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sikeadelik

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Now for YEARS I have used this site in conjunction with erowid to gain resourceful information on my endeavors. Usually there is a clear cut answer and for years I have never felt the need to register an account as my questions were always previously asked and answered. Today, I have a problem. I have read most of the information available on the forums about this topic. However the information is contradictory and never seems to be posted by a regular user of adderall. I am prescribed 20mg twice daily of the instant release form of the medication. I just started taking them again after years of being off it. Maybe for two weeks now. Prior to getting back on my meds I got involved in the EDM scene in my area (detroit, mi) and began using unadulterated MDMA. The problem is the last show I went too I took double my usual dose ~400mg and got wayyy less euphoric effects. I initially took ~300mg and then got a fourth dose later in the night. I have been using ~200 mg every other time I went to a show and had results. The next show I plan to attend is on Xmas night. I plan on abstaining from my adderall xmas eve and all of xmas. Will this be enough to bring back the euphoria?
 
Adderall will have an effect on your MDMA tolerance as you've found.
The longer break you take off Adderall and MDMA the more your tolerance will drop and your serotonin levels will rise.

The break you've suggested probably won't have too much of an effect on you experience as it's only 6 days iirc?
Still, it'll probably have some effect. More so if you "preload" in the days running up to your dose.

Some folk swear by it, some don't bother and say it doesn't help them.
 
Sorry, should've explained that.

Basically, as the majority of MDMAs effects are as a result of serotonin release the higher your serotonin levels the greater the euphoria.

A few people on here suggest the use of supplements in the days leading up to your dose, certain foods can also raise serotonin levels by encouraging it's synthesis in your brain. As a result, taking serotonin boosting supplements in the days leading up to your dose should increase the euphoric effects you seek.

5-HTP is available from a lot of health stores and is a direct precursor to serotonin in the brain.

L-Tryptophan is found in foods such as eggs, oats etc and can also be purchased in capsule form from health stores.
L-Tryptophan is metabolised in-vivo to serotonin and melatonin so that's another option to consider as an alternative or to be used in conjunction with 5-HTP.

Serotonin levels aside, some people recommend other supplements and dietary changes in the time leading up to your dose.

Antioxidants - Vitamin C, Vitamin E etc - Can apparently reduce some of the side-effects of mdma and make the overall experience more enjoyable, though I'm pretty sure they have little to no impact on the levels of euphoria.

On the topic of tolerance, there are some anecdotal reports of nootropic supplements (such as piracetam) being useful in avoiding tolerance. It's generally recommended to be taken for about 3 days to a week before your dose. Though I think the FDA have recently stopped its sale as a supplement in the US.
 
Adderall clears from your system very quickly. I take 20mg once or twice daily. If I take my two doses on the same day as I roll, I have definitely noticed a diminished effect. However, when I take my doses the day before and skip them on the day of rolling, I roll normally.
 
Just noticed this thread summarising the uses of supplements with relation to mdma, might be worth a read sikeadelik.
 
Munroe said:
Just noticed this thread summarising the uses of supplements with relation to mdma, might be worth a read sikeadelik.
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Wow, pretty helpful stuff in that topic Munroe. Thanks! Also, before my terribly non euphoric expierence it should be noted that I had slept maybe 5 hours a day the two days prior to my roll.
 
I also take 2mg guanfacine at night. Should I stop this as well to achieve the maximum potential from the roll?
 
From what I can see there shouldn't be any interactions between guanfacine and MDMA or Adderall, no need to discontinue use of them
 
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