite a few episodes of panic where I get very embarrassed and afraid and begin hyperventilating. My roommate and his girlfriend help to calm me down. It it quite possible that I had dangerously high heat rate during these panic episodes. I tried to keep myself calm of the fact that I had no idea how long the trip would last. It is quite possible may need to go to the hospital if things do not calm down. This is worrying too as I would then risk loosing my job if word got back.
I cannot believe how generous my roommate and his girlfriend where. They spent their time and energy to help me feel well. Bought me fruit juice and water and were always happy to do whatever they could to help me. Despite me encouraging them to go get some sleep, they didn't they stayed with me and had barely any sleep before work. I didn't realise how good these two friends of mine are. They eventually left me to try and rest. Most of my trips in my life had been done alone and never had I had people who cared so much. I'm glad to have such great friends.
The visuals where also very, very strong and lasted a very long time. I saw shiny, synthetic looking, light coloured tribal patterns on everything. Whenever I would breath they would shimmer, change colour and grow. They were even all over my roommates face before. There were too many visuals. More than I had experienced recently on acid or previously on 2C-E or mushrooms. I was afraid because they would not go away after many hours. At times I would feel blissful (probably from the M1) then as I would breath in again I would feel afraid and very uneasy. I tried to relax and sleep (I knew I was not going to). When I would close my eyes there was a crazy headspace of some bizarre twisted story I could not make stop. It was quite creepy. I ended up taking 10mg of temazapam. Eventually in the afternoon the next day things began dying down. Later on in the evening after a bit of half sleep I woke up feelin just anxious and took another 10mg of temazapam to help relax and try to sleep. Overall I didn't take a good record of time. I think I took the M1 and the 2C-T-2 around 1:30am and then the trip and visuals started getting very mellow around 3 or 6pm. So I think the trip lasted around 12-14 hours. The most intense part of my trip was in the first 4 hours. There were strong visuals and headspace lasting throughout almost the whole trip. I was very revealed that the trip died down when it did...
I generally find in my experience that when my trips start to feel more like the meaningless disgust of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas than the mystical glowing or positive life changing experiences I've had in the past it's a good time to re-evaluate my reasons for tripping and also slow down.
Take care guys
All the best on your journeys
Ekstasis-//7
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