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After you detox and finish the withdrawals, can opiates ever be used for recreation?

Stay.Blazed.420

Stay.Blazed.420

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I'm currently detoxing as we speak, and i expect after 3 months of being sober from opiates I believe i will have overcome the addiction.

So my question is, will i ever be able to use opiates recreationally again, assuming that I don't binge on them, I just use them on a random weekend to get fucked up? Or will just a once or twice use swing me right back into addiction and withdrawals? Did i ruin opiates forever by becoming addicted, or at some point in the future will i be able to use them recreationally once in a while for a brief period of time before stopping again. (like it used to be)

Going through withdrawals taught me a lesson. I got myself in too deep with everyday use. Being dependent on it just to have interest in things like playing video games or watching tv. But once i'm over the hump, will opiates ever be able to have fun with again? I never plan on injecting either, only insufflation.
 
unlikely. some people are able to go back to chipping after a habit, but the majority will end up right back where they started.

I don't believe it is wise to think that 90 days clean means you have overcome your addiction.
 
Not a good idea. It's a common thought that people have while recovering, but it virutally never works out that way. That 'just one hit' turns into a full-blown relapse.
 
Stay.Blazed.420 said:
I'm currently detoxing as we speak, and i expect after 3 months of being sober from opiates I believe i will have overcome the addiction.

So my question is, will i ever be able to use opiates recreationally again, assuming that I don't binge on them, I just use them on a random weekend to get fucked up? Or will just a once or twice use swing me right back into addiction and withdrawals? Did i ruin opiates forever by becoming addicted, or at some point in the future will i be able to use them recreationally once in a while for a brief period of time before stopping again. (like it used to be)

Going through withdrawals taught me a lesson. I got myself in too deep with everyday use. Being dependent on it just to have interest in things like playing video games or watching tv. But once i'm over the hump, will opiates ever be able to have fun with again? I never plan on injecting either, only insufflation.
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Sounds to me you've already made your mind up regardless of what anyone tells you.

IMHO, don't EVER touch opiates again. You would be considered a high risk patient to most if not all addiction psychiatrists.
 
I doubt that you will be able to go back to occasional use after detoxing. You might be able to pull it off for a month or so, but more often than not, you will once again lose control and end up getting strung out again.

Lets say that 10% of addicts are able to go back to occasional use (I don't know the actual statistic, but wouldn't be surprised if that's very close). Do you want to take the chance of using again hoping to be in the 10% that can use occasionally, while risking the 90% possibility of becoming hooked again?

"The game is rigged, but you cannot lose if you do not to play." -Marla Daniels (The Wire)
 
Categorically, the answer is no. You will not be able to return to occasional use.

Blaze, detox is just the tip of the iceberg. What's going on? Is this something you want to do or are you doing it for someone or something else?
 
I'd say no period because it will never be like it used to, and as a junky I'd always go back to it thinking I could do it right, and I would end up proving myself I could by pushing it once again to the edge..even if I did it right, I'd be dead. No thx.
 
No never bro. Never ever. I have done it all im 9 years into the game of drugs and all I can say is after loosing it all time and time again and detox and programs and rehab all I can say is this. Opiets are the one drug you can never do just once in awhile. It won't ever work. Never
 
To play something of a devil's advocate...

If one returns, or say intends to return, after a prolonged period of abstinence, the best case senario is one maintains at a relatively low level or use. Which, given one's finances, is possible for some. However, the legality of the matter (unless with prescribed methadone, suboxone or subutex) will always be a major concern. No on wants to get arrested, and this will, unless something drastic happens with one's country's drug laws, always be a big issue regarding use. Of course, given this course of action over time, years say, one's tolerance could be built up where detox would be necessary to continue recreational use on a practical level. Even with tolerance reducing agents, detox will be inevatable.

Maybe other want to chip in on the downsides and negative consequences of maintaining a steady habit (assuming finances are not an issue)? Opioids seem to be pretty forgiving on their own - by which I mean to say it's the lifestyle of using opioids (such as injecting re: blood born diseases) that kills, not necessarily simply using the drug (except, or course, in the case of overdose). If a steady, regular habit were achieved, and the only concerns were legal, could no stability be maintained in one's life generally speaking? Of course, one would remain demonized. One would have to worry about arrest or overdose, and money would still be an issue, but... Other than that, there seem to have been historically speaking some successful junkies.

Then again, I guess those risk factors are enough to keep a "rational" being away from opioids. Especially after experiencing full blown addiction...
 
In my opinion, the problem with chipping is that...well...let's say that you start using twice a week. And you do this for a while, successfully spacing it out enough to avoid physical WD. All along, you're thinking to yourself sure, these other 5 days kinda suck, but at least it's not withdrawal.... And no, it's not physical withdrawal, but it's a psychological lust for opiates that never leaves your mind. It's being separated from your one true love, and you feel incomplete until you're reunited come that circled day on the calendar. Each week you go through of your chipper schedule, those 5 days on which you don't use start to suck more and more. And no, it still might not suck like WD, but it gets to those point where it's pretty god damn bad in its own way.

