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Benzos Alcohol + Benzos Worth it?

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So my friend has a 40oz olde english and 4mg clonazepam. My friend has a moderate benzo tolerance, maybe a few times a month. Is this combo worth it? or may it be too much? any comments, advice, etc. is appreciated;)
 
I would lower the clonazepam dose, both because it's being mixed with alcohol, and because using a few times a month isn't much of a tolerance. If he is only going to have a 40oz then it should be alright if he sticks to like 1mg of clonazepam. The problem with this combo is that once you start on it, you want to keep doing more thinking that you aren't that intoxicated when you really are. If he has more access to alcohol then a babysitter may be needed.

Also, the rest of the clonazepam should be stashed somewhere or given to a trusted individual to hold onto. Otherwise the person will likely think they need more clonazepam, pop a few more since they already don't care much since the benzos and booze are taking ahold of them, and this process may repeat throughout the night until the clonazepam is empty and your friend either starts a fight, steals something and causes trouble landing them in jail, wakes up in the bed of a creature, or all of the above.
 
^haha. But in all seriousness, Tommyboy is right on. I personally would not mix the two. I definately have in the past and didn't find the combination to be more euphoric than drinking by itself, the only difference is that one can get drunk using less alchohol, and black out a lot more easily. That being said, I really do not enjoy the effects of alchohol and given the choice between the two, I would take a benzo over alchohol any day. Mixing them with alchohol just dirties the effects of the benzo's.
 
lol my mate blacked out like a sack of shit on 2mg clonazepam and 8 cans of stella. I checked his pulse throughout the night, he was still breathing, heavily actually suprisingly enough but yeah bad combo.
 
A drug user who is responsible (knows their limits, does not become excessively rowdy or disagreeable under the influence) and doesn't ingest this combination too often shouldn't have problems. They may even avoid some toxicity that would otherwise be contributed by alcohol.

I just read a thread about someone who can take hundreds of milligrams of multiple benzodiazepines and not feel pleasant. You do not want to end up like this. So please keep it occasional.
 
Tommyboy said:
The problem with this combo is that once you start on it, you want to keep doing more thinking that you aren't that intoxicated when you really are.

and this process may repeat throughout the night until the clonazepam is empty and your friend either starts a fight, steals something and causes trouble landing them in jail, wakes up in the bed of a creature, or all of the above.
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all this haha.

i would take the k-pin, drink 40 , take another k-pin, then give last 2 k-pins to a trusted friend to hold onto. ( a friend who is not drinking and taking k-pins obviously )
 
It is enjoyable if you exercise caution and keep doses of both low. I found that I appreciated it much more as I got older, but that was because I liked my buzzes on the mild side at that point. A good craft beer or three and a benzo can be a really nice way to relax by yourself or go out for a quiet evening with some friends or significant other.

However, lots of people get themselves into trouble with this mix. I should note that my GABA tolerance is naturally high on its own and I haven't done it any favors with my use (especially in the past) either.

Also, this combo really is playing with fire when it comes to respiratory depression. When mixing any type of downer drugs that is the case and this is no exception. Also, I have seen some people get really really addicted to this combination and it is not good. Withdrawal becomes way worse and way more dangerous if you are hooked on both benzos and booze. You would probably have to taper off the benzos first and then the booze or vice versa one at a time.
 
Znegative said:
^haha. But in all seriousness, Tommyboy is right on. I personally would not mix the two. I definately have in the past and didn't find the combination to be more euphoric than drinking by itself, the only difference is that one can get drunk using less alchohol, and black out a lot more easily. That being said, I really do not enjoy the effects of alchohol and given the choice between the two, I would take a benzo over alchohol any day. Mixing them with alchohol just dirties the effects of the benzo's.
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^This. <3

I sure as hell would not mix them, it's not at all worth it IMO.

Either drink more alcohol, or take more benzodiazepines, not both. If you're not where you want to be, slowly titrate your dose up, don't add in other drugs that exponentially raise risks of fatal CNS/Respiratory depression and doing things you'll regret, like tommyboy so kindly illustrated.
 
But yes, 40 ounces of beer and 4 milligrams of Clonazepam is way too much. Also, some 40s are malt liquor which means its abv is around 8.0 which is basically close to 2 "light" beers per 12 ounces.
 
Take all 4mg and maybe drink 1/2 the beer or take 2mg and drink all the beer. phactor is right about the ABV, a 40 might end up being the alcohol equivalent of a six pack if it's malt liquor. Just don't do go mixing in any other downers (i.e. pain meds) and everything will go smooooothly.
 
A while back i was going to a party with a girl i was talking to and really interested in. I was a little bit nervous before the night, so i took 1.5 mg xanax beforehand. I showed up at her house, super relaxed. We sat on the porch and talked, everything was going great. I was loose, and I could tell she was into me. Score. We get to the party, and I did two shots of jaegermeister.

Fast forward to waking up on my buddy's couch 10 hours later. Whaaaa happened? I passed out and had shit written on my face. My buddy showed me a video of them shaking me trying to get me to wake up. It was bizarre. Anybody who's ever had a benzo/booze blackout knows what i'm talking about. I never got another chance with the gal, and will never, no matter how small the dose, mix benzos and booze!!
 
the combination of alcohol and benzodiazepines can be relaxing and moderately fun if you know your limits and stick to that.
however, i've yet to encouter a drug or drug combo that alters my judgment in a worse way.
 
A wouldn't recommend it, however that said, i could easily go a drink and some blues the now. The relief from anxiety these drugs combined give me, is just not worth the trouble they can get me in.
 
even i wouldn't reccomend it. it's a recipe for disaster, blackout central and heavy CNS depression.

if it was valium, it would be a different story, for me when i drank alcohol, valium calmed me down. no other benzo did...

it will also probably turn you into a blubbering idiot during your blackout period. enjoy!
 
xxxyyy said:
the combination of alcohol and benzodiazepines can be relaxing and moderately fun if you know your limits and stick to that.
however, i've yet to encouter a drug or drug combo that alters my judgment in a worse way.
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I came in here to say this.
Benzos and alcohol make me ultimately fearless.
I have done both great and horrible things on the combination.

And my best advice is to leave the majority of your benzo stash somewhere you will not be sleeping. My friend died from consuming his entire xanax collection after a night of drinking. RIP.
 
Even with the best of intentions of low dose benzos and light drinking, the combination usually ends poorly. You end up wanting more and often in many peoples cases giving in. From there it's a slippery slope.

You end up making an ass of yourself almost always, and there can become a strong possibility for severe / life threatening interaction if you keep dosing once inhibitions are lowered.
 
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