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Misc Alcohol just doesnt work anymore..ugghh

personally i love alcohol , even to this day but i used to love it in the way u were talking about , was drinking for over a year straight before i got addicted to meth ... but even then i continued to drink fairly regularly but now when i drink its not nearly as good as it used to be , its just the fact that the other drugs induce so much more pleasure and better though proccess , in other words are just better . but i still love alcohol , right drink , right quantity , right consumption i just love the shit .
 
once you do opiates, alcohol is ruined. well i mean once uve been addicted to opiates
we're like high connoisseurs... alcohol's just wont cut it

i find a lot of people lose their taste for alk after doing opi's. there was a thread on the topic a while back here in OD. most people felt the same as u. there were a few that thought combining alk and opi was a good mix, and that alk wasnt ruined for them, but there were far more people of my opinion. not that this is a representative sample of the opiate using population at large, but hey i dont know of any proper studies on the matter... so i can only go by BL opinions. but i like u was curious if others felt the same way.
my opiate using friends in real life also agree with this BTW.

EDIT- socially where people are drinking ill force down like one glass of wine or something if i feel like it, but usually just weed or ketamine. ketamines good at light doses. obviously u dont wanna be holing or anything but yeah it makes it easy to talk to all the drunks later on in the night. i cant even bring myself to do coke anymore cause i just despise stims post opiate addiction but maybe that could work? ghb maybe its kinda like being drunk?
 
"no one should need a drug for social occasions"

come on guys, this is a drug forum and an imperfect world..we take drugs to wake us up in the morning, to sleep better, to lift more, to think more clearly...mankind has always used social lubricants, but for me the most popular one is of no use..i dont NEED a drug but it simply enhances the experience..

yes alcohol doesnt even give me much pleasure anymore..Ghb or bdo gives me almost immediate pleasure..hell a hard workout gives me more pleasure than alcohol..i do wonder though if some neurotransmitter muckup happened along the way to permanently mess up the alcohol buzz for me..

Ghb is much better social lubricant than alcohol..im in USA though so its impossible to find..
 
If you require drugs for social situations, you would benefit from psychological counseling.
All I said was if you need drugs, not if you want to use drugs. Of course we want to enhance the experience, it's when you cannot enjoy it without drugs that you need counseling.

GHB and GBL are not impossible to find, but there is no way you can rationalize taking GHB at most social situations.

I was just trying to point out that it's bad to become so reliant on drugs that you need them to be social.
 
^^why couldnt i rationalize taking Ghb at social situations??do you think its too extreme to just take it for social ineractions?what else should it be used for?? its the perfect social lubricant and ive used it at many different social occasions..again i can socialize fine sober but once u have had the experience of something so much better, its hard to not go that route..
 
That's the thing, if it's hard for you to not go that route in moderation, best avoid it completely.

It's not too extreme, and fine to do sometimes, but if it's something you come to regularly expect, or count on, that is a problem best treated soon as possible.
 
belfort said:
heres the deal, when i was a teenager alcohol was the best..get drunk with my buddies and felt like superman, lots of energy, sex drive, super motivated, really social..fast forward a few years and then i found Ghb which imo is a much better party drug, social lubricant than alcohol..i used that for a few years and then developed addiction to opiates...nubain, oxycontin, heroin and then methadone..when i used opiates i almost looked down upon people that drank alcohol because i considered the high to be garbage..had to quit the opiates because i went broke and then stayed away from everything for a few years..then tried drinking alcohol again and boy oh boy, the magic was almost completely gone..it wasnt euphoric at all but it did mellow me out but i felt sloppy on it..i was very disappointed that alcohol let me down..lol..then i found BDO which again i found much better than alcohol..i use that until i run out and can no longer get it...stay clean for a few months and tried drinking again last night but fuck, no magic again...just an overall sloppy mellow buzz if you can call it that..maybe im just older and the stuff doesnt work anymore or maybe the other drugs are that much better than booze??problem is, for parties and such i like to have something..

anyone else this way?to where alcohol has lost its magic touch even after infrequent use?if so, what do you use in place of it?
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I find the best replacement is to diet, exercise, stop smoking, live well.

Don't you think the "magic" of alcohol is lost because of all the "replacement drugs" you have used over the years? For me, alcohol works for the first week or so, but then I start to need the dope again because of anxiety . The best anxiety killer for me is; diet, exercise, etc etc..
 
^^i workout every day and maintain a decent diet but when it comes to going out and doing the social thing, it just isnt the same if im sober..its not anxiety really either..most definitely i i think all the replacement drugs have ruined alcohol for me..GHb/aderal/opiates are supermodels and alcohol is a 300 pound fat chick..who would u rather sleep with?
 
I'm sure if alcohol were the only thing we knew, then it'd be the greatest thing in the world. Like it is to a freshman in college.

But the truth is, better substances come, and we notice the flaws in alcohol. 2.5million people die a year to alcohol.

tricomb said:
GHB and GBL are not impossible to find, but there is no way you can rationalize taking GHB at most social situations.
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A-ha! Some people really enjoy it as a social lubricant. So long as one is a seasoned user, I see nothing wrong with it.

belfort said:
^^i workout every day and maintain a decent diet but when it comes to going out and doing the social thing, it just isnt the same if im sober..its not anxiety really either..most definitely i i think all the replacement drugs have ruined alcohol for me..GHb/aderal/opiates are supermodels and alcohol is a 300 pound fat chick..who would u rather sleep with?
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The supermodel is also a 16 year old and if you get caught sleeping with her, you go to jail. :P
 
belfort said:
heres the deal, when i was a teenager alcohol was the best..get drunk with my buddies and felt like superman, lots of energy, sex drive, super motivated, really social..fast forward a few years and then i found Ghb which imo is a much better party drug, social lubricant than alcohol..i used that for a few years and then developed addiction to opiates...nubain, oxycontin, heroin and then methadone..when i used opiates i almost looked down upon people that drank alcohol because i considered the high to be garbage..had to quit the opiates because i went broke and then stayed away from everything for a few years..then tried drinking alcohol again and boy oh boy, the magic was almost completely gone..it wasnt euphoric at all but it did mellow me out but i felt sloppy on it..i was very disappointed that alcohol let me down..lol..then i found BDO which again i found much better than alcohol..i use that until i run out and can no longer get it...stay clean for a few months and tried drinking again last night but fuck, no magic again...just an overall sloppy mellow buzz if you can call it that..maybe im just older and the stuff doesnt work anymore or maybe the other drugs are that much better than booze??problem is, for parties and such i like to have something..

anyone else this way?to where alcohol has lost its magic touch even after infrequent use?if so, what do you use in place of it?
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Without sounding like an old fart... wish yourself lucky. Wish the fuck it stopped working for me when I was your age.
 
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