When you're using all-day, everyday, you don't have 5 days each week to sit around and think about how badly you want it to be an "opiate day." This is something that you only really see the downfalls of when you try the chipper thing. It's easy enough to not use 5 days a week, but it's impossible to not think about it all day, everyday for all 7 if you're using on some of them.

Opiate addiction is no way to live, and trying to tightrope some chipping schedule isn't much better. You think that only using once a week is going to help you keep interested in tv and video games, but come on...all you're going to be doing is fantasizing about that coming day. That romantic lust for opiates is really strong, and it's still as much there even if you factor out the physical addiction. I know that it fucking sucks to think about going through the rest of your life without that beautiful nothingness, but it does get easier over time and you can do it. The beginning is the hardest part.
 
instead of makiing a new thread i thought i'd ask this here.

if i do a CWE with (supposed) 10mg oxycocet's then can i inject that and use that to taper off of? I can get access to a fuckload of percocets.
 
IME, I quit for gees what? 2 yrs almost. Anyway, in Dec I messed up my ankle pretty bad. Got oxy 10's, popped like 5, old habits, barely touched me :/
I think once we've abused them, there's no goin back unfortunately. The tolerance seems to come right back on your first dose.
And as RedLeader said, it's so true about the mental thinkin and lust kickin in. I was right back where I left off in a matter of a day! Nothin mattered but gettin the oxy in me. I wasn't really gettin high but it was a mental thing, I HAD to have 'em!
I've quit again, not by choice, and it sucks ass. I'm doin the whole fuckin wd thing again.
I'm moody and I feel like I have got to somehow get the hell outta my own mind/body! Don't put yourself thru it. Your tolerance will be there but so will your lust.
 
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I seem to have stabilized my habit.. I used to be a horrible dope fiend, as bad as any of the posters here... now I use codeine about once a week. So, while I haven't back to full blown addict status, I do still use opiates semi-regularly.

Everyone has different experiences... perhaps the reason I haven't gone back yet is cuz I can't really... I haven't been able to find good dope around here.
 
I believe you can IF you don't have access to a steady, reliable supply. I'm 43, a professional, have just moved to a new place and have no friends here. My Dr. just wrote me a prescription for 30 Vicodin so I have a few days of popping pills but then it's over. There's no way- or at least no means I'm willing to employ- to get more. It's self-limiting.

That said, if I had a reliable supply there's no way I could hold my habit to once in a while. Sure- it would start out that way- I'd just take some percs on the weekends and be able to stay away during the week. But then my birthday would come up or a big concert would come to town and I'd want to get some pills for that- then I'd start getting them on Wednesdays and then....well....we know how it goes then..
 
Stay.Blazed.420 said:
instead of makiing a new thread i thought i'd ask this here.

if i do a CWE with (supposed) 10mg oxycocet's then can i inject that and use that to taper off of? I can get access to a fuckload of percocets.
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You can't inject CWE solution because there is still some acetaminophen in the solution.

Tapering using the IV route is not that efficient. The oral ROA lasts a lot longer, and the oral BA of oxycodone is very high, so take it orally.

The more questions you ask, the clearer it is that you cannot use occasionally after you detox. When are you detoxing by the way? You said that you were taking your dads last OxyContin the other day, and now you are talking about getting a "fuckload" of percocets. You don't seem to have the self control to successfully taper on your own, so I urge you to check yourself into a detox and rehab. At least at a detox facility they can check you out to make sure you didn't do any damage to yourself from IVing all those pills like you were concerned about here. All the threads that you have been starting make detox seem like a really good idea.
 
Stay.Blazed.420 said:
I'm currently detoxing as we speak, and i expect after 3 months of being sober from opiates I believe i will have overcome the addiction.

So my question is, will i ever be able to use opiates recreationally again, assuming that I don't binge on them, I just use them on a random weekend to get fucked up? Or will just a once or twice use swing me right back into addiction and withdrawals? Did i ruin opiates forever by becoming addicted, or at some point in the future will i be able to use them recreationally once in a while for a brief period of time before stopping again. (like it used to be)

Going through withdrawals taught me a lesson. I got myself in too deep with everyday use. Being dependent on it just to have interest in things like playing video games or watching tv. But once i'm over the hump, will opiates ever be able to have fun with again? I never plan on injecting either, only insufflation.
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I think after 90 days of being clean that assuming you might be able to use is normal... thats the addiction talking...and thats when people relapse. Remember that although you haven't been physically using for the last 90 days, your addiction has been maturing as if you never stopped. To go back now, it would be as if you never stopped... do you want that? I was addicted to H for 4 years, and have now been clean for 2 1/2... I would still never consider chipping, its not worth losing everything I have gained... don't allow yourself to be fooled... once you have used IV, no other ROA will ever really satisfy you, any IV addict would acknowledge that the addiction is to the needle and the process just as much as the drugs... IMO once you are an addict you are always an addict, and recreational use is not an option.
 
its only cuz my dad has tons of percs and offeres them to me. He hasnt been lately tho so thats good. im detoxing just fine, tryin to stay positive!

Detox would just make me what to blow my brains out. i gotta do it in the comfort of my own home
 
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